OldMedMan Goes Indoors Part 2

Closet Farmer said:
Just doing a Drive By! :circle-of-love:

126 strains. You can tell the economy is bad when us MMJ users collect seeds for future currency!!:lot-o-toke:

Just kidding!!:goof:
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ummmmmm....future insurance is closer to the truth
I hate closing time at Disneyland
 
Chopper said:
ummmmmm....future insurance is closer to the truth
I hate closing time at Disneyland
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Whats wrong with closing time at Disneyland! Thats when all the fireworks go off!! :cheertwo::circle-of-love:
 
Chopper said:
and you get tossed out
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Aww....So true, without Disneyland life would have no meaning.... We must stand together to make sure Disneyland never ever closes!! :passitleft:
 
Super Serious Question.....

When growing in soil just before harvest. How many days to you feed straight water? :hmmmm:

BTW..... Chopper and me would make a great comedy team!!! :laughtwo:
 
Closet Farmer said:
Super Serious Question.....

When growing in soil just before harvest. How many days to you feed straight water? :hmmmm:

BTW..... Chopper and me would make a great comedy team!!! :laughtwo:
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Simply put: The answer is, "2 weeks." It's up to you whether you flush the pots beforehand, but nothing but water for AT LEAST two weeks.
 
Closet Farmer said:
Super Serious Question.....

When growing in soil just before harvest. How many days to you feed straight water? :hmmmm:

BTW..... Chopper and me would make a great comedy team!!! :laughtwo:
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Hey Buddy! jandre2k3 answered that one for you.

Comedy team, I don't think so........:circle-of-love:
 
Jandre2k3 totally with you on that, 2 weeks closet....two weeks. However, i pose yet another question, what if grown totally organic nutes, you think the 2 week rule still applies, probably just to get a better taste down the road huh????
 
kola bear said:
Jandre2k3 totally with you on that, 2 weeks closet....two weeks. However, i pose yet another question, what if grown totally organic nutes, you think the 2 week rule still applies, probably just to get a better taste down the road huh????
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Hi kola bear. :surf:

That's a good question. I've only flushed my plants once. My taste buds are pretty much gone and I could not tell any difference. I also did grows with Osmacote Plus and you can't flush that at all. Jandre2k3 will probably know.:Namaste:
 
if you're using 100% organic nutes, you don't need to flush at all. flushing is to remove the chemicals from the plant. I don't ever flush my organic bud and it smokes smooth and burns completely white
 
OrganicTreees said:
if you're using 100% organic nutes, you don't need to flush at all. flushing is to remove the chemicals from the plant. I don't ever flush my organic bud and it smokes smooth and burns completely white
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Hey Thanks. :thumb:

Your exactly right, my friend. Thanks. :adore:
 
OldMedMan said:
Hi kola bear. :surf:

That's a good question. I've only flushed my plants once. My taste buds are pretty much gone and I could not tell any difference. I also did grows with Osmacote Plus and you can't flush that at all. Jandre2k3 will probably know.:Namaste:
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Osmocote is the little balls of fert slow release that come 2 ways, by Scott's . . . I believe. There is no flushing that one. There's an Osmocote that you can add to the soil, and once it's there, you're done, no flushing it. They were also making one, I don't know if they still do, that had the Osmocote in the potting medium, and, again, no flushing it. The plus side is that it is a slow release so the amount of ferts in the soil is minute so just water as normal and it does very little damage to the taste/smell.

OrganicTreees said:
if you're using 100% organic nutes, you don't need to flush at all. flushing is to remove the chemicals from the plant. I don't ever flush my organic bud and it smokes smooth and burns completely white
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I, back in the day, actually kept up the fish emulsion, and poop soup till the day of harvest, and swore NEVER do do that again. I had to throw into my fire, 12.5lbs of bud because it literally smelled like . . um . . poop! Had to clean that up, hehe. My neighbors asked my why I decided to burn cow chips in the back yard. I dunno what happened, but yes, in my experience there is a need to flush even the organics. At the very lest, stop giving the teas, soups, and emulsions the last week or so.
 
jandre2k3 said:
I back, in the day, actually kept up the fish emulsion, and poop soup till the day of harvest, and swore NEVER do do that again. I had to throw into my fire, 12.5lbs of bud because it literally smelled like . . um . . poop! Had to clean that up, hehe. My neighbors asked my why I decided to burn cow chips in the back yard. I dunno what happened, but yes, in my experience there is a need to flush even the organics. At the very lest, stop giving the teas, soups, and emulsions the last week or so.
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hmm thats interesting. I typically use my teas up until harvest, although I have a very lax feeding schedule anyway. I use teas once a week, sometimes once every 2 weeks towards the end.. I try to feed my plants everything they need from the soil itself so it takes what it needs and my bud always smells like pure bud. My last 2 weeks of flower, I'll only feed maybe once, and even then I'm cutting back the strength. I like to force the plant to eat as many of the fan leaves as possible, it always turns out to be a smoother smoke in the end
 
OrganicTreees said:
hmm thats interesting. I typically use my teas up until harvest, although I have a very lax feeding schedule anyway. I use teas once a week, sometimes once every 2 weeks towards the end.. I try to feed my plants everything they need from the soil itself so it takes what it needs and my bud always smells like pure bud. My last 2 weeks of flower, I'll only feed maybe once, and even then I'm cutting back the strength. I like to force the plant to eat as many of the fan leaves as possible, it always turns out to be a smoother smoke in the end
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And that would seem to fall in line with more of a flush. I was on a 5 day feeding with fish, and 2 days with weak poop soupon the "Constant weak vs. biweekly feeding" theory. the theory was still sort of young back then, and it just so fell that the last feeding with the poop soup was the day before the plants said they were ready to come down... Since then, in all my organic I scale back and just water the last 2 weeks. All the microbes are there and help to continue a small feeding of sorts and to keep the plants healthy, but I never did feed the last two weeks, which is sort of what you do as well.

I'm not in organics anymore for smoke, as my compost can't handle the volume of my li'l garden, and my grows, too. But I remember the lessons learned when I was.
 
jandre2k3 said:
And that would seem to fall in line with more of a flush. I was on a 5 day feeding with fish, and 2 days with weak poop soupon the "Constant weak vs. biweekly feeding" theory. the theory was still sort of young back then, and it just so fell that the last feeding with the poop soup was the day before the plants said they were ready to come down... Since then, in all my organic I scale back and just water the last 2 weeks. All the microbes are there and help to continue a small feeding of sorts and to keep the plants healthy, but I never did feed the last two weeks, which is sort of what you do as well.

I'm not in organics anymore for smoke, as my compost can't handle the volume of my li'l garden, and my grows, too. But I remember the lessons learned when I was.
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yeah i suppose you could call it a flush. When I think of flush, I think of pushing large amounts of water through the soil. The cool thing about organics is the food is always in the soil, but it used as the plant needs it. You feed your soil and your soil feeds your plant to the end. My plants get probably 70% of their food from the soil itself. I want to up that ratio though soon and start making it need nothing but water the entire cycle
 
OrganicTreees said:
yeah i suppose you could call it a flush. When I think of flush, I think of pushing large amounts of water through the soil. The cool thing about organics is the food is always in the soil, but it used as the plant needs it. You feed your soil and your soil feeds your plant to the end. My plants get probably 70% of their food from the soil itself. I want to up that ratio though soon and start making it need nothing but water the entire cycle
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"The Flush" as it is referred to when considering harvest time is not the same as a soil flush to remove an over-abundance of something to correct an imbalance. It is more flushing the plant itself, and forcing it to feed on foliage, rather than relying on root uptake. If all a plant gets at the roots is water, then the natural process of eating itself happens, and excess nutrients that might have built up within the plant are used up and foliage dies off as a result.

This is done for two purposes:
  1. To ease in cleaning the buds
  2. To remove excess chlorophyll from the plants

The first is obvious, if there's less foliage (Fan Leaves) there's less to clean up or trim off for the dry/cure process.

The second is a little less obvious, and is often missed. Has anyone ever tasted chlorophyll? It sort of tastes like a multivitamin dunked in saline solution, then in simple syrup (not maple syrup)... If there is an overabundance stored in the supporting structure of the buds, when vaporized and freed from the vegetable matter and inhaled, it can cause irritation, and a bitter taste. This, along with any other impurities that might be left in the plant without the flush cause an overall unhappy smoking experience.

Not all the chlorophyll will be removed, nor can it be from anything green. But, a reduction in the amount of such in comparison to the volume of vegetable matter can, in itself, create a more enjoyable smoke. Not to mention the plant using up any other available raw nutrients within the stems, and main trunk for the other life processes, that would otherwise transport to the buds as they dry.
 
OldMedMan said:
Hey Thanks. :thumb:

Your exactly right, my friend. Thanks. :adore:
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Yup.....no Douche.....But I only use organics.....I have a worm pit, for christsakes :) My dirt comes from a lemon grove where cows wander thru, and is baked sterile in a 55gal drum BBQer....no flush ever....so far. YOU should taste my SSOG.......I adhere to the Subcool school of dirt.....
:)
 
A Late Picture Update ....... Sorry.....Time Flies

Day 94 of Bloom for the Anastasia
Day 60 of Bloom for the Mekong High
Day 50 of Bloom for the Matanuska Tundra

Here's a new girl for the next grow. A gift from THsea.
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Anastasia

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Mekong High

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Matanuska Tunda

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