My Perpetual Foursome

[cr8grow]

I'm going to prototype something like this with bamboo this week...looking great.

 

[Havocsm1]

Holy cow peach puree is a monsterrrr. She is stretching too fast. I had to super crop the shit outta her before and after. Pots still heavy will water tomorrow.

Plants reacting beautifully to the BudgetLED 260

 

[shottafire]

Let the games begin!

 

[Havocsm1]

Let the games begin!

Check out the clones. A few rooted. Two really well. The others are backkups going to ultimately choose the best 4-8 since I have about 12 total. If I get 8 good ones I'll leave em in 3gal pots and less veg time. Get em flowering quick so I can veg my next grow.

Edit: forgot pic

 

[shottafire]

Check out the clones. A few rooted. Two really well. The others are backkups going to ultimately choose the best 4-8 since I have about 12 total. If I get 8 good ones I'll leave em in 3gal pots and less veg time. Get em flowering quick so I can veg my next grow.

Edit: forgot pic

right on man they look great. Sounds like a good plan. I know you might not need more butif you have a little space for your tray and dome it’s good to get in a habit of taking clones even when you don’t need them. You will get really good at it and you will always have plants at the perfect size. I’m rooting stuff 75-80 percent of the time. But I totally understand if you can’t or don’t want to.

 

[DeeCee112]

Good work on the clones! I haven’t had any luck yet with peat pellets

 

[shottafire]

Good work on the clones! I haven’t had any luck yet with peat pellets

Hey deecee. I see you have a cloning tutorial in your sig but still having trouble. I use root riot plugs but any medium will work. If you want some help In your cloning process let me know in a message. I also did a cloning tutorial with videos and I try to explain it in the most simple way.
one love
Shotta

 

[Havocsm1]

right on man they look great. Sounds like a good plan. I know you might not need more butif you have a little space for your tray and dome it’s good to get in a habit of taking clones even when you don’t need them. You will get really good at it and you will always have plants at the perfect size. I’m rooting stuff 75-80 percent of the time. But I totally understand if you can’t or don’t want to.

Thanks I definitely want to. I don't wanna waste anything. I cut every branch that didn't make it to the top on every plant except peach puree. Mainly cuz I don't want another cbd plant. So 3 of them have no branches that won't make it to canopy.

My goal is completely perpetual always have both tents full of clones or new grows.

Good work on the clones! I haven’t had any luck yet with peat pellets

Thanks. I used peat pellets like shottafire said but mostly soil. The peat pellets stayed together obviously while a few of the soil ones fell apart. But they all rooted so far. I watched @shottafire videos before I planted them..

 

[Havocsm1]

Some of the pistils are showing. Seems the peach puree canopy is even with the others again. Watered 6.5gal @ 5.5grams got run off.

 

[MrSauga]

Great looking plants Havoc!

 

[Vulx]

Missed your reply there, didn't mean to drop out.

Everyone's philosophy is different for sure about budgeting your grow supplies, but generally I agree: what's the cheapest way to get the most, dankazz bud you can in line with how you grow?

So there's definitely a balance there to be had between cost in and output quality and amount.

My philosophy for Vulx is that you should have whatever you're doing dialed in, and then add Vulx last.

If you're growing in a 5 gal and everything is down to a science and you get ~60g of bud after drying, then you have a baseline.

Then you've got to ask yourself how much a gram is worth to you. Is it $10 where you get it? That's a good start. "For every extra gram I get, that's $10 worth of weed I get to smoke."

Now, you spend $15-30 (depending on your pot) on an additive, you've got a baseline to compare it to, and you do a true side-by-side.

Is there an increase in amount and/or quality? How much is that worth to you? Is that value more than you paid for the input?

I don't want to be seen as peddling an expensive amendment without an understanding of the need to ask these questions, and I urge you to ask them.

And this is precisely what I do with commercial clients, by the way. They're dialed in. They know how much they get from a plant/strain, etc. So we do a side-by-side.

It's no different for a home grower except that you pay a lot more $ per gram than they get paid for it, so it's theoretically easier for someone growing for themselves to get a good return on the investment.

It's hard to do a money back guarantee on this stuff since there are so many things that can go wrong in a grow, but I'm working on maybe testing the idea of a first-time buyer discount or something along those lines.

I am confident that the answer to the third question will be "yes" so it's a matter of finding out how to lower that barrier to entry effectively and fairly for both sides. (I'm not a huge, well-backed corporation that can hand out that much free stuff).

That said, I am definitely doing 85g sample sachets in the near future. Throw it in the 1 gallon starts, and by the time you're ready to plant up, check for a difference. EZ. Use the code on your sachet to get a discount when you order your bucket (or something, still hashing it out).

Anyway, yeah, I'll do a sample for your 7 gals if you want to do a side by side journal. Shoot over an address when you're about a week from putting clones dirt.

 

[Havocsm1]

Missed your reply there, didn't mean to drop out.

Everyone's philosophy is different for sure about budgeting your grow supplies, but generally I agree: what's the cheapest way to get the most, dankazz bud you can in line with how you grow?

So there's definitely a balance there to be had between cost in and output quality and amount.

My philosophy for Vulx is that you should have whatever you're doing dialed in, and then add Vulx last.

If you're growing in a 5 gal and everything is down to a science and you get ~60g of bud after drying, then you have a baseline.

Then you've got to ask yourself how much a gram is worth to you. Is it $10 where you get it? That's a good start. "For every extra gram I get, that's $10 worth of weed I get to smoke."

Now, you spend $15-30 (depending on your pot) on an additive, you've got a baseline to compare it to, and you do a true side-by-side.

Is there an increase in amount and/or quality? How much is that worth to you? Is that value more than you paid for the input?

I don't want to be seen as peddling an expensive amendment without an understanding of the need to ask these questions, and I urge you to ask them.

And this is precisely what I do with commercial clients, by the way. They're dialed in. They know how much they get from a plant/strain, etc. So we do a side-by-side.

It's no different for a home grower except that you pay a lot more $ per gram than they get paid for it, so it's theoretically easier for someone growing for themselves to get a good return on the investment.

It's hard to do a money back guarantee on this stuff since there are so many things that can go wrong in a grow, but I'm working on maybe testing the idea of a first-time buyer discount or something along those lines.

I am confident that the answer to the third question will be "yes" so it's a matter of finding out how to lower that barrier to entry effectively and fairly for both sides. (I'm not a huge, well-backed corporation that can hand out that much free stuff).

That said, I am definitely doing 85g sample sachets in the near future. Throw it in the 1 gallon starts, and by the time you're ready to plant up, check for a difference. EZ. Use the code on your sachet to get a discount when you order your bucket (or something, still hashing it out).

Anyway, yeah, I'll do a sample for your 7 gals if you want to do a side by side journal. Shoot over an address when you're about a week from putting clones dirt.

Thank you and I appreciate the post. I'm fully interested in doing the side by side. I will send you a PM.

 

[Havocsm1]

First 5 clones rooting pretty well in the solo cups. Running out of room didn't expect to be 100% so far... Still got a lot in the cloner.

Big plants doing fine growing everyday.

 

[Havocsm1]

@shottafire hey bro I searched the web a bit but didn't find much: I have too many clones. Too many have rooted, more than expected. So I was wondering can I put the extra ones in solo cups for a while? They'll just stay small right? Just trying to figure out what to do I really don't wanna waste any. Maybe put two in one pot? Since I'm doing a short veg anyway? I think it'd be a fun experiment..

 

[Havocsm1]

Checked some of the droopier clones and they didn't root. Kind of happy they didn't I wouldn't have the room anyway. Still trying to figure out how I'm going to fit these. If the rest roots I'll have 11 clones. I'd have to put them in 1 or 2 gal containers or two in one pot. I might just trash the ones that are growing the slowest. Going to uppot the remaining clones this weekend and go from there.

 

[Havocsm1]

Got all my clones in solo cups. I ended up with 9. So I did some tough math and figured out 2gal pots would be perfect for 9 clones in veg tent. I won't uppot ever, just keep the MegaCrop flowing. Soon as my Big plants are done, I'll flower the clones and drop more seeds. I'm not going to train the clones at all maybe just top once. I want 9 single colas. That's the plan for now. Still waiting on booster fan for veg tent . Amazon is being slow, probably from the virus.

Big plants getting well.... Big. Will post pics when they wake up.

Have a great Saturday

 

[Havocsm1]

Feeding 6.5 gal @ 5.5 grams MC. No BE yet.

 

[Havocsm1]

So Amazon is definitely lagging because of the virus. My duct fan won't be here for 3 weeks I just checked. 2gal pots tomorrow night and some other stuff.

I couldn't wait any longer for the new fan so I went ahead and rigged up my viparspar at 50% power, going to monitor temps constantly. I have a vivosun fan that's super loud incase I really need to use it but for now I just have a clip on pushing air into my big tent and out the window. This is the veg tent currently. Also a pic of the loud 20$ 6'' vivosun booster. Can't wait for my Cloudline s4!!!

Edit: also trying my second attempt at rosemary, basil, and sage. Going to eventually try thyme and a few other herbs.

 

[Buds Buddy]

Damned ... 6.5 gallons. How many plants you feeding with that ? That tent is full wall to wall. Looks beautiful in there. The trimming is going to take forever but well worth it in the end.
I think you started flower about 7 - 10 days ago ... correct ? So when is it you start using BE ? Are you using the sweet candy also ?
I'd like to try both on my next grow. Are you going to use the BE on all plants or do 1 plant without so we can see the difference ? It would be nice to see the difference of 2 plants of the same strain with & without BE.

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

Damned ... 6.5 gallons. How many plants you feeding with that ? That tent is full wall to wall. Looks beautiful in there. The trimming is going to take forever but well worth it in the end.
I think you started flower about 7 - 10 days ago ... correct ? So when is it you start using BE ? Are you using the sweet candy also ?
I'd like to try both on my next grow. Are you going to use the BE on all plants or do 1 plant without so we can see the difference ? It would be nice to see the difference of 2 plants of the same strain with & without BE.

I think two identical clones (from the same mother) is the only way to really judge. There can be so much variation between different phenos of the same strain it would be lucky two get two different seeds to produce the same plant.