Optic foliar switch
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It is available in the UK and US. It was previously banned because it contained prohibited chemicals. Apparently, they removed the offending chemicals. I don't know that I'd trust them, since they had no regard for our safety the first time, and failed to list the chemicals. I'm not a big fan of spraying any chemicals on budding plants.
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Sorry, no I don't. My take on it is if you're getting hermies, you are either stressing the plants somehow, or it's just bad genetics. Try another seed supplier.
If you look label it’s like a PK booster with 0.02 % phosphate and 2.0 % potassium.
this emphatically
and this as well. it won't hurt but won't do anything unless it's got a secret sauce they don't want you to know about.
Great point Bluter - true that….
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Not aware of a chem to treat or prevent hermies, there may be one but not familiar with it.
if you are having repeat hermies then something else is going on
what strain are you growing?
was it started from seed or from clone?
where did the seeds come from?
if you are having repeat hermies then something else is going on
what strain are you growing?
was it started from seed or from clone?
where did the seeds come from?
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Problem occured after defoliation, I m trying some new strain, they were shocked, but whenever that happened, optic foliar switch solved my problem....,but now OF switch is banned in Europe...and problem can't bi solved so easily, so entire crop will be with fucked with seeds
wow cool but yeah that sucks.
one wouldn’t think defol would shock them to the point of hermie…. but if you say it works as preventative then I’m cool with that too.
Think I would make further inquires about banned ingredients of the old version….
do you know what’s up @Phytoplankton
one wouldn’t think defol would shock them to the point of hermie…. but if you say it works as preventative then I’m cool with that too.
Think I would make further inquires about banned ingredients of the old version….
do you know what’s up @Phytoplankton
The "Secret Sauce" in Optical Foliar Switch is ethylene, it's a gas produced by ripening fruit. You may be able to acheive the same thing by placing ripening apples or pears underneath your plant for several days or a week. Might have to tent the plant to get optimum results. Still, if you're consistently getting hermies, you've got other issues, either in growing or the seeds themselves. I have used ripening fruit to "encourage" a bromeliad to flower, but in most plants it does the opposite. Here are some effects of Ethylene:
The effect of ethylene gas upon fruit is a resulting change in texture (softening), color, and other processes. Thought of as an aging hormone, ethylene gas not only influences the ripening of fruit but may also cause plants to die, generally occurring when the plant is damaged in some manner. Other effects of ethylene gas are loss of chlorophyll, abortion of plant foliage and stems, shortening of stems, and bending of the stems (epinasty). Ethylene gas can be either a good guy when used to hasten ripening of fruit or a bad guy when it yellows vegetables, damages buds, or causes abscission in ornamental specimens. Further Information on Ethylene Gas. As a plant messenger that signals the plant’s next move, ethylene gas can be used to trick the plant into ripening its fruits and vegetables earlier. In commercial environments, farmers use liquid products that are introduced pre-harvest. The consumer may do this at home by simply placing the fruit or vegetable in question inside a paper bag, like a tomato. This will concentrate the ethylene gas inside the bag, allowing the fruit to ripen more quickly. Do not use a plastic bag, which will trap moisture and may backfire on you, causing the fruit to rot.
The effect of ethylene gas upon fruit is a resulting change in texture (softening), color, and other processes. Thought of as an aging hormone, ethylene gas not only influences the ripening of fruit but may also cause plants to die, generally occurring when the plant is damaged in some manner. Other effects of ethylene gas are loss of chlorophyll, abortion of plant foliage and stems, shortening of stems, and bending of the stems (epinasty). Ethylene gas can be either a good guy when used to hasten ripening of fruit or a bad guy when it yellows vegetables, damages buds, or causes abscission in ornamental specimens. Further Information on Ethylene Gas. As a plant messenger that signals the plant’s next move, ethylene gas can be used to trick the plant into ripening its fruits and vegetables earlier. In commercial environments, farmers use liquid products that are introduced pre-harvest. The consumer may do this at home by simply placing the fruit or vegetable in question inside a paper bag, like a tomato. This will concentrate the ethylene gas inside the bag, allowing the fruit to ripen more quickly. Do not use a plastic bag, which will trap moisture and may backfire on you, causing the fruit to rot.
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I could be wrong again but think old school remedy for ethylene was neck tie of ripening bananas
Bannanas, apples and pears are the best ethylene producers.
Yep, bananas in particular
But anyway, back to the original point - I say don't bother fannying around, grow stable fems and if one screws up toss it and pop a different one
Confucius say 'Don't waste good effort correcting bad'
But anyway, back to the original point - I say don't bother fannying around, grow stable fems and if one screws up toss it and pop a different one
Confucius say 'Don't waste good effort correcting bad'
Yeah agree - I’m all about the fems… I do want to fiddle with breeding just to get my feet wet
To Beerma, if you’ve never tried the ripening bananas thing then that’s a cool thing to play around with…. plants get frisky….
To Beerma, if you’ve never tried the ripening bananas thing then that’s a cool thing to play around with…. plants get frisky….
Robbie714
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Grow regular seeds feminized are more likely to herm than regs like mentioned it’s the genetics order from Great Lakes genetics or Ethos.
Robbie714
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Grow regs that’s all I grow unless I get lazy I’ll pop up feminized or an auto from Brother Mendel’s they have good genetics if you want to grow an auto flower or photo. That’s where you want to get your seeds. They have a group on Facebook called Mendel’s. Check them out like mentioned it’s the genetics order from Mendel’s, or Ethos. there’s some good breeders out there or look a waffle up on Facebook. It’s easy to win seeds depending on the day. Good luck, man..
Robbie714
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OP how are you germinating your seeds? Are you sticking them in water for 24 to 36 hours and then putting them in a warm paper towel and then in a Ziploc bag and stick them somewhere in the dark, I actually put mine on my cable box which stays a little bit warm and I’ve been doing that since I started growing about 11 years ago, never had a problem with popping seeds, but it happens to the best of us usually it’s the genetics but not always. Try that germinating method I posted. I hope that helps you’ll get it. Happy Growing and Stay Medicated!
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