You most likely already know about this! The parent company was Monsanto (a/k/a "the Devil") that sold to Bayer. Monsanto is killing everyone with all that GMO crap!Interesting will definitely Google that.
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Our Ongoing Grows
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Is old info there,,,,cept, that vid that didn't post about Jack kicking my ass last/////this night,,,,,,,,,,,
Scotts is the exclusive distributor/marketer for Roundup and they've been purchasing up a bunch of small companies for years and incorporating them into their own brands. Kinda sucks that the big guys end up owning everything, but I guess if I was a smaller guy that built a successful company, it would be tough to turn down the money they get for selling. 
ilikemsticky
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I figured you would end growing some of those p dogs looks good woody always like looking in on your garden have a good one bud!Sorry I ain't been on much... Hit one of them slumps.
@45thdegreeMP3 what do ya got?. I kind of have a Good plan right now,,, but is always room to try something else...
I have a gift from @OG1969 of some of that Grassfire OG that looked off the carts. Well I have 2 of them that just recovered from my first topping.. They did get alittle leggy fighting for light in my veg tent. But still really workable.. They are reg seeds tho. Which is good for a mother plant.. One thing about fem seeds,, they do have hermie in them. Just that the female pollen is from plants that weren't stressed into hermie mode,, like heat, or white light at night.. It's always best to use regular seeds if you want good breeding stock or even a mother plant..
Sucks when you really don't much to post... And what I have now isn't all that far in. I'm going to be posting pics as something comes out. But right now they are half way in.
I hate rouge pollen... I found afew seeds on that Chem plant.. Damnit... I don't see any seed on others,, but. I did clean the room 'pretty good'.And the seeds were only on the bottom buds,, well some of them. Bet it blew up from the floor. That shit can be anywhere,, from the dust on my fan blades, or the light rails, to the ceiling/floor,, and everywhere in between...... Kind of the bad thing about growing outside say a tent that is easy to clean out.
But I did grab one out because I know someone is interested in it. This is a Purple Dog gifted to me from @lazyfish , I'm pretty sure it was gifted to him from another on here...... But here's what she is.. I worked really hard and kept the canopy pretty level in fear of the unkown as far as height issue. But still is a big plant. All I got in there are larger than what I'm used to growing, I only have 5 plants in there, and they fill the room 60%;
I'm going to be cutting clones tonight/tomarrow... Some Puppies, a Strawberry amnesia, Gelato, and Knockout. If anyone wanting one of these,, let me know soon. I also have a Sage N Sour big enough... It was good pot. Small buds tho and mine had been pollinated. Anytime you get pollinated,, you'll never hit full potential of it's capabilities.
Let me back up,, you can still grow good sensie with seed, if you only pollinate acouple flowers, over open pollination. We, least I like to grow sinsemilla which is the Sex Staved Goddess of the pot world.......
Well, that's about it from here.. Hope all's doing well out there.. i sure have alot of catching up. But the few peaks I've done lately,,, seem some hella buddage to look at...........
Keepem Green
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It's strange @Mr. Krip , is alot of 'small' batch products coming on the market. Around here,,, the PNW area, tons. Tons of alot of the grow market for foods and even lights and hoods. My local,, well is 3 or 4 in a mile or two of here,, that market fert's of their own mix...... Do they work?????????????? But that formula of GH Flora series has been the standard, for years... All them big float systems, boating leaf lettuces across a reservoir food tank, are as a rule grown in it...
But that lawsuit is over weed killer... We all know that kind of shit causes cancer, least it should as a weed killer???????? Kind of like malathion weed killer........... The stuff they sprayed over the ditch banks Monday mornings and Thursdays mornings, back home to kill mosquitoes. I remember seeing crop dusters hitting local ditches back in the early 70's. Least back in Arkansas,,, and runoff polluted all the local bayous, to any forms of commercial fishing,,, trotlines and tramble nets. I use to do pretty good on trotlines in them rivers for flathead cats up to 45 lbs. At 2 bucks a pound,,, bought beer/gas and shotgun shells......
After that I had to go fish the real rivers,,, Arkansas/Mississippi Rivers... Lots more deep swift work then I care to partake in.......... But massive Blue Channel Cats up to 60 pounds..... And BIG ass turtles...............
Well @ilikemsticky,,, seems @lazyfish is doing well with it's sister............. Longer flower than like,,, but what is a week or two really???????? Unless your a calendar? Kind of win win, least for me,, he still has it in his gardens if it is a winner,,, I didn't grab a cut myself...
I'm really ready to do a grow of Puppies only next grow......... But I never do what I plan anyways........... But I do NEED at least a half the room for Puppies... Even as the market in herb sales bottoms out over my ways,, the demand for a Puppy hasn't dropped... Just the supply has of good product... Oh well..
I'm outta here.... Enjoy
But that lawsuit is over weed killer... We all know that kind of shit causes cancer, least it should as a weed killer???????? Kind of like malathion weed killer........... The stuff they sprayed over the ditch banks Monday mornings and Thursdays mornings, back home to kill mosquitoes. I remember seeing crop dusters hitting local ditches back in the early 70's. Least back in Arkansas,,, and runoff polluted all the local bayous, to any forms of commercial fishing,,, trotlines and tramble nets. I use to do pretty good on trotlines in them rivers for flathead cats up to 45 lbs. At 2 bucks a pound,,, bought beer/gas and shotgun shells......
After that I had to go fish the real rivers,,, Arkansas/Mississippi Rivers... Lots more deep swift work then I care to partake in.......... But massive Blue Channel Cats up to 60 pounds..... And BIG ass turtles...............
Well @ilikemsticky,,, seems @lazyfish is doing well with it's sister............. Longer flower than like,,, but what is a week or two really???????? Unless your a calendar? Kind of win win, least for me,, he still has it in his gardens if it is a winner,,, I didn't grab a cut myself...
I'm really ready to do a grow of Puppies only next grow......... But I never do what I plan anyways........... But I do NEED at least a half the room for Puppies... Even as the market in herb sales bottoms out over my ways,, the demand for a Puppy hasn't dropped... Just the supply has of good product... Oh well..
I'm outta here.... Enjoy
ilikemsticky
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I got a little taste of your puppy from lazy and I have to say its a tasty one and potent to Im thinking its some nice evening smoke when your done for the day of course a cocktail goes well with that!
GH makes a great line of nutes for hydro and I started hydro with GH. They're also well-suited for growers into the "Lucas Formula" which uses ONLY the Micro & Bloom nutes (NO Grow formula!) through the entire growth cycle - just mixed at different ratios than if you were also using grow.
Skybound
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Are you getting the same Puppies Woody's doing? That is one pretty and super frosty plant, though it doesn't look like a yielder to me.
Do the fert stores sell salts, or just liquid ferts? I grew with GH for years, and though I got fairly good results, I found my ability to treat any imbalance at all was boiled down only adding more water to nutes or less. If you can get your hands on the salts though, you have WAY more control of all the major elements and that is only lessened with the trace elements. Aint gonna lie, for me, I'm still dialing in my regimen, but at least I have the ability to effectively do that. My only hope now that I'm transitioning to PC, is that the feed needs are similar to her cousin Cheese (Triple Cheese to be exact).
IMO, salts are where it's at, but even if using liquid ferts, you can still augment their feed chart using Hydro Buddy.
Edit - My bad Woody, I thought I was on Weaslecracker's journal for some reason. Duh, you're already growing puppies, lol.
Do the fert stores sell salts, or just liquid ferts? I grew with GH for years, and though I got fairly good results, I found my ability to treat any imbalance at all was boiled down only adding more water to nutes or less. If you can get your hands on the salts though, you have WAY more control of all the major elements and that is only lessened with the trace elements. Aint gonna lie, for me, I'm still dialing in my regimen, but at least I have the ability to effectively do that. My only hope now that I'm transitioning to PC, is that the feed needs are similar to her cousin Cheese (Triple Cheese to be exact).
IMO, salts are where it's at, but even if using liquid ferts, you can still augment their feed chart using Hydro Buddy.
Edit - My bad Woody, I thought I was on Weaslecracker's journal for some reason. Duh, you're already growing puppies, lol.
GH makes a great line of nutes for hydro and I started hydro with GH. They're also well-suited for growers into the "Lucas Formula" which uses ONLY the Micro & Bloom nutes (NO Grow formula!) through the entire growth cycle - just mixed at different ratios than if you were also using grow.
I found somebody who was saying something bout those ratios and no extra N. I believe the ratio was two parts Micro to 3 parts bloom, and 0.75 tsp/ gln Cal Mag. The coco is charged with CalMag and Epsom.
Actually, the Lucas Formula uses a 2:1 ratio. Here's a good article and the image is a good reference:
Outstanding!!!! I didn't know there was a proper name for that...
lazyfish
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@Morglie you see this guy? WTF, wood? making us look bad! lol. Dude I have to give you the Purple pheno.... it's a beauty.Sorry I ain't been on much... Hit one of them slumps.
@45thdegreeMP3 what do ya got?. I kind of have a Good plan right now,,, but is always room to try something else...
I have a gift from @OG1969 of some of that Grassfire OG that looked off the carts. Well I have 2 of them that just recovered from my first topping.. They did get alittle leggy fighting for light in my veg tent. But still really workable.. They are reg seeds tho. Which is good for a mother plant.. One thing about fem seeds,, they do have hermie in them. Just that the female pollen is from plants that weren't stressed into hermie mode,, like heat, or white light at night.. It's always best to use regular seeds if you want good breeding stock or even a mother plant..
Sucks when you really don't much to post... And what I have now isn't all that far in. I'm going to be posting pics as something comes out. But right now they are half way in.
I hate rouge pollen... I found afew seeds on that Chem plant.. Damnit... I don't see any seed on others,, but. I did clean the room 'pretty good'.And the seeds were only on the bottom buds,, well some of them. Bet it blew up from the floor. That shit can be anywhere,, from the dust on my fan blades, or the light rails, to the ceiling/floor,, and everywhere in between...... Kind of the bad thing about growing outside say a tent that is easy to clean out.
But I did grab one out because I know someone is interested in it. This is a Purple Dog gifted to me from @lazyfish , I'm pretty sure it was gifted to him from another on here...... But here's what she is.. I worked really hard and kept the canopy pretty level in fear of the unkown as far as height issue. But still is a big plant. All I got in there are larger than what I'm used to growing, I only have 5 plants in there, and they fill the room 60%;
I'm going to be cutting clones tonight/tomarrow... Some Puppies, a Strawberry amnesia, Gelato, and Knockout. If anyone wanting one of these,, let me know soon. I also have a Sage N Sour big enough... It was good pot. Small buds tho and mine had been pollinated. Anytime you get pollinated,, you'll never hit full potential of it's capabilities.
Let me back up,, you can still grow good sensie with seed, if you only pollinate acouple flowers, over open pollination. We, least I like to grow sinsemilla which is the Sex Staved Goddess of the pot world.......
Well, that's about it from here.. Hope all's doing well out there.. i sure have alot of catching up. But the few peaks I've done lately,,, seem some hella buddage to look at...........
Keepem Green
Morglie
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Thanks for the pictures. She's looking very happy. What size of pot are you trying your Purple Dawg in?Sorry I ain't been on much... Hit one of them slumps.
@45thdegreeMP3 what do ya got?. I kind of have a Good plan right now,,, but is always room to try something else...
I have a gift from @OG1969 of some of that Grassfire OG that looked off the carts. Well I have 2 of them that just recovered from my first topping.. They did get alittle leggy fighting for light in my veg tent. But still really workable.. They are reg seeds tho. Which is good for a mother plant.. One thing about fem seeds,, they do have hermie in them. Just that the female pollen is from plants that weren't stressed into hermie mode,, like heat, or white light at night.. It's always best to use regular seeds if you want good breeding stock or even a mother plant..
Sucks when you really don't much to post... And what I have now isn't all that far in. I'm going to be posting pics as something comes out. But right now they are half way in.
I hate rouge pollen... I found afew seeds on that Chem plant.. Damnit... I don't see any seed on others,, but. I did clean the room 'pretty good'.And the seeds were only on the bottom buds,, well some of them. Bet it blew up from the floor. That shit can be anywhere,, from the dust on my fan blades, or the light rails, to the ceiling/floor,, and everywhere in between...... Kind of the bad thing about growing outside say a tent that is easy to clean out.
But I did grab one out because I know someone is interested in it. This is a Purple Dog gifted to me from @lazyfish , I'm pretty sure it was gifted to him from another on here...... But here's what she is.. I worked really hard and kept the canopy pretty level in fear of the unkown as far as height issue. But still is a big plant. All I got in there are larger than what I'm used to growing, I only have 5 plants in there, and they fill the room 60%;
I'm going to be cutting clones tonight/tomarrow... Some Puppies, a Strawberry amnesia, Gelato, and Knockout. If anyone wanting one of these,, let me know soon. I also have a Sage N Sour big enough... It was good pot. Small buds tho and mine had been pollinated. Anytime you get pollinated,, you'll never hit full potential of it's capabilities.
Let me back up,, you can still grow good sensie with seed, if you only pollinate acouple flowers, over open pollination. We, least I like to grow sinsemilla which is the Sex Staved Goddess of the pot world.......
Well, that's about it from here.. Hope all's doing well out there.. i sure have alot of catching up. But the few peaks I've done lately,,, seem some hella buddage to look at...........
Keepem Green
Hi norcali
Tou have some beauties on your hands
Cheer up
Tou have some beauties on your hands
Cheer up
Looking good there Woody. Getting gun shy on the seeded weeds there buddy. I take pics to look for nanners and male plants and bugs. I can't look under the lights very long and I miss shit. Take a pic and I can look close take my time find the fvcks that need to be found.
You got this.
You Chem cross picture of health. That's what you do. It's gonna work out.
I've had plants chems too thro a few male flowers down low. I always get down on the hands and knees and crawl around looking for them with trimmers in 1 hand and a torch in the other. lol They are sneaky bastards.
Monsanto owns Scotts and is now partners with Bayer, they sold the roundup to Scotts and did a kinda sorta merger along with Bayer to become "partners" in crime.
What Monsanto is doing is trying to get into the Green Rush and take over cannabis with the help of Scotts. Since Monsanto has a bad name (rightly so) they want to clean up their image a little. Scary times, all they do is make everyone look bad. They are a VERY VERY LARGE corporation with a long reach all around the world. They are too big, an example of why there are anti-trust laws on the books. How can a farmer go up against that large of a company?
It's marketing bull shit. Be careful and watch what Scott's is doing. They are buying up a lot of hardware and nutrient companies.
Monsanto will be working on the genetics. Of course it will all be GMO crap. I wouldn't be surprised if they make seeds you cannot clone (trademark infringement) and the seeds will be sterile.
Why I'm hanging onto my seed stash an bought up a lot of reg seeds and some old landrace gear too. I saw this bull crap coming. After these corporations get their show together then they report back to congress and give them the thumbs up to change the laws. I'm gonna bet its in the best interests of politicians and corporations.
I always said it wasn't the cops I worry about but will be corporate thugs chasing down the little guys/mom and pop growers/farmers. They already have a model for it with corn and soybeans. To hell with health, lets burn food for fuel instead of feeding people a proper diet. It's all about money and that means all about yield and forget about quality.
Sorry for the rant. My bad.
Please spend your money wisely and try not to fund these turds and VOTE.
You got this.
You Chem cross picture of health. That's what you do. It's gonna work out.
I've had plants chems too thro a few male flowers down low. I always get down on the hands and knees and crawl around looking for them with trimmers in 1 hand and a torch in the other. lol They are sneaky bastards.
Monsanto owns Scotts and is now partners with Bayer, they sold the roundup to Scotts and did a kinda sorta merger along with Bayer to become "partners" in crime.
What Monsanto is doing is trying to get into the Green Rush and take over cannabis with the help of Scotts. Since Monsanto has a bad name (rightly so) they want to clean up their image a little. Scary times, all they do is make everyone look bad. They are a VERY VERY LARGE corporation with a long reach all around the world. They are too big, an example of why there are anti-trust laws on the books. How can a farmer go up against that large of a company?
It's marketing bull shit. Be careful and watch what Scott's is doing. They are buying up a lot of hardware and nutrient companies.
Monsanto will be working on the genetics. Of course it will all be GMO crap. I wouldn't be surprised if they make seeds you cannot clone (trademark infringement) and the seeds will be sterile.
Why I'm hanging onto my seed stash an bought up a lot of reg seeds and some old landrace gear too. I saw this bull crap coming. After these corporations get their show together then they report back to congress and give them the thumbs up to change the laws. I'm gonna bet its in the best interests of politicians and corporations.
I always said it wasn't the cops I worry about but will be corporate thugs chasing down the little guys/mom and pop growers/farmers. They already have a model for it with corn and soybeans. To hell with health, lets burn food for fuel instead of feeding people a proper diet. It's all about money and that means all about yield and forget about quality.
Sorry for the rant. My bad.
Please spend your money wisely and try not to fund these turds and VOTE.
dynamo1
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I hope fully Montesano will get theirs, major lawsuits are on the horizons, Glycosate the major ingredient in roundup has proven cancerous despite their lies and deception, increases in autism directly matches increases in roundup usage. 
ilikemsticky
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that's ok rant on bob your rite im saving seeds to and making seeds I have enough to last the rest of my life!
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Mister BBrown,,,,It's ok to rant here,, hell I do more than my share...
But that round up shit,, we all have to realize roundup is a weed killer.... And we should all know it's toxic? It's listed as a poison. Let's not go back where we made monkeys smoke 10,000 cigs a day to say it causes cancer? That much smoking of weed will cause cancer.... I think we all should know not to bathe in the shit? Least I hope... I'm the most careless fool in the whole about using toxic shit without proper protection.. I dunked my hands in paint thinners and hot thinners,, the kinds for urethanes and epoxy all my life. And even did more than one abatement of asbestos without 'proper' attire......
As for GMO,, I'm not fully up on all that... I know we been GMO'ing plants since we were able too??????? Even if thru natural selection??????
I could be way off... Most of the time I am..... Genetically Modifying could be a good thing??????????? ...... I myself right 'now' don't understand what they are actually doing?????? I see they are in the manufacture of seed really heavy....... But being a country boy',, I see and have seen special hand-picked strains breed into others for a better crop for your field crops.
Around here the market is in the air. I hear from a 'friend' who is in the larger cannabis markets around here that some bigger tobacco companies have made bids on the top dispensaries around Oregon? That's going to happen.... Once legal,, marijuana cultivation on the Mom and Pop's type for any profit will be like brewing your own beer???
But like trademarking,,,, there is going to be a way to sterilize seeds. Kind of like they o with poppyseeds.... But even then some grow into pretty poppies.... Buy a container of Poppy Seeds off the shelf... Try germinating them in a warm paper towel like a pot seed,,,, you will find some viable if reasonably fresh.........
BTW @Morglie I got them in 7 gallon pots......
But that round up shit,, we all have to realize roundup is a weed killer.... And we should all know it's toxic? It's listed as a poison. Let's not go back where we made monkeys smoke 10,000 cigs a day to say it causes cancer? That much smoking of weed will cause cancer.... I think we all should know not to bathe in the shit? Least I hope... I'm the most careless fool in the whole about using toxic shit without proper protection.. I dunked my hands in paint thinners and hot thinners,, the kinds for urethanes and epoxy all my life. And even did more than one abatement of asbestos without 'proper' attire......
As for GMO,, I'm not fully up on all that... I know we been GMO'ing plants since we were able too??????? Even if thru natural selection??????
I could be way off... Most of the time I am..... Genetically Modifying could be a good thing??????????? ...... I myself right 'now' don't understand what they are actually doing?????? I see they are in the manufacture of seed really heavy....... But being a country boy',, I see and have seen special hand-picked strains breed into others for a better crop for your field crops.
Around here the market is in the air. I hear from a 'friend' who is in the larger cannabis markets around here that some bigger tobacco companies have made bids on the top dispensaries around Oregon? That's going to happen.... Once legal,, marijuana cultivation on the Mom and Pop's type for any profit will be like brewing your own beer???
But like trademarking,,,, there is going to be a way to sterilize seeds. Kind of like they o with poppyseeds.... But even then some grow into pretty poppies.... Buy a container of Poppy Seeds off the shelf... Try germinating them in a warm paper towel like a pot seed,,,, you will find some viable if reasonably fresh.........
BTW @Morglie I got them in 7 gallon pots......
The type of genetic modification they're doing fall into TWO categories:
1) They create "Roundup-Ready" crops that allows the plants to deal with heavy applications of the Roundup weed killer without causing damage to the plant. While it doesn't damage the plants, it puts tons of glyphosates in our food crops.
2) They create seeds that produce their OWN insecticides, to it kills all the insects that try to eat the crops, but, supposedly, not enough concentration to kill us. Even if that was correct, they feed those crops to livestock that we eat and the livestock concentrates those substances since they can't detox them.
That doesn't even consider how Monsanto keeps all their seeds proprietary. If someone is trying to grow organic and his neighbor is using Monsanto's seed stock, the neighbors stock can pollentate the organic grow, which is bad enough, but then Monsanto will sue the organic grower for having Monsanto genetics they didn't pay for!
Monsanto is probably as close to an "evil" company as they get, IMHO!
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I'll have to read up there Mister K... All in due time.. Just feeling we brang about things like corn and even good strains of weeds with plants we have altered to fit into our needs????? Now I'm talking out my ass,,, not knowing shit............ I'll have to read abit one night I ain't drunk... Is that possible????????
Hey least I did afew cuts............ Most are small wimpy ass secondary cuts from that 'Monster' Cropped Puppy I got......... But I did grab afew off acouple others,, Knockout and the Strawberry Amnesia and the Puppies????? Thought I'd show my cloner and the board.... I label the holes with a number with a paint pen and a dry erase board which is outlined with permeate marker.
Hey least I did afew cuts............ Most are small wimpy ass secondary cuts from that 'Monster' Cropped Puppy I got......... But I did grab afew off acouple others,, Knockout and the Strawberry Amnesia and the Puppies????? Thought I'd show my cloner and the board.... I label the holes with a number with a paint pen and a dry erase board which is outlined with permeate marker.
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