New Moon Over Guawi: A High Brix Journey

Killerbudz · Aug 19, 2018

Gazoo said:
I tend to agree but since I only recently started using this style pot I wanted to get a good idea of
how it dry's. Plus I now understand how LIGHT the pot can REALLY GET I am absolutely sure
I have been watering to often in the past, Now that I have spent the time to weigh the pot everyday
I have a much better understanding of what is happening

That much closer to a garden pot sponsorship...

Gazoo · Aug 19, 2018

Killerbudz said:
That much closer to a garden pot sponsorship...

I'll take what I can get :cool:

BTW a dream of mine would be to one day offer rooms for rent
that would include a Grow Space and hands on Course using the KIT products. Nothing big just
a place to get like minded growers together

Gazoo · Aug 20, 2018

Just got my Bi-Weekly electronics sales add and noticed this item
Soil Moisture Controller 10 + 7 shipping (shipping nearly as much ?)

Anyway thinking I could hook it up with an emergency H20 Supply set-up
for those times I miss my lowest level of moisture, I can set it to only run
liquid up a few % points so in the event it gets to dry overnight I wont have
to worry about it and it wont get to the point were the plant suffers

Oh it has an adjustment to adjust Calibration up or down along with Upper and lower limits

EDIT: Another thought is I can cut TWO THIN SLOTS in the lower area of my larger pots and be
able to just Push-in the sensor (removable if needed). I would be able to monitor the moisture
level at the bottom . Once I up-pot to the finish pots I wont be weighing them any longer so
this may be a easy way to watch things at that point

EDIT: EDIT: Just ordered 2, Same cost shipping so 13.425 each
I think this should work Great I dont have to use the Auto water Function.
I should be able to CALIBRATE it to ZERO, or maybe 1 using a DRY POT prior to use,
This way I just need to see a ZERO or some value that tells me its just before wilt and ready
for H20

Van Stank · Aug 20, 2018

Gazoo said:
Soulshine

The Allman Brothers Band

When you can't find the light
That guides you through a cloudy day
When the stars ain't shinin' bright
And you fell like you've lost you're way
When the candle lights of home
Burn so very far away
Well you got to let your soul shine
Just like my daddy used to say

He used to say soul shine
It's better than sunshine
It's better than moonshine
Damn sure better than rain
Hey now people don't mind
We all get this way sometimes
Got to let your soul shine
Shine till the break of day

I grew up thinkin' that I had it made
Gonna make it on my own
But life can take the strongest man
And make him feel so alone
Now and then I feel a cold wind
Blowin' through my achin' bones
I think back to what my daddy said
He said Boy, in the darkness before the dawn

Let your soul shine
It's better than sunshine
It's better than moonshne
Damn sure better than rain
Yeah now people don't mind
We all get this way sometimes
Got to let your soul shine
Shine till the break of day

Sometimes a man can feel this emptiness
Like a woman has robbed him of his very soul
A woman too, God knows, she can feel like this
And when your world seems cold
You got to let your spirit take control

Let your soul shine
It's better than sunshine
It's better than moonshine
Damn sure better than rain
Lord now people don't mind
We all get this way sometimes
Got to let your soul shine
Shine till the break of day

Thats an incredible song.....one of my favorite by them. Always feel better after listening to that song! Nice post....going to throw it on youtube!

Gazoo · Aug 20, 2018

Van Stank said:
Thats an incredible song.....one of my favorite by them. Always feel better after listening to that song! Nice post....going to throw it on youtube!

Music and Lyrics are Great, Seems I can always find a song that applys to how I am feeling, or
I can apply to a situation. But the GREAT THING is the next time I listen, it may not have the same
meaning and I find myself WONDERING

I Wonder Why · Royal Southern Brotherhood
The Royal Gospel

Gazoo · Aug 22, 2018

VEG DAY 21
DAY 36 from POP

The ROUND POT is Now losing 10.1 Oz a day and on a 4 day dry schedule
The SQUARE POT is losing 8.1 a day and will be on a 5 day schedule, dunking tomorrow.

Looking to be at the 1 day dry in another 10 days, should be able to get another full cycle
of Drench Dunks and 2 more Brixes in that time. Trying to time it at a TP for up-pot

The ROUND POT May need A mid stage Up-Pot to a 3 gal rootmaker ?

The SQUARE POT I should be able to get away with only the one Up-Pot ?

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Killerbudz · Aug 22, 2018

Wow what a pretty bong

.

If you up pot one plant Into a 3 gal are you worried about that one hitting a growth spurt and getting away from you?

Gazoo · Aug 22, 2018

Killerbudz said:
Wow what a pretty bong .

If you up pot one plant Into a 3 gal are you worried about that one hitting a growth spurt and getting away from you?

I do, but I want to keep her in Veg longer, Once I up to the Finish 10g I want to flip within a week
2 at the most. Last time I up-potted and had to wait 3 or 4 weeks to fill the net so want to try
and have her ready to flip faster.With the Sativa growing as fast as she is I think I have a chance,
just need to figure out how I want to proceed

1) Up-pot once at start of week 5 and Flip within 2
2) Up-pot Twice, Once to 3g then 10g and flip at 7 or 8 weeks.
3) Try and keep her in the 1g another 2.5 weeks (watering everyday for probably1.5 weeks)

Big Sparks · Aug 22, 2018

Sounds like a plan. Now, you have only to execute! Keep em green!

Gazoo · Aug 22, 2018

Big Sparks said:
Sounds like a plan. Now, you have only to execute! Keep em green!

Yup got a plan, Now I just need to GUESS which path will be the smoothest

JustMeds · Aug 22, 2018

I like option 2 but it is more work.

Gazoo · Aug 22, 2018

JustMeds said:
I like option 2 but it is more work.

Thanks I do as well Plus that would give her a chance to adjust to the 2nd run soil a little sooner.
Still have a little time to let things play out some, but leaning that way for now

Gazoo · Aug 23, 2018

Well that was fun Last night at Lights on the SQUARE POT was kinda in-between Dunk time,
Still had 35.2 oz pot weight ( 33.5 target) so did a 2.5 oz top dribble. This morning, Mid day
for the tent, she was at 33.2 so did a mid-day dunk ( 12 cups H2O + 1/4 TP + 0.5 ml Tea ).

All went well, Dunked for the 7 min time frame and got 6.25 cups in, Target is 6.0 cups which
is easy math since its 1/2 the mixed amount are actually staying in pot

PROBLEM I noticed the HUMIDITY on that POT was at 70% and RISING ? adjusted a bunch
of stuff before I REALIZED the Remote Sensor has the reading sensor opening at the top of sensor,
I put it in UP-SIDE DOWN so reading was coming from top of wet soil, needed to turn it over

Good thing I keep notes on my settings

Oh Yea I Finally found some more 2ft T5 fixtures on CL ( 2 for 10.00) so took the lights out just
before lights out, Added the 2 New fixtures and replaced just before Lights on. So I am now back
to the original 216W of T5. I was using 2 for the 660nm wake-up call so now I can put back the
2 UVB Tubes and still have the 660nm

TripleBeam · Aug 26, 2018

Hi Gazoo,
I don't how i haven't seen your journal. Seeing page 15 has me wanting to start at page 1 to read it all. Be back later.

Gazoo · Aug 26, 2018

TripleBeam said:
Hi Gazoo,
I don't how i haven't seen your journal. Seeing page 15 has me wanting to start at page 1 to read it all. Be back later.

Welcome aboard Buddy

Hope you can make sense of all this. Bad habit of saying/posting whats going through my head at the time,
can be a little confusing I am sure

So on that note I will post some more random INFO in the following post o_O

Also later tonight I should have another written update taking us up to tonight

Gazoo · Aug 26, 2018

RootMaker Pot Study

SPOILER ALERT
Lots of Data
You may want to skip the Start and just
take note of the RED and BLUE ARROWS,
along with the Dry Cycle Times.

Starting to see PATTERNS as the liquid weight
is being USED up. Looks to be very easy to Judge
how long I can let roots search before next dunk.
Using RED and BLUE arrows as trending FLAGS.

Down RED arrows
indicate the plant
roots are on the search.

Base Line Weights
Round = 1 gal RootMaker Pot weighs 4.6 oz
Square =1 gal RootMaker Pot weighs 5.6 oz

Round 1g filled with pro-mix, Filled Dry 23.7 oz
Square 1g filled with pro-mix, Filled Dry 23.7 oz
(Square pot is shorter and thicker, so the Round pot
holds an the extra oz of soil, I assume)

Dry weight = 23.7 oz
Cup of water = 8.0 oz

TARGET WEIGHT @ Start 31.5 to 35.5 oz
(1 to 1.5 cups liquid weight in pot)

Below are the daily Liquid Weight Loss numbers.

Note how it is very clear when the plants roots have used up the available water in there area,
This is indicated by the RED DOWN arrows, during this time the roots are searching.

This chart also gives me a daily picture of the plants progress. I want to see continued increase in uptake.
I suspect once daily watering has begun the plants will stall. Hoping this will be a good indicator of EXACTLY
when this happening, and should be able to prepare/plan in advance the GE / TP / H20 Cycle I want to adjust to

ROUND (GDP)
/\ = Pot is Loosing MORE Liquid Weight
\/ = Pot is Loosing LESS Liquid weight (roots cant find it, searching)

July 12/13 Germination Dunk clear H2O
25th = 47.9
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26th = 46.6 - 1.3 /\
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27th = 43.3 - 3.3 /\
............44.3 After 1.0 oz Dribble
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28th = 44.6 + 0.3 \/ ???????
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29th = 43.6 - 1.0 \/
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30th = 42.7 - 0.9 \/
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31st = 41.8 - 0.9 =
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AUGUST
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1st = 40.8 - 1.0 /\=
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2nd = 39.8 - 1.0 =
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.............21 Days since Germination dunk
3rd = 38.9 - 0.9 \/
...........78.6 after TP DUNK @ 21 Days from last
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Removed 2nd outside pot that was being used
to protect inner pot from cool mist humidifier.
APPARENTLY that slows drying considerably
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4th = 74.2 - 4.4 /\
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5th = 70.4 - 3.8 \/
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6th = 66.3 - 4.1 /\
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7th = 62.1 - 4.2 /\
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8th = 57.6 - 4.5 /\
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9th = 53.7 - 3.9 \/
............55.2 After 1.5 oz Dribble
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10th = 50.7 - 4.5 /\
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11th = 46.5 - 4.2 \/
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12th = 42.0 - 4.5 /\
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13th = 38.0 - 4.0 \/
............80.1 after H2O DUNK @ 10 Days from Last
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14th = 74.5 - 5.6 /\
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15th = 68.4 - 6.1 /\
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16th = 60.7 - 7.7 /\
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17th = 51.7 - 9.0 /\
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18th = 43.5 - 8.2 \/
............45.5 After 2.0 oz Dribble
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19th = 37.9 - 7.6 \/
............80.2 after GE DUNK @ 6 Days from Last
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20th = 71.4 - 8.8 /\
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21st = 61.3 - 10.1 /\
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22nd = 50.9 - 10.4 /\
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23rd = 37.9 - 13.0 /\
.............78.1 after H20 DUNK @ 4 Days from Last
38 days from pop
23 days Veg
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NEXT DUNK tonight @ 3 DAYS from last
May try and delay an extra day for roots to search more

Gazoo · Aug 26, 2018

5th UPDATE
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SEEDLING STAGE
ENDED on JULY 31
LINK --> SEEDLING STAGE by DATE <-- LINK

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:green_heart:

START

VEGETATIVE STAGE
AUGUST 1st (Day 15 from Pop)

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USER INTERVENTIONS by DATE FOR
AUG 2018

1st - GUAWI FIMMED at 5th Node - Need to keep plants as short as possible
....-.....GDP Got BONDAGE & Shoot SQUEEZE - Noticed I did a BAD FIM :eek:

earlier

2nd - GDP Got 1oz H2O Top DRIBBLED at Lights On, 6 days since last dribble.

3rd - GDP 1ST DUNK - Using HEAVY FIRST dunk amount.
......................... Added 0.5 Ounce TP + 2.5 ml TEA to 12 cups H20.
.................... .....Actual amounts added - this is the result after calculating out Amount left over
..................... TRUE Amount added to GDP 6.0625732 ml TP & 1.025 ml TEA

4th - Last Quarter Moon - Reference Date -
...........ADDED SCROG NET - On Both, Seemed less stress than Pipe cleaner tie downs

6th - REMOVED SCROG NET - Could tell it was going to be to difficult to remove and weigh pots

7th - GUAWI 1.5 OZ H20 DRIBBLE - Been 7 days since dunk

9th - GUAWI 2ND DUNK - This is the 1/4 TP Dunk (I should of used 0.1 ml TEA NOT 1.0 ml)

Added 1.0 ml TP + 1.0 ml TEA to 12 cups H20.
DUNKED with 2 cups down top

Actual amounts added

..........................Pot weight at start was 36.0 oz , After 73.0 oz
..........................Started with 12 cups liquid - 7 2/3 cups left over = 4.333 cups into pot (36% is 4.32 cups)
..................... TRUE Amount TP added to GUAWI 0.36 ml TP & 0.36 ml TEA
..........................A reg feed is 2.0 ml per gal and I am looking for 1/4 or 0.5 ml so a bit light

10th - GDP 1.5 OZ H20 DRIBBLE - Been 7 days since dunk
.............1ST BRIX - On Both, Mixed 0.45ml Brix with 0.5 oz H2O

11th - New MOON - Reference Date

13th - GDP 2ND DUNK - This is the 1/4 TP Dunk I should of used 0.1 ml TEA NOT 1.0 ml (same as guawi)

Added 1.0 ml TP + 1.0 ml TEA to 12 cups H20.
DUNKED with 2 cups down top

Actual amounts added

..........................Pot weight at start was 38.0 oz , After 80.1 oz
..........................Started with 12 cups liquid - 5 3/4 cups left over = 6.25 cups into pot (52% is 6.24 cups)
..................... TRUE Amount TP added to GDP 0.52 ml TP & 0.52 ml TEA
..........................A reg feed is 2.0 ml per gal and I am looking for 1/4 or 0.5 ml so very close to amount needed

I DID NOTE Start DUNK TIME and END TIME maybe next time I can adjust using dunk time ?

14th - GDP BRANCH TOP - Needed to start topping the leader branches since I am corkscrewing her
.............GUAWI LEAF TRIM - Same deal need to keep center open since she is being trained to circle pot

15th - GUAWI 1.5 OZ H20 DRIBBLE - Been 6 days since dunk -

16th - GUAWI 2.0 OZ H20 DRIBBLE - Been 7 days since dunk -
.............DE-STRESS Both - 1.0 oz H20 + 0.45 ml De-Stress

17th - GUAWI GE DUNK - 4.0 ml GE + 0.4 ml TEA in 12 cups H20 (6 Cups in)

18th - First Quarter MOON - Reference Date
..........GDP 2.0 OZ H20 DRIBBLE - Been 5 days since dunk -
..............Topped a few branches on each plant

19th - GDP GE DUNK - 4.0 ml GE + 0.4 ml TEA in 12 cups H20 (6 Cups in)

21st - BRIX Both - 0.9 ml Brix + 1 oz H20

22nd - GUAWI 2.5 OZ H20 DRIBBLE - Been 3 days since dunk -

23th - GUAWI H20 1/4 TP DUNK - 1.0 ml TP + 0.5 ml TEA in 12 cups H20 (6 Cups in) @ Lights on
...........GDP H20 1/4 TP DUNK - Using left Over 6 Cups from above @ Mid Day

25th - GDP 2.0 OZ H20 DRIBBLE - Been 2 days since dunk -

26th - New MOON - Reference Date
..........GDP TP DUNK - 4.0 ml TP + 0.4 ml TEA in 12 cups H20 (6 Cups in) @ Lights on
..........Pending GUAWI TP DUNK Mid Day - Using Left Over 6 Cups from above

Next VEG STAGE Up-Date
will Continue from here.