New City Grower 3.5 - Our Perpetual Grow - Continued

[B A R]

While we're on the subject of autos, I took your advice da T.

Be careful at a point the calyx will dry and they could fall off, usually they'll end up hanging there but some may end up on the soil/flood, perhaps place a plastic cover (or anything else, be creative!) around that time to make sure you catch them all!!!

AFGHAN KUSH Auto (Clone) Day 52 / Approx. 23 days since pollination


I got creative but since doing so this morning I thought about one of my many mental footnotes:
Soil needs oxygen. Doe's anyone know if this would cause any problems? It's not air tight and the pot is an unsealed SIP.

THE FIRST STREET GIRL PLANTED THIS SUMMER Day 96 / Day 34 under 12/12

Unbelievable! Those of you who've been following may remember this one who wouldn't reveal it's sex. Well here it is after 34 days since the flip we have a girl... Blunts for everyone.

SMOKE REPORT​

WHITE WIDOW X BIG BUD Chopped Aug 19

Tried a joint out on my way in today; Another keeper. So far that's two, JACK HERER and her which is great since both are in the Big Tent. It's a mellow high, not too uppity but not too laid back. The bonus is it sustains this effect for quite some time. I'm just now sobering up and it's almost lunch time. I have no idea where the berry type flavor came from but it adds to the appeal. Easy on the lungs and kind of creeps up on you.
She bangs on the door at a good 5 that can stand next to any 8 if you're looking for something mellow.

 

[daTenshi]

Great catchers mitt!

 

[B A R]

Thanxx da T. I was thinking also with that catcher's mitt I won't have to worry myself about when she's ready; once a few beans fall it's done.

A CHANGE OF HEART ​

I've decided to trash the Street Girl Clone we put in the Big Tent yesterday and replace her with an Ultra Lemon Haze for 5 reason...


1: The SG's mother hasn't been harvested yet so I'm not sure if it's worthy of the Big Tent

2: After seeing how long it took the Jack Herer to recover from it's break/snap she'd probably add another week to the Veg cycle of this tent

3: I'm low on Haze

4: The Ultra Lemon Haze was taking her time in the 2lt SIP so maybe she'll spread her wings in the 5gal

5: And last but not least, because I can. It's my nature to change plans in the middle of our grows



ULTRA LEMON HAZE Day 61


The replacement & transplant... Instead of LST/SC I only super-cropped this time to prevent snapping another trunk in half.
As you can see in the first pic the roots of the Street Girl were already reaching down for the water after one day; There's something to this only bottom feeding in the early stage to fill these 5gal pots with roots.

Sorry about documenting under LEDs but I did everything in the tent instead of the tub. The bottom of the pot was too wet to carry across the apt.


STREET GIRL ROOTS

ULTRA LEMON HAZE

 

[CronicHempHog]

Looking good Brotha Because you made it so
More Haze

 

[NorCaliwood]

Drive bye and I glad to see your doing good. One thing I found is when you water from the top as the water runs down to the bottom of the pot, it draws air behind it. Just my thoughts' with nothing to back that up but sounds like it wood be true to me. Not that watering from the bottom isn't a good thing, but I've downed plants by keeping water in a drip tray to often without something like a bubbler in the water. But hey my friend,,, if it works don't fix it right.......... Keepem Green

 

[B A R]

Thanxx for the tip Woody. I'll only bottom feed long enough to estimate the roots have reached the bottom of the pots, then I'll proceed to regular top feeding. Also when I let the two bigger plants dry out before bottom feeding they instantly suck up the whole gallon. The two newer ones still take a day to suck it up and I only give them about 1/2 gal.

 

[Dennise]

As you know I haven't been paying much attention to anything on any other journals..... it is all about me as you know..... but I checked with the breeder that we got those beans from.... they sent me back a message that if you have done the super cropping and topping that it would slow the plant down a lot.... that once the stress has been corrected it will start to grow again like an auto.... they mentioned that only recently had it been possible to train autos at all and they still slow down quite a bit like a photo girl does until it repairs itself....
I also checked with them to see if possibly they had sent you the wrong beans... photo instead of auto... they said they didn't have any photo Ultra Lemon Haze in stock at the time and it was not possible they sent the wrong beans...::....

Please be careful out there today my friend... 9/11 We shall never forget.....

 

[SweetSue]

10-4 on learning...I can't keep up, it's a full time job....that's why I can't keep a journal.....REPS to you...

Boy can I feel you. Now, admittedly, I'm overboard with the dailies, but it's an addiction I openly acknowledge and my life would be incomplete without it. Having said that, I spent four hours yesterday preparing the update. I may be the only person in this room with that much personal free time, which is the only way I get away with it. Of course, yesterday was an outlier, and it taught me that I need to adapt or the grow will kill me instead of save me, but keeping up with a journal is not for the faint of heart.

All the rest of my time is spent studying other grows or research materials. It's like we all took up this hobby that took us back to school. Ain't it fun though? I mean, admit it B A R, isn't it a rush to hit that "Submit Reply" button? Or is that just me?

 

[SweetSue]

So you're watering exclusively from the bottom until you notice roots popping through and then beginning top watering? I put it like that because my no-tills have all their nutrients in the soil so I don't need to add anything if I don't want to. My thought was that this gives credence to the success of the SWICK during vegging. Still trying to work out how to get the most out of the SWICK.

I think what it's going to take is to run some and document it at different stages, so there's no more guesswork. I've never structured an experiment before. Maybe after I get the second cycle started you can help me set up protocols and I can finally put that one to rest over the course of a year or so. We should be able to get some decent documentation over that time and know what works best.

It occurs to me that you've got some crazy reorientation of the root system when you plant them horizontally like that. I was looking at the picture imagining the initial chaos that has to cause the plant systems, and yet they adapt and continue growing. Please explain your thinking on this technique? I remember it was to contain height and increase yield? This was your response to your yield being comparable to the bottles, right? Sorry Reg, so many grows to follow, it sometimes gets jumbled. I often wonder if a notebook might come in handy, but then I have even more paperwork. Easier to admit your human and ask.

This place is like my tent on steroids and run by a research team. You keep inspiring me to step it up once I figure out what I'm actually doing.

Keep adding to the data banks B A R. You know, we're changing the world, one little cannabis experiment at a time. 36 dropped an exciting link on maintaining a no-till that has information that will help me get my rediculously tiny pots to perform like their big sisters. WooHoo!! I love this community.

Let me get my gardening and update done so I can get back to studying. It was nice stopping by Reg. Always a pleasure and I always learn. Your smoke reports are some of my favorites.

 

[B A R]

Ain't it fun though? I mean, admit it B A R, isn't it a rush to hit that "Submit Reply" button? Or is that just me?

You're not alone Sue but my biggest rush is coming to my own journal and reading members like you interested in the crazy unorthodoxed ideas I keep coming up with.

So you're watering exclusively from the bottom until you notice roots popping through and then beginning top watering? I put it like that because my no-tills have all their nutrients in the soil so I don't need to add anything if I don't want to. My thought was that this gives credence to the success of the SWICK during vegging. Still trying to work out how to get the most out of the SWICK.

I'm just estimating when the roots reach the bottom of the pot. I've transplanted enough to get a general idea of how a plant looks when they start circling the bottom; the main trunk starts thickening at a faster rate, the middle fan leaves (meaning 1/2 up the plant) get XL, and the inner branches start to take on a life of their own.

I think what it's going to take is to run some and document it at different stages, so there's no more guesswork. I've never structured an experiment before. Maybe after I get the second cycle started you can help me set up protocols and I can finally put that one to rest over the course of a year or so. We should be able to get some decent documentation over that time and know what works best.

Most of my experiments aren't as far fetched as they seem. Most of the ideas I come up with are based on facts I've learned and/or methods I've seen from other members. Almost everything I do is a combination of what others or myself have successfully done. For instance, the bottom feeding thing evolved from a week long trip we took when I just filled the tote our solo cups are in with water even though everyone said it's bad business to let plants sit in standing water. When we got back home and transplanted a few I couldn't believe how the roots were circling the bottom of those cups! Another member (I think it was Dr Zig or Doc Bud) had noticed the same thing. So why shouldn't it do the same in bigger pots?

It occurs to me that you've got some crazy reorientation of the root system when you plant them horizontally like that. I was looking at the picture imagining the initial chaos that has to cause the plant systems, and yet they adapt and continue growing. Please explain your thinking on this technique? I remember it was to contain height and increase yield? This was your response to your yield being comparable to the bottles, right? Sorry Reg, so many grows to follow, it sometimes gets jumbled. I often wonder if a notebook might come in handy, but then I have even more paperwork. Easier to admit your human and ask.

The whole idea behind that one was that it shouldn't matter what angle we transplant at. Roots are going to grow down and out until they hit a barrier and the plants are going to grow upwards vertically. It was just easier to lay that single branched linky growing plant flat across the pot by having the bottom of the trunk at the edge of the pot.

I'm always more than happy to go back over anything. Not only does it let me know someone's interested but it helps others who are just getting on board hear about some of what's been going on.
It's always a pleasure Sue.

 

[CronicHempHog]

Hey Brotha would be around more but working now
and not much time as id like to journal but I still will at least catch my updates
Have a Great Shatterday

 

[B A R]

It's all good Cronic, bills must be paid.

 

[Jaga]

Brilliant stuff going on as normal
Have a brilliant day Reg

 

[lexblaze]

I just noted down strain todo for future - Ultra lemon haze.. hmmm sounds yummy!

Have a good weekend BAR!

 

[Dennise]

Hello....

 

[lexblaze]

I thought I'd ask here.. since my thread is still young

BAR or has anybody seen 5 finger leaves above the first jagged leaves?

I think one side is lagging.. but one side has 4 fingers, the other has 5 fingers??

 

[SBG]

Five, four even just one as long as they are healthy looking and they look great.

 

[CareStaker]

Hey BAR - cruzing through...will have to get caught up.

 

[NorCaliwood]

Just driving thru,,, you got acouple sweet looking little bushes in that Blueblood and the WWXBB.
You can only grow so big in a small container. Bigger root system equal bigger plants which equal thicker fuller buddage at harvest. I like using smaller pots if I'm just vegging a week maybe two after the clone is well rooted and starting to grow. Even some of them reach damn near 3' depending on the strain.
I'm playing with them auto's and I use between 2 and 3 gallon pots. I don't want to restrict the plants growth in any form. 20/4 lighting regiment which I'll change to a 18/6 when they start flowering. I'll get a extra 8 hours a day light to work with for growth. 24-7 I don't think is a good thing even tho auto's will flower under it. I really think plants need a little rest time. I really think plants do their growing at night myself. Well rabbling again.......... Hey I like those bushes, they are going to make a nice plant. Keepem Green

 

[B A R]

Brilliant stuff going on as normal

Thanxx Jaga.

I just noted down strain todo for future - Ultra lemon haze.. hmmm sounds yummy!

I'm thinking the same thing Lex. She'll most likely be in the next update.

Hello....

High Fifi.

I thought I'd ask here.. since my thread is still young

BAR or has anybody seen 5 finger leaves above the first jagged leaves?

I think one side is lagging.. but one side has 4 fingers, the other has 5 fingers??

I agree with SBG, as long as she's healthy I wouldn't pay it any mind. I've seen all types of weird leaf growth with no ill effects.

Hey BAR - cruzing through...will have to get caught up.

Good to see you Carestaker. No need to worry yourself with catching up, it's perpetual.


I hear you Woody, you grow monsters! I'm just trying to get my weight up a little.


Nothing really new going on or anything out of the ordinary so I'll just give a peek at the FIRE ESCAPE GIRLS.