My First Time Growing

Radogast said:
As long as there is no open wound where you bent it, we call that "supercropping."
Higher stress training rather than Low Stress Training - but you can't undo the stress once it happens, which is why I would leave it nce it is done. IF it is in the right position.

If you can see daylight through a break in the stem, then she would appreciate being bandaged or splinted just like an open wound broken bone on a human.
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Lights just turned off 20 minutes ago, but I'll check it again in the morning to see if it needs to be splinted. Right now, it's standing straight up (or was just before lights out). But thank you.
 
Radogast said:
As long as there is no open wound where you bent it, we call that "supercropping."
Higher stress training rather than Low Stress Training - but you can't undo the stress once it happens, which is why I would leave it nce it is done. IF it is in the right position.

If you can see daylight through a break in the stem, then she would appreciate being bandaged or splinted just like an open wound broken bone on a human.
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It didn't happen while I was touching it in any way. It (I think) was from it growing farther than the ribbon would let it. I noticed it when I checked my plants in the tent and saw it sharply bent over at one of the nodes. All I did then was remove the ribbon and straighten it because I was worried about the weight bending it further. Just before lights out I checked it again and it was still standing straight.
 
Smokeater said:
I thought I'd posted these pic's already, But I must have forgot to hit post. The 1 question I have is, when I look closely at my buds, They don't seems to have any frost building up on them. Can it be seen with the naked eye or thru a magnifying glass? Here are three pic's I took thru the magnifying glass and just don't see anything building up on them. It may just because I don't have a powerful enough magnifying glass. But here are the pics:

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I just don't see anything building up and they have been in flower since 2/16/16. Is this normal, or did something go wrong? Remember I'm still new and have never seen a finished bud yet. Thanks for any advice or info on this!
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Anyone have an idea about this question? I am just worried that something went wrong and the buds aren't getting sticky and won't have any THC or CBD's in it when I harvest it.
 
Haha no not @ all. But thanks for the info on the signature, I just changed it a little. I'm one of the night owls on here, don't you just love 3rd shift, 7- 12's on top of that. So I'm stretched on time constantly. Gotta keep the family happy though. Man every time I get a chance to catch back up on smokeater's journal here, there are 3-4 pages to read before catching up. Love it good stuff, good people here. I've got to get my signature straightened out though, I'm working on getting my outdoor plot ready for these clones I want to document this year. Should be some monsters the way these clones grow.
 
Dennise said:
They will frost up Smoke.. Give em time...:circle-of-love:
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I was just getting worried because I've seen some closeups of plants younger than mine that are already frosty and was worried something was wrong with both of my first 2 plants. I guess I just worry because I really want this to work so I can start cutting back my narcs on the way to quitting them. But thanks Dennise, I appreciate the reassurance!
 
Smokeater said:
Anyone have an idea about this question? I am just worried that something went wrong and the buds aren't getting sticky and won't have any THC or CBD's in it when I harvest it.
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Dennise said:
They will frost up Smoke.. Give em time...:circle-of-love:
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Smokeater said:
I was just getting worried because I've seen some closeups of plants younger than mine that are already frosty and was worried something was wrong with both of my first 2 plants. I guess I just worry because I really want this to work so I can start cutting back my narcs on the way to quitting them. But thanks Dennise, I appreciate the reassurance!
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After 4-5 weeks many have frosty leaves. Should your's be frostier? It depends on the soil, light, and genetics. I expected a little more frostier by now too - so it could be the bag seed genetics. Brand name seeds usually produce more trichomes than bag seeds. HOWEVER ...

Even if your leaves only have a few trichomes at harvest, there will still be trichomes on the buds themselves. You will get THC. You will get high. You will get pain relief.


p.s. My girls put into flower on 2/26 don't have frosty leaves yet. I know from their mothers that both these girls will produce top shelf smoke.
 
Are you using any blackstrap molasses smoke? I used it on my first harvest, and plan to start using it every other feed here on the start of my 4th week in flower. But I wonder if it even makes a difference or not. Maybe some of these long time growers can chime in on it. I've heard from it adds trics late in flower, to also adds flavor and weight. But ive personally not done any side by side test to confirm it. That gives me the idea to experiment this grow, I may add it to my big mother, and not her clone to see if there is a noticeable difference in quality. Unless someone here has already tried and don't care to share there findings. But I wouldn worry just yet smokeater, my last 2 didn't start pilling tricomes on untill later on in weeks 6-7 and 8. They should come:thumb:
 
Radogast said:
After 4-5 weeks many have frosty leaves. Should your's be frostier? It depends on the soil, light, and genetics. I expected a little more frostier by now too - so it could be the bag seed genetics. Brand name seeds usually produce more trichomes than bag seeds. HOWEVER ...

Even if your leaves only have a few trichomes at harvest, there will still be trichomes on the buds themselves. You will get THC. You will get high. You will get pain relief.


p.s. My girls put into flower on 2/26 don't have frosty leaves yet. I know from their mothers that both these girls will produce top shelf smoke.
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Thanks Radogast, I was just getting worried that since they were bag seeds, something was wrong with them. They were put into flower mode on 2/16 and I assumed since pic's I've seen of ones that are younger and have a lot of trichomes, mine should be showing something by now. Pain relief is my biggest goal and I was just worried I wouldn't get any relief from a plant that I can't see the trich's on. But like you said, The buds should still have some. But I'll stop worrying and just wait. I guess their is nothing I can do about it anyways, so worrying isn't going to help. Thanks Radogast.
 
Jonwayne said:
Are you using any blackstrap molasses smoke? I used it on my first harvest, and plan to start using it every other feed here on the start of my 4th week in flower. But I wonder if it even makes a difference or not. Maybe some of these long time growers can chime in on it. I've heard from it adds trics late in flower, to also adds flavor and weight. But ive personally not done any side by side test to confirm it. That gives me the idea to experiment this grow, I may add it to my big mother, and not her clone to see if there is a noticeable difference in quality. Unless someone here has already tried and don't care to share there findings. But I wouldn worry just yet smokeater, my last 2 didn't start pilling tricomes on untill later on in weeks 6-7 and 8. They should come:thumb:
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I've never even heard of blackstrap molasses. I have no clue about it so (obviously) I'm not using it. Can you elaborate on what it is and how you use it if you have time and don't mind.
Thanks
Smokey
 
Molasses with your cannabis plants.

Also, make sure you get the Molasses that contains no Sulphur. That's bad. No no!

Molasses can be mixed with water for a nice water/molasses mixture, that you can then water your plants with. Molasses can also be mixed with your nutrients (check to make sure its okay to use with your particular nutrients you use). The general "rule of thumb" is to use 1tbsp per gallon of water. Simply mix in one tbspn of Molasses into one gallon of water. Next time you water your plants, try using the mixture that you made. Molasses also does indeed help sweeten up things in the end.. I personally have experienced this as well. The sugars in the Molasses, once absorbed by the plants roots, is then shot up to the plants buds/leafs and processed.. therefore.. if you use it properly and weekly.. by harvest time comes around, the sugars from the Molasses.. have gotten trapped inside the buds (trace elements) and that's where they stay.. therefore making the taste/smell of the buds just a little bit sweeter.

Molasses also does something else for the plants.. it actually does speed up the plants metabolism. Which helps with growth speed and vigor of the plant.

Just remember to take it easy with the Molasses.. and only use 1tbsp/gallon and no more than that. I've never seen a plant, that's gotten too much Molasses.. so I'm not really sure what would happen to the plant if it were to get too much of the Molasses mix. So please, if you so choose to try the Molasses on your plants, be careful.. and follow the general rule of thumb.. and only use the 1tbsp/gallon mix

I did not come up with this, it's borrowed feom another source. I just wanted to get you a general idea of what growers claim it does for cannibus. There are many different topics out there on what it can and will do.
But this should give you general idea on it, and even how to implement it if you choose. I used it on my last grow from week 3 through week 7 and harvested on week 8 1/2. And plan to do the same this round. My last harvest, tasted awesome, super smooth, was the densest I've ever grew. Makes a little nug go a long way when the good and full. This is all I could come up with on short notice. I hope this helps. I'll do some more research and see what kind of facts I can come up with for you. There are few forums floating around on the subject also.

And I almost forgot, what about this signature now? I think I may have figured it out. After smoke simplified the steps for me in a pm. Thanks smoke, let me know if it works
 
Jonwayne said:
Molasses with your cannabis plants.

Also, make sure you get the Molasses that contains no Sulphur. That's bad. No no!

Molasses can be mixed with water for a nice water/molasses mixture, that you can then water your plants with. Molasses can also be mixed with your nutrients (check to make sure its okay to use with your particular nutrients you use). The general "rule of thumb" is to use 1tbsp per gallon of water. Simply mix in one tbspn of Molasses into one gallon of water. Next time you water your plants, try using the mixture that you made. Molasses also does indeed help sweeten up things in the end.. I personally have experienced this as well. The sugars in the Molasses, once absorbed by the plants roots, is then shot up to the plants buds/leafs and processed.. therefore.. if you use it properly and weekly.. by harvest time comes around, the sugars from the Molasses.. have gotten trapped inside the buds (trace elements) and that's where they stay.. therefore making the taste/smell of the buds just a little bit sweeter.

Molasses also does something else for the plants.. it actually does speed up the plants metabolism. Which helps with growth speed and vigor of the plant.

Just remember to take it easy with the Molasses.. and only use 1tbsp/gallon and no more than that. I've never seen a plant, that's gotten too much Molasses.. so I'm not really sure what would happen to the plant if it were to get too much of the Molasses mix. So please, if you so choose to try the Molasses on your plants, be careful.. and follow the general rule of thumb.. and only use the 1tbsp/gallon mix

I did not come up with this, it's borrowed feom another source. I just wanted to get you a general idea of what growers claim it does for cannibus. There are many different topics out there on what it can and will do.
But this should give you general idea on it, and even how to implement it if you choose. I used it on my last grow from week 3 through week 7 and harvested on week 8 1/2. And plan to do the same this round. My last harvest, tasted awesome, super smooth, was the densest I've ever grew. Makes a little nug go a long way when the good and full. This is all I could come up with on short notice. I hope this helps. I'll do some more research and see what kind of facts I can come up with for you. There are few forums floating around on the subject also.

And I almost forgot, what about this signature now? I think I may have figured it out. After smoke simplified the steps for me in a pm. Thanks smoke, let me know if it works
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Thanks Jon, I'll look into the molasses, Don't worry about looking up anymore info, I'm going on the internet right now to read what I can find about it, Thank you! I also received your PM about the signature and replied back with a little more info. Good luck with it!
 
Jonwayne said:
Molasses with your cannabis plants.

Also, make sure you get the Molasses that contains no Sulphur. That's bad. No no!

Molasses can be mixed with water for a nice water/molasses mixture, that you can then water your plants with. Molasses can also be mixed with your nutrients (check to make sure its okay to use with your particular nutrients you use). The general "rule of thumb" is to use 1tbsp per gallon of water. Simply mix in one tbspn of Molasses into one gallon of water. Next time you water your plants, try using the mixture that you made. Molasses also does indeed help sweeten up things in the end.. I personally have experienced this as well. The sugars in the Molasses, once absorbed by the plants roots, is then shot up to the plants buds/leafs and processed.. therefore.. if you use it properly and weekly.. by harvest time comes around, the sugars from the Molasses.. have gotten trapped inside the buds (trace elements) and that's where they stay.. therefore making the taste/smell of the buds just a little bit sweeter.

Molasses also does something else for the plants.. it actually does speed up the plants metabolism. Which helps with growth speed and vigor of the plant.

Just remember to take it easy with the Molasses.. and only use 1tbsp/gallon and no more than that. I've never seen a plant, that's gotten too much Molasses.. so I'm not really sure what would happen to the plant if it were to get too much of the Molasses mix. So please, if you so choose to try the Molasses on your plants, be careful.. and follow the general rule of thumb.. and only use the 1tbsp/gallon mix

I did not come up with this, it's borrowed feom another source. I just wanted to get you a general idea of what growers claim it does for cannibus. There are many different topics out there on what it can and will do.
But this should give you general idea on it, and even how to implement it if you choose. I used it on my last grow from week 3 through week 7 and harvested on week 8 1/2. And plan to do the same this round. My last harvest, tasted awesome, super smooth, was the densest I've ever grew. Makes a little nug go a long way when the good and full. This is all I could come up with on short notice. I hope this helps. I'll do some more research and see what kind of facts I can come up with for you. There are few forums floating around on the subject also.

And I almost forgot, what about this signature now? I think I may have figured it out. After smoke simplified the steps for me in a pm. Thanks smoke, let me know if it works
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Jon, I found a LOT of info on the molasses and quite a few people that love it and quite a few people who say it gums up the works and hurts their plants. I kept looking and found everyone was almost unanimous about another product that is "candy" for your your "buds", I don't want to use the brand name. I decided to try that one and ordered a very small amount (250 ML) to try on one plant VS using it on both plants to see if it makes a difference. I liked it because all the people said pretty much the same thing, that it won't hurt your plants, is easy to use and increases flavor, speed of growth, trichomes and harvest yield. It is also supposed to be able to be used earlier or later in the flowering cycle (when I actually get the product, I'm going to read the directions and see which they recommend, I have 2 plants in the later flower mode and 1 in earlier, which is perfect for me by the time I get it because I can use it by the directions rather than just going by what different people say about it. But thank you VERY much for your idea, it got me looking around for these type of products. In fact if your going to use the molasses and I try the stuff I purchased from an auction site, we can compare notes and see which works better if that's OK with you? Let me know what you think since they both work on the same principal that sugars will increase everything in MJ.

Smokey
 
I got the cloner from my good friend today, And after reading the instructions and "tweaking" it so the spray is hitting the fresh cutting after dipping it in the growth hormone and adding the nutrients included with it into the water, It appears to be working famously! Once you put the cutting (after cutting it diagonally with a sterilized scalpel) into the bucket thru the top circular cutting holder you can feel that it's hitting the cutting straight on with a spray of water. I'm 95% sure this is gonna take now. My only concern with it was the spray is kind of strong and I have the water pump turned down as low as it will go. But when I look thru the hole directly opposite of it with a flashlight I can see the water hitting the cutting about 1 and 1/2"-2" above the cut and quickly dripping off the bottom of the cutting. I can't wait to see how this does over the next 5-10 days (that's how long the instructions say it should take to grow roots) and all I need to do is refresh the water every 7 days. It will hold 4 cutting's (which is more than I'll ever need to do because of the limited room I have).

BTW, the closet I was considering for growing is out. My wife and I were talking last night about it and she has been planning on storing winter clothing there all along, but I didn't know. So Oh well, as long as I can produce enough for some oil for the wife and my meds, I'm a very happy camper! :)

I still have other options if needed, but I don't want to go into to many details out in the open if I can avoid it in case the wrong person were lurking and could figure out who I am if I give away too many details.

And it's thanks to all you guys that have helped, taught, etc. me so much, I never would be this close to quitting my narcs if it wasn't for all of you! Thank you guys and I really mean that!
 
Jonwayne said:
And I almost forgot, what about this signature now? I think I may have figured it out. After smoke simplified the steps for me in a pm. Thanks smoke, let me know if it works
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Sorry Jonwayne, I forgot the signature part, It's still not working, but I played around with it and all your missing is the : after https , I copied and pasted your signature's URL and added that and it took me right to your journal. Hope you get it fixed!

Smokey
 
I didn't answer molasses last night, I wanted to see which way Jonwayne was going.

The short version, molasses is a sugary food that feeds 'soil creatures.'

In your standard grow where folks are feeding regular bottled nutrients, it is, as far as I know - worthless. Cannabis does not need outside sugar, it makes it's own sugars via photosynthesis.

In a living soil, marijuana forms symbiotic mycorrhizal relationships between certain soil creatures, most commonly glomus intraradices, and the roots of marijuana. The plants feed sugars to the glomus in exchange for nutrients extracted from the soil. The mycorrhizal relationship is like extended, intelligent roots.

Feed a bunch of molasses to the soil microbes, why should they help out the plant? They have free food. The plant suffers.


- - - Molasses and worm castings can be bubbled together to make a 'tea'. This tea can be good.

- - - Pouring molasses directly into soil can mess up a happy soil community.


Almost everything you read on the internet about plant nutrition will be a bad advice for your living soil.
 
Radogast said:
I didn't answer molasses last night, I wanted to see which way Jonwayne was going.

The short version, molasses is a sugary food that feeds 'soil creatures.'

In your standard grow where folks are feeding regular bottled nutrients, it is, as far as I know - worthless. Cannabis does not need outside sugar, it makes it's own sugars via photosynthesis.

In a living soil, marijuana forms symbiotic mycorrhizal relationships between certain soil creatures, most commonly glomus intraradices, and the roots of marijuana. The plants feed sugars to the glomus in exchange for nutrients extracted from the soil. The mycorrhizal relationship is like extended, intelligent roots.

Feed a bunch of molasses to the soil microbes, why should they help out the plant? They have free food. The plant suffers.


- - - Molasses and worm castings can be bubbled together to make a 'tea'. This tea can be good.

- - - Pouring molasses directly into soil can mess up a happy soil community.


Almost everything you read on the internet about plant nutrition will be a bad advice for your living soil.
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Thank you Radogast, I won't even open the small bottle of what I mentioned I bought. I only did it because no one seemed to contradict him about the molasses. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. I should have just come out and asked you about it, but at least I didn't spend much on it ($10.00) and can save that back up again. Sorry! I should have known better.
 
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