My new grow space

So what's the difference between doing a tea and mixing the compost (or whatever) right into the soil like I do?

Ok, so my first recommendation would be how you view soil. When you make soil, you aren't necessarily feeding the plant, you are feeding the micro-organisms and not the plant. The Micro-organisms will then in turn break that material down to what the plant can use, forming a symbiotic relationship with the plants. Many times during the breaking down process, the micro organisms can essentially lock the plant out from those nutrients until it finishes breaking it down.

Teas on the other hand feed both the micro organisms and the plant. Think of it as a drink that gets the microbial activity humming as well as providing instant access to the NPK from what you used in the tea.

Now in the case of my soil, my soil kind of got over used. I say over used because I planted it in a smaller pot that wasn't intended for a long veg and then flower. But I ran into a mite issue that kept me vegging for over a month longer than I intended. It taxed my soil of almost all the Nitrogen and other nutrients. So for my case, teas are the best answer along with using fish fertilizer.

Now back to your original thought, I use those items in the soil when I mixed them together. So they were used and broken down by the microbial forces. The teas are supplemental amendments. Does that explain the difference in their uses?
 
Ok, so my first recommendation would be how you view soil. When you make soil, you aren't necessarily feeding the plant, you are feeding the micro-organisms and not the plant. The Micro-organisms will then in turn break that material down to what the plant can use, forming a symbiotic relationship with the plants. Many times during the breaking down process, the micro organisms can essentially lock the plant out from those nutrients until it finishes breaking it down.

Teas on the other hand feed both the micro organisms and the plant. Think of it as a drink that gets the microbial activity humming as well as providing instant access to the NPK from what you used in the tea.

Now in the case of my soil, my soil kind of got over used. I say over used because I planted it in a smaller pot that wasn't intended for a long veg and then flower. But I ran into a mite issue that kept me vegging for over a month longer than I intended. It taxed my soil of almost all the Nitrogen and other nutrients. So for my case, teas are the best answer along with using fish fertilizer.

Now back to your original thought, I use those items in the soil when I mixed them together. So they were used and broken down by the microbial forces. The teas are supplemental amendments. Does that explain the difference in their uses?

What I'm reading into this is that the compost (in my case) puts the microbes into the soil whereas the tea kinda keeps them and the plants running?
 
Your compost and amendments feed the microbes in the soil. When you mix your soil, you need to have everything in it that the microbes can eat off and convert to a form that the plant can feed on during its life. Its all taken in naturally through the roots and one of the reasons that growing in soil tends to be much more forgiving and harder to mess up by overfeeding. The plant will only take what it needs to support its growth

The teas give the plant a form of the NPK that is quickly absorbed (think a mild liquid fertilizer of an organic nature) which can cause a much faster response (both good or bad) compared to amendments that need to be broken down by the microbes. And depending on what you put in the tea, such as blackstrap molasses, the sugars break down and really get the good bacteria ramped up....so brewing it for 2 days lets that ramping up go into overdrive. So when you pour your teas in the soil, it provides instant and long term benefits.
 
But be careful with teas cause you can overdo like with any other feeding method. Some might think "well if a tablespoon is good, why not 4 tablespoons of this and 4 of that". Well just like people that use synthetic nutes, if you keep overfeeding the plant, it will let you know. So start out on the low side.

For instance, the box of my guanos recommend 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. Well I didn't start there.....I started at 1.5 tablespoons for 4 gallons. Next batch I will move up to 2 tablespoons. Also, the amendments you use at different times in the grow might be different. For instance, in flower that sea bird guano is gold....really feeds a good yield with that 11 "P" in the NKP. Its also probably a little late in the growth to be shoving much "K" into the plant in regards to the NPK. I would want more "K" in the veg and beginning of the flower phase. Also during veg, you want more of "N" and less of the "P" in your teas. If your soil is good, you will have plenty of "P" to support the veg phase. So really you want your tea to provide the stuff your plant is using the most of at that given time. But again, be careful because you can over feed during any of the phases.

I am looking at this from an improvement standpoint. I think my homemade soil is at a great baseline and I am fully confident that if I use the right amount of soil in the right sized pot for the right length of veg and flower, that I can get through to harvest without anything but water during the entire grow. But if I can use teas to increase the vigor of growth a little in the veg phase, and increase the availability of the "P" during flower to increase a little bit of the bud size.....and do it completely organically, well then I stand to increase my yield capacity. I got 14+ ounces doing water only on my first grow. If I can get even 5-10% in veg growth (think how fast plants grow in DWC or other Hydro) and a bit more volume in the buds, well I might be able to net a 10% increase in overall yield.

These teas can be used as foliar sprays as well.....just don't do it and put the plant right back under the grow lights. You have to let the plant dry before putting it back under intense lights. Either spray right around lights out time, or pull the plant out and let it dry before putting it back in the tent.
 
But be careful with teas cause you can overdo like with any other feeding method. Some might think "well if a tablespoon is good, why not 4 tablespoons of this and 4 of that". Well just like people that use synthetic nutes, if you keep overfeeding the plant, it will let you know. So start out on the low side.

For instance, the box of my guanos recommend 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. Well I didn't start there.....I started at 1.5 tablespoons for 4 gallons. Next batch I will move up to 2 tablespoons. Also, the amendments you use at different times in the grow might be different. For instance, in flower that sea bird guano is gold....really feeds a good yield with that 11 "P" in the NKP. Its also probably a little late in the growth to be shoving much "K" into the plant in regards to the NPK. I would want more "K" in the veg and beginning of the flower phase. Also during veg, you want more of "N" and less of the "P" in your teas. If your soil is good, you will have plenty of "P" to support the veg phase. So really you want your tea to provide the stuff your plant is using the most of at that given time. But again, be careful because you can over feed during any of the phases.

I am looking at this from an improvement standpoint. I think my homemade soil is at a great baseline and I am fully confident that if I use the right amount of soil in the right sized pot for the right length of veg and flower, that I can get through to harvest without anything but water during the entire grow. But if I can use teas to increase the vigor of growth a little in the veg phase, and increase the availability of the "P" during flower to increase a little bit of the bud size.....and do it completely organically, well then I stand to increase my yield capacity. I got 14+ ounces doing water only on my first grow. If I can get even 5-10% in veg growth (think how fast plants grow in DWC or other Hydro) and a bit more volume in the buds, well I might be able to net a 10% increase in overall yield.

These teas can be used as foliar sprays as well.....just don't do it and put the plant right back under the grow lights. You have to let the plant dry before putting it back under intense lights. Either spray right around lights out time, or pull the plant out and let it dry before putting it back in the tent.
Killer explanation of everything Van. I did read on my Fish Fertilizer bottle that "it won't cause tip burn", lol. I'm just trying to figure out the basics for now.

Here's a little chart that I came across today to show the importance of the correct PH in your water. Never really put the correlation together until I saw this.
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DAY 28

We have the beginning of flower happening, so.officially 4 weeks on all 3 girls. My Kings kush is easily twice the size of my 2 Snow whites, Not sure why.....could be pot size. Remember my kush is in a 3 gallon and my 2 SWs are in 1.75 gallon. So much for upsizing my pots.....lol.

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Also got my thermostat in the mail yesterday.
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My girlfriend got her new vaporizer in the mail yesterday too. This little unit is apparently going to take the place of my doobies, LOL. I think I might miss the taste of the paper LMAO. If this doesn't work, I'm hitting the Laughing Buddha for a bong LMFAO.
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Also, despite my best efforts I did not get all the walls up on the shed before the snow fell, last night we got 2cms. I did however (alone) happen to get all of the metal roofing on yesterday even though we had wind gusts of 50 km/h LMAO.... Its - 16°C here this morning. All the walls will be up today.......1 day late.

STAY TUNED.........
 
Man I i wish I could help you.


We got 15+cms last night and minus 20 here winter arrived.

Hope that vape helps you out .
 
Man I i wish I could help you.


We got 15+cms last night and minus 20 here winter arrived.

Hope that vape helps you out .
With a weather forecast like that.....fuck the vape, I'm gonna need the bong asap lol. Got today off to work on my project, never thought about the fact that it's gonna be the coldest day of the year so far lol.
 
With a weather forecast like that.....fuck the vape, I'm gonna need the bong asap lol. Got today off to work on my project, never thought about the fact that it's gonna be the coldest day of the year so far lol.

Dude make me feel worse for not helping you .

Hit lots of bongs my friend .

It will lay off it already is amazing dude

I envy that job of yours .
 
DAY 28

We have the beginning of flower happening, so.officially 4 weeks on all 3 girls. My Kings kush is easily twice the size of my 2 Snow whites, Not sure why.....could be pot size. Remember my kush is in a 3 gallon and my 2 SWs are in 1.75 gallon. So much for upsizing my pots.....lol.

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Also got my thermostat in the mail yesterday.
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My girlfriend got her new vaporizer in the mail yesterday too. This little unit is apparently going to take the place of my doobies, LOL. I think I might miss the taste of the paper LMAO. If this doesn't work, I'm hitting the Laughing Buddha for a bong LMFAO.
420-magazine-mobile1765536574.jpg


Also, despite my best efforts I did not get all the walls up on the shed before the snow fell, last night we got 2cms. I did however (alone) happen to get all of the metal roofing on yesterday even though we had wind gusts of 50 km/h LMAO.... Its - 16°C here this morning. All the walls will be up today.......1 day late.

STAY TUNED.........
Good report Guy. My Candy Canes started to bud a few days ago, but with the light burn they are pretty small. I'll keep them going anyway.

One of my Kings Kush CBD seeds was crushed beyond recognition but I planted the other one anyway with hope a couple days ago. Habe to wait and see.

If i were to give up the joints I'd need a vaporizer a whole lot better than the thing i have now. Best of lick with that.
 
Thanks Fly. I had another unit made by a company called Grenco and it was a piece of garbage, this is just something that my girlfriend brought home..... I don't have my hopes set really high LOL.
 
Thanks Fly. I had another unit made by a company called Grenco and it was a piece of garbage, this is just something that my girlfriend brought home..... I don't have my hopes set really high LOL.
Don't give up hope on it yet.

I gotta go back to work. Sick as a dog and gotta work two overtime shifts today, one now and one tonight. Have a good day, or at least a better one than me anyway.
 
The weather definitely sucks ass for working outside! Check out Arizer for a good vape... I have the Extreme-Q and a solo... 5 stars.
How's she goin? PM me your address and I'll send you the flies when I have some time and money.

We just got our first bit of snow today. And it starts...
 
Ok ladies and gents, despite yesterday's crappy weather (-16° start to the day, lol) I was able to get a full day in on my new space and completed closing in the outside for the most part. Super happy with the added security feature of the steel roll up door, never really thought about the non insulative factor. Luckily I'm growing in an insulated section of the shop.

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Gotta get cracking on the wiring now and order some opaque glass for the two upper windows to the spaces.
 
To me.....nothing better than a set of headphones and Master of Puppets turned up to 11 lol.
 
Ok ladies and gents, despite yesterday's crappy weather (-16° start to the day, lol) I was able to get a full day in on my new space and completed closing in the outside for the most part. Super happy with the added security feature of the steel roll up door, never really thought about the non insulative factor. Luckily I'm growing in an insulated section of the shop.

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Gotta get cracking on the wiring now and order some opaque glass for the two upper windows to the spaces.

Coming together nicely Guy!! Looks like you might pull it off before the weather turns to shit!!

To me.....nothing better than a set of headphones and Master of Puppets turned up to 11 lol.

That sounds like a winner there!! As long as you are playing something before their black album.
 
On a side note guy......look at the initial harvest off that ATF breeding plant. Thats only off 6 small branches (barely 5-10% of what I have still to harvest). I am guessing I will have over 1000 seeds from that one plant.

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