OG Kush & White Widow, Organic Living Soil, 614W LED

[StoneOtter]

Nope, used my CEEgar roller.
I used to roll them about that good back in the 70s and 80s but too lazy in my old age.
We take very easy slow tokes on it, quite smooth. Last for days.
Dry bud is pretty sticky icky as Living Organic Soil bud always is.

I like em fat like that. Nice and slow like you say. I use 100 mm? papers long ones anyway, all day tokers if you really want to elevate. The ceegar now, smooth sounding!

 

[Nunyabiz]

I like em fat like that. Nice and slow like you say. I use 100 mm? papers long ones anyway, all day tokers if you really want to elevate. The ceegar now, smooth sounding!

My regular joints are 110mm and the Cigar is 125mm.
I use the 3 foot rolls of organic Hemp paper and cut to the exact 125mm size.

 

[StoneOtter]

My regular joints are 110mm and the Cigar is 125mm.
I use the 3 foot rolls of organic Hemp paper and cut to the exact 125mm size.

Thought the paper looked RAW. Sweet it comes on a roll!

 

[Nunyabiz]

Thought the paper looked RAW. Sweet it comes on a roll!

Yep can make them as long or as short as you wish

 

[Bill284]

My regular joints are 110mm and the Cigar is 125mm.
I use the 3 foot rolls of organic Hemp paper and cut to the exact 125mm size.

Congrats on the Haul.
Great roll job.
I've lost that skill.
Take care my friend




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Keffka]

Just going to drop this here as a FYI.

If you have chosen to grow in soil then you should use the attributes your plant receives from that soil, such as the microbes, mycorrhazae, enzymes etc.
Using a basic bag soil even such as FFOF and you put 3 1/2 gallons in a 5 gallon plastic pot and then water with bottled nutrients to run off and then wait until its "Sahara dry" before watering again that is just plain wrong.

First you're doing two things roots hate the most, too wet for a day or two, then too dry for a day or three.
A very dry soil changes the ec, concentrates sodium and nutrients in the soil, kills off root tips and hairs and feeder roots.
You're just begging for problems.

If you want to grow in soil then go with LOS in large 20+ gallon fabric pots, using a Clackamas Coots or similar soil recipe that has lots of aeration.
Plant a cover crop for its many benefits, one of which helps drainage and uses excess water, add worms, also helps keep soil loose and airy.
Then you water EVERYDAY and never ever allow your soil to dry out, not even the top 1/4", you keep a nice thick mulch layer on top and these bright white healthy feeder roots will come to the surface of your soil.
Last few grows I've been watering just a bit everytime I walk into the grow room, just a cupful or so and I have microdoses of various things like coconut water, Fermented Plant Juice, sprouted seed tea of Alfalfa, Ferticell Algae etc. In the water.

The mycorrhazae will flourish and before the plant starts to flower will actually be larger than the plants own root system and feed the plant more than its own roots do.
None of that can happen when you flood poorly aerated soil in a small plastic pot and then wait a week plus for it to dry out bone dry to the point plant wilt, its insanity.

If you wish to use bottled nutrients or you just do not have the space for 20+ gallon pots then you should go with coco and again water EVERYDAY and never ever allow the medium or the roots to dry out.
Or of course could go hydro, needless to say you never let hydro get dry.
Which should prove the point that roots have absolutely zero problems growing in wet conditions because the problem is never the water, the problem is always lack of oxygen.

In a well aerated and constantly "moist" soil especially if you water with highly oxygenated water the roots grow like wildfire.
They stay in that perfect zone of growth 24/7.

Hydro is still much trickier than growing in a proper LOS, the microbes and enzymes in LOS help keep the pathogens away.
I've never seen anything but bright white roots in my pots.

This is exactly what I needed to see, and confirms my suspicions I severely under watered my seedlings. I’ve likely already under watered the transplant

I’ve added 25% perlite in my seedling mix and it’s a third of my soil mix. I figured I’d have to increase my watering. Do you water to runoff?

Edit: never mind, re read it lol.. Just make sure things are moist, got it.

 

[Nunyabiz]

This is exactly what I needed to see, and confirms my suspicions I severely under watered my seedlings. I’ve likely already under watered the transplant

I’ve added 25% perlite in my seedling mix and it’s a third of my soil mix. I figured I’d have to increase my watering. Do you water to runoff?

Edit: never mind, re read it lol.. Just make sure things are moist, got it.

Cool, yeah watering seems to be the big stickler for most growers starting out until they find what method works for them the best.
Most people have heard "don't overwater" so much that they're freaked out about watering and end up doing just as much damage by severe under watering.
Good luck in finding which method works for you.
Mine was Living Organic Soil.

 

[StoneOtter]

What's next Nunya, any picks?

 

[Nunyabiz]

What's next Nunya, any picks?

I am currently growing Alpine Star CBD again.
Just trying a little experiment of basically doing everything wrong and see what happens, if I can get a decent yield or not in spite of purposely doing shit I know is wrong just to make the grow a little more challenging.
I used seeds that I got from my last grow from a plant that went Hermaphrodite, got about a dozen seeds.
Put one plant in too small of a pot (10 gal)
Planted two plants in one 20 gal pot
Planted one correctly in a 20 gallon pot.
I topped them all 3x instead of doing LST, my first time topping plants.
I didn't use a SCROG just letting them grow au naturel.

They're doing decent on 3rd week of flower.
One plant did start to Hermaphrodite as fully expected using Hermaphrodite seeds, ive just picked the sacs as I see them.
The two plants in one pot are smaller as expected, as is the one plant in 10 gallon pot.
The single plant in 20 gallon pot grew like kudzu as expected.
I've only got about 40 buds instead my usual 50-60 so the trichome production will have to really shine in order to get my usual of 9.6oz per 20 gal pot but that remains to be seen yet.
The canopy is all over the place , PPFD is ranging between 750 to 1250 PPFD which should be fine.

 

[Nunyabiz]

Still cranking right along, about 5 weeks to go.
I had $20 in reward points i was going to lose pretty soon at Buildasoil if I didn't spend them so I figured I’d grab one of the Ecowitt moisture meters and temp/humidity monitor.
Seem to be working rather well.
Its wifi so I can check it on my phone from anywhere.
So far it has proven that my standard watering most everyday is keeping the soil between 29-35% moisture which is the perfect sweet spot.

 

[StoneOtter]

Still cranking right along, about 5 weeks to go.
I had $20 in reward points i was going to lose pretty soon at Buildasoil if I didn't spend them so I figured I’d grab one of the Ecowitt moisture meters and temp/humidity monitor.
Seem to be working rather well.
Its wifi so I can check it on my phone from anywhere.
So far it has proven that my standard watering most everyday is keeping the soil between 29-35% moisture which is the perfect sweet spot.

Cool tool even if it only tells you you're already doing it right!

I am currently growing Alpine Star CBD again.
Just trying a little experiment of basically doing everything wrong and see what happens, if I can get a decent yield or not in spite of purposely doing shit I know is wrong just to make the grow a little more challenging.
I used seeds that I got from my last grow from a plant that went Hermaphrodite, got about a dozen seeds.
Put one plant in too small of a pot (10 gal)
Planted two plants in one 20 gal pot
Planted one correctly in a 20 gallon pot.
I topped them all 3x instead of doing LST, my first time topping plants.
I didn't use a SCROG just letting them grow au naturel.

They're doing decent on 3rd week of flower.
One plant did start to Hermaphrodite as fully expected using Hermaphrodite seeds, ive just picked the sacs as I see them.
The two plants in one pot are smaller as expected, as is the one plant in 10 gallon pot.
The single plant in 20 gallon pot grew like kudzu as expected.
I've only got about 40 buds instead my usual 50-60 so the trichome production will have to really shine in order to get my usual of 9.6oz per 20 gal pot but that remains to be seen yet.
The canopy is all over the place , PPFD is ranging between 750 to 1250 PPFD which should be fine.

All wrong! Hah! That's a fun one, and not too shabby at all! Hoping for a strong finish!

 

[Nunyabiz]

Cool tool even if it only tells you you're already doing it right!

All wrong! Hah! That's a fun one, and not too shabby at all! Hoping for a strong finish!

Yep, just peace of mind.
I like it though, just a glance at my phone and I can tell if my lights are off or on, or if the humidifier is out of water and exactly when and how much water they need.

Even doing everything wrong it still looks like it'll be a decent grow.

 

[StoneOtter]

Yep, just peace of mind.
I like it though, just a glance at my phone and I can tell if my lights are off or on, or if the humidifier is out of water and exactly when and how much water they need.

Even doing everything wrong it still looks like it'll be a decent grow.

I like a little wyfi or bluetooth in the grow! Same happened with me. I hung a bt rh/temp sensor in one of them and it tells me lights on and off with temps. Found a bad timer a few weeks ago with it.

They look great for hermie plant offspring having bad parenting!

 

[Nunyabiz]

Little update.
Probably a couple weeks to go, starting to chunk up.
Lots of purple, red, orange and yellow colors coming in.
I top dressed with Craft Blend and a little Bokashi and watered in with oxygenated Buildabloom right as I flipped to flower.
Since then just a little probiotics and small amounts of Fermented Plant Juice of Alfalfa and some coconut water, PPM usually around 100-ish just enough so my oxygen emitters work properly.
Plants going through proper senescence, even though I purposely pretty much tried to phuck the grow up by doing all things I never would ordinarily do it still was an uneventful grow.
I did have to give the small pot a bit more amendments and watered it about twice as much as the larger pots but thats about the only thing I did.
Didn't SCROG, didn't LST just topped a few times.
Watered about 6x a week on large pots and probably 10x a week on the 10 gal.

They've been getting about an average of 1000 PPFD all through flower.
Temp 80-85⁰ lights on, 69-72⁰ lights off
Had humidity at 65-70% start of flower and have been dropping it slowly, now its at 50% and the next two weeks will drop to 40%.
No problems of any kind, no fungus gnats no nothing.
Just water and watch em grow.

 

[Stunger]

Beautiful with that soft candy like frosting!

 

[Nunyabiz]

Beautiful with that soft candy like frosting!

Thanks Stunger.
The entire downstairs in our house smells like fresh cut tangerine and honey, its very candy shop sweet smelling.

 

[Bill284]

Little update.
Probably a couple weeks to go, starting to chunk up.
Lots of purple, red, orange and yellow colors coming in.
I top dressed with Craft Blend and a little Bokashi and watered in with oxygenated Buildabloom right as I flipped to flower.
Since then just a little probiotics and small amounts of Fermented Plant Juice of Alfalfa and some coconut water, PPM usually around 100-ish just enough so my oxygen emitters work properly.
Plants going through proper senescence, even though I purposely pretty much tried to phuck the grow up by doing all things I never would ordinarily do it still was an uneventful grow.
I did have to give the small pot a bit more amendments and watered it about twice as much as the larger pots but thats about the only thing I did.
Didn't SCROG, didn't LST just topped a few times.
Watered about 6x a week on large pots and probably 10x a week on the 10 gal.

They've been getting about an average of 1000 PPFD all through flower.
Temp 80-85⁰ lights on, 69-72⁰ lights off
Had humidity at 65-70% start of flower and have been dropping it slowly, now its at 50% and the next two weeks will drop to 40%.
No problems of any kind, no fungus gnats no nothing.
Just water and watch em grow.

Just beautiful.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

 

[Nunyabiz]

Just beautiful.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

Thanks Bill

 

[Nunyabiz]

Finished harvest today.
8.9 oz center pot 20 gal
8.25 oz right pot 20 gal
5.1 oz 10 gal

Right around 22 ounces

Thats estimated dry (60% humidity) weight based on 80% water and stems loss, its usually more like 77-79% loss so will probably be slightly higher.
Better than I thought it was going to be considering I did everything wrong, no LST no SCROG, etc.
Fed the soil very little really.
coconut water, Aloe Vera, Fermented Plant Juice of Alfalfa and Insect Frass.
a probiotic made from Kefir.
Little Bokashi and some Craft Blend And some volcanic tuff.
Chop and drop cover crop.


Faded nicely, lots of dark purple, bright kind of a strawberry color, yellows.
Extremely gooey and very strong sweet smell.

 

[Stunger]

Faded nicely, lots of dark purple, bright kind of a strawberry color, yellows.
Extremely gooey and very strong sweet smell.

Wow, that looks so frosty and really beautiful!