My First Journal, Kanno 26: I Will Grow 6 Critical Plants From Royal Queen Seeds

Jon said:
Hi @Kanno26! Hey my man, since you're about to be in trim jail for god knows how long, make sure you tell us all goodbye before you go. :laugh: Also, if you give us your inmate number we can write you letters. I'll even put a hit of acid under the stamp for you if you want, although I'm not so sure trim jail and acid go together. I could see issues there.

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Hello will ride @Jon, I have a question for you, how long you let your lying plants in greenhouses month? Thanks for the reply ;)
 
Hey Kanno,

I don't understand your question either. Some growers only grow in greenhouses which is like an indoor grow except using the sun instead of electricity for lights.

But I don't think that's what you are asking. Maybe describe it a little more in terms of what aspects of a greenhouse you are wondering about.

Or, fire the translator, and look to rehire a new one. :laughtwo:
 
Oh, I see (I think). You are asking about the "cure" phase of the harvest.

Here's another aspect of growing where everyone seems to do it a little differently. But generally after you cut them down you want to dry them to mid 50's to low 60's moisture content as slowly as you can without having them go moldy. Generally a week to 10 days is ideal if you can manage it. That has a lot to do with your ambient environment (temperature and humidity in your drying area).

Once you are down to that level many put them in jars to even out the moisture within the bud. Initially the outer edges will be dry to the touch but the inner parts will still have too much moisture. So, by "sweating" them by leaving them in a closed jar, the moisture with even out, the dry areas pulling the moisture towards the outside edges.

When you start this process you should "burp" them a couple of times a day which means open the jar and let new fresh oxygen in. The cure process is done by aerobic microbes and they need to breathe.

So, check on them a couple of times a day for the first week or so. If they are too wet, lay them out on a paper bag for a few minutes until the outer edges are dry again and then rejar them with a closed cap.

In the second week check on them once a day, third week every 3 days or so, and hopefully after that they will be ready for long term storage with the moisture content somewhere between high 50% and low 60% moisture content depending on how you like it.

The caution is that if there is too much moisture in the jar you can get mold which will ruin your bud making it unsmokable. Too little moisture and the curing process will stop and won't restart.

It's a bit tricky but many smokers consider this the most important part of the grow.

Since I don't smoke, I cure mine much differently, but most of how I do things is different and you're better off following a tried and true process.

@Jon can give you better specifics but that's the 10,000 foot view of the process. Good luck with the cure. You've certainly earned a quality smoke!

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Hi @Kanno26 - If @Azimuth understood your question right, he's got you covered with the above. I wasn't sure if that's what you were asking. I think you're asking how long to dry before you jar? If that's the case, I'll make it way simpler on you than checking RH and all that pain in the ass stuff. Let them dry in the tent just like you are until they feel in your fingers that they're dry enough to trim and jar. Then wait one more day. My Yoda taught me that one and he's right. We always overestimate how dry they are to the touch cuz we're jonesing so bad to trim it up.

Then just trim it and jar it. NOW use the RH jar meter or moisture packs that are 62% and burp your jars until they get down to 62%. You should be real close if the buds were dry enough.

That's the simplest way I can explain what I do. I'm skipping a bunch cuz I know it's not in play here, but that's the barest of bones explanation.
 
Jon said:
Hi @Kanno26 - If @Azimuth understood your question right, he's got you covered with the above. I wasn't sure if that's what you were asking. I think you're asking how long to dry before you jar? If that's the case, I'll make it way simpler on you than checking RH and all that pain in the ass stuff. Let them dry in the tent just like you are until they feel in your fingers that they're dry enough to trim and jar. Then wait one more day. My Yoda taught me that one and he's right. We always overestimate how dry they are to the touch cuz we're jonesing so bad to trim it up.

Then just trim it and jar it. NOW use the RH jar meter or moisture packs that are 62% and burp your jars until they get down to 62%. You should be real close if the buds were dry enough.

That's the simplest way I can explain what I do. I'm skipping a bunch cuz I know it's not in play here, but that's the barest of bones explanation.
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A really easy and good test is this: when you think they are dry enough to trim and jar, that means you think they're dry enough to smoke. So smoke one. Does it burn cleanly to white ash or does it turn black and not give you the right smoke? If it's the latter there's still too much moisture. If it burns clean to white ash it's ready.

Easy enough?
 
Kanno26 said:
Yes thanks so that's exactly what I asked thanks guys. :Namaste:
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But seriously, think about firing your translator. I don't know if s/he is just getting lazy or what, but it's all good. We figured it out. :laughtwo:
 
Hi Kanno! I dry my plants just like you do, I hang the whole plant. Then I check the stems every day or so. At first they will feel damp and almost cool to the touch. Then as they get drier they will get easier to bend at a sharp angle. I check that and how light the plant feels to decide when to trim. You'll notice after 3 or 5 or 6 or 7 days the plants start feeling very light. As Jon said probably wait another day, but once they feel light I do the trim. It's better to trim a little early than wait too long, because as Azimuth said you don't want them to get real dry real fast.

Let us know if there's anything else we can help you with and good luck!
 
BubbaKush909 said:
Sorry we don't understand. None of us are growing in greenhouses as far as I know, and I don't think you'd use a greenhouse to dry or cure weed but I could be wrong.
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Sorry my stupid translator can't put a sentence correctly. I was wondering if I could treat the buds in a vacuum? Or does it have to be in something I still have to open on the cut? Hopefully it will be understandable. Thanks
 
Hey Kanno,

The curing process is an aerobic one meaning "with oxygen" and it's important that the moisture in the buds be at the correct moisture level, meaning not too high or you can get mold.

Some people do store their buds in a vacuum for long term storage but that is after the cure.
 
But not all cures use glass jars. Here's one that uses Paper bags.
 
Azimuth said:
But not all cures use glass jars. Here's one that uses Paper bags.
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Thank you so much, @Azimuth! :thanks:
I wanted to ask that question in the near future having 7 plants in veg. Way too much for jars and plan on making some bubble hash with everything but will keep 9 ounces of weed, hopefully well cured to smoke naturally.

You are the MAN when it comes down to helpful links, and I thank you again, bro!
Another bookmark for future references.
 
Well then, here's another idea.

I think @InTheShed uses turkey roasting bags, the kind you use for cooking a turkey in the oven.

If you have a lot to harvest they can make your life easier. One thing to burp rather than several.

Not sure if there are any tips on using them but maybe Shed will pop in with his thoughts.
 
Azimuth said:
Well then, here's another idea.

I think @InTheShed uses turkey roasting bags, the kind you use for cooking a turkey in the oven.

If you have a lot to harvest they can make your life easier. One thing to burp rather than several.

Not sure if there are any tips on using them but maybe Shed will pop in with his thoughts.
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You got linked @InTheShed . :laughtwo:
Please elaborate on Azi's welcomed reference. Expecting a big haul come autumn if nothing goes terribly wrong and can use some advice to avoid the so called "trim prison".
Thanks, buddy!
 
Azimuth said:
Well then, here's another idea.
I think @InTheShed uses turkey roasting bags, the kind you use for cooking a turkey in the oven.
If you have a lot to harvest they can make your life easier. One thing to burp rather than several.
Not sure if there are any tips on using them but maybe Shed will pop in with his thoughts.
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scottreid1966 said:
You got linked @InTheShed . :laughtwo:
Please elaborate on Azi's welcomed reference. Expecting a big haul come autumn if nothing goes terribly wrong and can use some advice to avoid the so called "trim prison".
Thanks, buddy!
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Glad to help scott! The only downside I've found to using turkey bags for the burping stage (for the cure I still use jars) is that they are not airtight. No matter how well you seal them, the RH in the bag will drift to the RH of their environment.

So if it's 40% RH outside the bags your harvest will end up at 40%. You could drop the turkey bags in a bucket with a tight lid to keep them isolated, but they will (of course) try to equalize the RH inside the bag to inside the inside of the bucket.

When mine start to dry out too quickly I stick sliced fruit in (lemon, lime, apple) or a slice of bread if it's falling really fast.
 
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