New Moon Over Guawi: A High Brix Journey

For sure, as long as I get my Money Back not a problem but will have to resort to the
20 each from my local hydro guy.

I finally got a response from The manufacturer about there recommended replacement time-frame
for the 2 ft T5s. No were to be found on the there home page or on any packaging which is were they
say to look :) They sent me the info and thanked me for letting them know it was missing from the info
and said they will correct it
 
Finally got the T5 seller to initiate a Re-Fund on the T5s I purchased off Evil bay

Just a heads-Up NEVER Cancel a EBAY OPEN CASE for a REFUND,
Once you Cancel the OPEN CASE you CAN NOT re-open

Do not fall for the CANCEL THE CASE and I will ship the Items BS
I am Now waiting for the sellers E-Check to clear hopefully it wont bounce

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MY REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE

checking the official Hortalux web site I see they have still NOT added the
recommended replacement schedule so I will post it here for future reference

REPLACEMENT GUIDE 2FT T5s
Optimal Growth -----------> 9 to 10 Months = 275.3 to 304.16 days @ 24 hrs a day = 6607.2 to 7300 hrs
Average Growth -----------> 11 to 12 Months
Maintenance Growth ----> 12 to 13 Months
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Based on a 24hr burn time per day

Looks like I need to REPLACE the
FS-UV every 3 complete Grows
BLUE SPECTRUM'S every 5 compete Grows
RED SPECTRUM'S every 7.25 Grows​

THE MATH:

I run Veg at 16 on / 8 off for approx 12 weeks or 91.25 days X 16hrs = 1460 HRS ON in Veg
I run the four FS-UV & the four Blue spectrum bulbs in Veg

I run FLOWER at 11 on / 13 off for approx 12 weeks or 91.25 days X 11hrs = 1003.75 HRS ON in Flower
I run the same four FS-UV & the four Red spectrum bulbs in Flower

This calculates out to
2463.75 hrs each run for the FS-UV Bulbs = 3 COMPLETE RUNS (2463.75 X 3 = 7391.25 Hrs)
1460 hrs each run for the BLUE spectrum Bulbs = 5 COMPLETE RUNS (1460 X 5 = 7300 Hrs)
1003.75 hrs each run for the RED spectrum Bulbs = 7.25 COMPLETE RUNS (1003.75 X 7.25 = 7277.19 Hrs)


This is for OPTIMAL GROWTH using these bulbs

EDIT:
What the **** I might as well calculate the cost per grow as well :)

at 20 per bulb (cash cost at my local dealer)
I use 4 ea FS-UV Bulbs + 4 Blue Spectrum Bulbs VEG & 4 Red Spectrum Bulbs FLOWER

THE MATH:
FS-UV Spectrum Bulbs = 4 used during both Cycles, VEG & FLOWER.
will last 3 COMPLETE RUNS, So
4 ea FS-UV Bulbs @ 20.00 = 80.00 dollars DIVIDED by 3 runs. 80.00 / 3 = 26.6666 cost per run on the 4 FS-UV Bulbs

BLUE Spectrum Bulbs = 4 during the VEG CYCLE
will last 5 COMPLETE RUNS, So
4 ea FS-UV Bulbs @ 20.00 = 80.00 dollars DIVIDED by 5 runs. 80.00 / 5 = 16.00 cost per run on the 4 Blue Bulbs

RED Spectrum Bulbs = 7.25 during the FLOWER CYCLE
will last 5 COMPLETE RUNS, So
4 ea RED Bulbs @ 20.00 = 80.00 dollars DIVIDED by 7.25 runs. 80.00 / 7.25 = 11.03 cost per run on the 4 Red Bulbs

BULB COST PER RUN = 53.70 USD

26.666 + 16.00 + 11.03 = 53.696

and just for kicks
Thats also works out to 8.95 Month OR 2.24 Week OR 0.32 Day

ADD my HPS/MH CL Deal price of 10.00 and total bulb cost for per run 63.70
Should I do the Elect cost per runs also :rofl::rofl:
 
Killerbudz said:
Do you have any links for reference of using UVB during the grow? Thought it was only important last few days of flower
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No links off the top of my head but here is the Manufacturer description.

Note it is supposed to help root development and other things
I used them to add the UVA UVB since I was growing AFRICAN strains and they have
the HIGHEST UV on the Planet something like 13 (as high as the scale goes) so wanted
to Mimic the same environment. Same reason for my light timing equilateral light schedule

PowerVEG FS+UV Grow Light


The PowerVEG FS+UV (Full Spectrum plus Ultra Violet) is a fluorescent T5 grow lamp that provides your plants with a well-balanced spectrum and UV light. The PowerVEG FS+UV spectrum closely mimics natural sunlight, benefitting your plants by:
  • Promoting extreme photosynthesis for faster growth
  • Creating a stronger root system
  • Enabling easy transition from indoor veg to outdoor flowering
  • Developing stronger healthier vegetative plants that will produce higher yields and higher quality crops
  • Creating faster producing yields, vivid colors, more flowering, and better tasting crops
 
Killerbudz said:
Do you have any links for reference of using UVB during the grow? Thought it was only important last few days of flower
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Ok just did a fast search on the site and here is a better description from the manufacturer

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eyehortilux.com

EDIT:
Another clip from them
"
Ultra Violet (UV) light plays a significant role in all aspects of plant growth. Plants, in their natural environments, are exposed to natural sunlight which includes UVA and UVB light. Many of the lights used for indoor plant growth produce very small amounts of UV and some produce none at all.

Think of what happens to your skin when you are exposed to sun for long periods of time. It begins to burn and sweat. Plants are no different. UV light activates a plant’s defense mechanisms. UV causes plants to produce oils, antioxidant vitamins and flavonoids to protect themselves from the damaging effects of UV.


These compounds produce the vibrant colors, smells and tastes of your plants. If your light source does not produce UV, you are effectively changing the color, smell and taste of your crop.


Keep in mind traditional lighting measurements such as Lumens, PAR and Kelvin temperature do not measure UV. Only a UV meter or a spectral distribution chart can provide information on a light source’s UV output. "

AND SOME MORE

plants use UV to stimulate photosynthesis, though it has less of a stimulating affect versus other nanometers of light. But UV can provide benefits, as well as problems, as too much can cause cell damage and with too much exposure even kill plants. UVA rays (315-400nm) and UVB rays (280-315nm) can penetrate deeper in soil and water due to higher scattering efficiency compared with other longer wavelength light, which will benefit for plant seeding from photon energy absorption perspective. More particularly saying, UV has significant impact for plant early growth. The UVR8, UVB photoreceptor, initiates a molecular signaling pathway that leads to gene expression changes. This signaling output leads to UVR8-dependent responses including UV-B-induced Photomorphogenesis and the accumulation of UV-B-absorbing flavonols. More importantly, UVR8 UV-B signaling represents how plants are able to sense their light environment and adjust their growth accordingly to regulate germination.
 
Just noticed this on a News feed LADYBUG SWARM show up on RADAR

The large echo showing up on SoCal radar this evening is not precipitation, but actually a cloud of lady bugs termed a "bloom"," the weather service tweeted.


But experts said the bugs may not appear quite that concentrated to observers on the ground, as they are spread out through the sky and at different elevations.

According to the University of California Pest Management Program, this is a common time of year for ladybugs to migrate to higher elevations in search of food. Most species of the beetle are considered beneficial to agriculture as they feed on pests.

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Gazoo said:
Just noticed this on a News feed LADYBUG SWARM show up on RADAR

The large echo showing up on SoCal radar this evening is not precipitation, but actually a cloud of lady bugs termed a "bloom"," the weather service tweeted.


But experts said the bugs may not appear quite that concentrated to observers on the ground, as they are spread out through the sky and at different elevations.

According to the University of California Pest Management Program, this is a common time of year for ladybugs to migrate to higher elevations in search of food. Most species of the beetle are considered beneficial to agriculture as they feed on pests.
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Too cool! How ya been Gazoo?
 
Just ran across this interesting article explaining how the PUSH to reduce energy consumption in
Grow lights may not be a good thing


"Efforts are underway to establish minimum lighting requirements for indoor cultivation of plants. Lighting fixtures will have to produce a minimum PPF (Photosynthetic Photon Flux) of 1.6 μmol/Joule to meet this new standard. While this may sound like a step in a positive direction, this metric does not represent the full impact lighting has on plant growth nor does it address how light affects different stages of plant growth. "

"Many energy-service providers have targeted “grow lights” as one of the major areas for energy reduction. They are looking to regulate and restrict the type of lighting that is to be used "

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eyehortilux.com
 
OH CRAP on a Cracker

JUST RECEIVED 3 SETS OF THE T5 order I had given up on

Just received a partial shipment from the T5 Seller, I was told it had not been
shipped and they were waiting for Re-Stock ? I have already gotten a IN-PROCESS e-check refund
so now need to wait for it to clear so I can resend the amount owed for the 3 SETS I just received.

Sadly this seller has no IDEA what is going on with his inventory. I only want what I pay for
not looking for Free so now have to try and contact the seller again to clear this up and pay for
what I just received

This is GREAT NEWS :green_heart: I was sure I missed a great deal
so now I have to recalculate my lighting cost at the 5.42 cost per bulbs :rofl:

USED each RUN
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4 FS-UVA/B Bulbs on both veg & flower (20.00 ea., good for 3 runs OR 7391.25 hrs total ON)
4 RED SPECTRUM Bulbs on flower only (5.42 ea., good for 7.25 runs OR 7277.19 hrs total ON)
4 BLUE SPECTRUM Bulbs on Veg Only (5.42 ea., good for 5 runs OR 7300 hrs total ON)

38.91 Bulb cost per run (running a "optimum output" time line)
It will actually go down to 33.99 if I receive the last set of 4 bulbs?

5.42 each cost for 3 sets of the Red & Blue spectrum's (12 bulbs) but 20.00 ea for the FS-UV = 38.91 bulb cost per run after the math

Time Bulb is used before replacement is Based on a 7300 hr "ON TIME" for OPTIMUM OUTPUT

REPLACEMENT GUIDE 2FT T5s
Optimal Growth -----------> 9 to 10 Months = 275.3 to 304.16 days @ 24 hrs a day = 6607.2 to 7300 hrs
Average Growth -----------> 11 to 12 Months
Maintenance Growth ----> 12 to 13 Months
--------------------------------------------------------------
Based on a 24hr burn time per day
 
Gazoo said:
Been Good, Just waiting for summer and doing a little Grow Room re-model in the hopes of opening
up another tent so I can do VEG & FLOWER at the same-time

Hows the new location going, all set-up ?
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Still building, and growing while we do. Haven’t quite filled out the allotted permit space yet, but it looks like we’ll get a few turns in the hoops that are established.

It’s a lot of work, In an unpredictable market, but we hope the juice will be worth the squeeze. Will take a few years to get there, to be sure.

:passitleft:
 
StoneyMemoirs said:
Still building, and growing while we do. Haven’t quite filled out the allotted permit space yet, but it looks like we’ll get a few turns in the hoops that are established.

It’s a lot of work, In an unpredictable market, but we hope the juice will be worth the squeeze. Will take a few years to get there, to be sure.

:passitleft:
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Unpredictable is a understatement, Hopefully they will LOWER some of that TAX burden.
Was recently reading how the TAXes are putting the small startups out. TAXED BEFORE you grow,
TAXED at HARVEST & TAXED again when SOLD. and you cant get a small business loan to help
cover the up front cost from the Banks.

Plus the Cost to bring the property up to regulation standards (Paved roads and such)

Good luck Navigating the Government Red Tape, I fear you may need it
 
Cool lookin thang Gazoo,....just where you bin hiding....:reading420magazine:
 
Laid up?
 
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