My First Grow Journal-Holy Grail Kush- Purple Kush 6x12 Scrog 4 x 600W LEDs On Movers

Re: My First Grow Journal-Holy Grail Kush- Purple Kush 6x12 Scrog 4 x 600W LEDs On Mo

5 gallons a day ... holy cow I would not be able to physically deal with that, well maybe, I would just have to be smarter than the water :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
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im completely baffeled by this conundrum:hmmm: luckily I have taps right in the res room Buck:) I used to grow sog style with 16 1000watt hps and 8 4x8 tables with 8 50 gallons resses in the flower room,50 clones per table and Ive never had this happen before until I started using this system.maybe the plants are to big? the amount of water they are going through daily has to be why the ph is dropping.I guess I wont be leaving for more than 12 hours until I figure out a solution.
 
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Hi Jon -

I think you nailed it, in that they are drinking much more water than consuming nutrients causing the PH to sink. The question is why...

Are your temps abnormally high, or your RH abnormally low (at plant level especially)? Personally, I would think your reservoir is big enough, though this behavior is proving that a larger reservoir might be easier to manage at times, and size of your plants might play into that as well.

Also, your nutrient mix might be too hot - especially if they are drinking so much more water than they are consuming nutrients. Have you been monitoring PPM's? If so, what are they doing - are they higher also when PH goes down? (I'll be surprised if not). I'd seriously consider how hot your nutrient mix is, as this may be part of the problem too.

Finally, some things like root problems/pithium can cause PH drops, but they seem so healthy that I doubt this is in play.

When it comes to PH in a nutrient reservoir, typically:
EC/PPM's up, PH down = use less nutes
EC/PPM's down, PH up = use more nutes
EC/PPM's stable, PH up = ideal

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Not sure if it's possible with your set-up, but would it be possible to put a "float valve" on your reservoir connected to a water source somehow? I don't use it this way, but if I needed to, I could connect my water to my reservoir directly (via my RO system), and it would only replenish when water depleted (so it never overfills, nor would the level ever decrease). Obviously, this dosen't address the "cause", but you would be less likely to be burned by it.

That's what comes to mind for me... hope you get it figured out! Your plants seem really healthy though, so I wouldn't panic (not that you are...) :goodluck:
 
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1000 a month! hell no! that was in my younger and dumber days when I didnt give a shit about much lol...I had an electrician friend highjack the hydro,that bill would of been thousands! now I have family and home to worrie about so I dont do shit like that anymore:)my bill was between 900-1000 a month with 4 1000watt hps 10 000 btu a/c 2 dehumidifiers and another 1500 watts in the veg room,thats including usage from everyday life too.thats why I switched to the led's bro:)
 
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thanks X, the ppm's rise around 100-200 ppm;s everyday but theres is absolutely no nute burn on any of the plants.the float valve is a great idea + reps for that one but like you said its not nesesarilly a solution.If I go any bigger with the res my nute bill will be rediculous actually it already is rediculous at around $300+ a round..Imgoing to lower the ppm's from 1400 to 11-1200 and see what happens:thankyou:
 
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nice grow mate, clean and tidy. i havent read every page, i get too impatient but pics look great. couple questions mate, how high is ur screen from pots? what is ur veg time? In tonys journal we spoke about sealed room, just so i am clear, do u scrub with carbon filter and exhaust out of the room? just it wouldnt be a sealed room then? i know ur using co2 but do u not have any air intake at all?

I feel u on the cost of nutes wen u are mixing large res's. I have 300litre one currently in use and 4 200litre res's on the flood and drains, then i have 110 DWC buckets which i fill 10litres and i have 63 6.5 litre pots with coco in that needs nutes and finally several mothers. Needless to say my nutrient bill is ridiculous!

As for ur ph issues it can be down to the brand of nutrient u use as well as the other things mentioned. U want some swinging of ph to make sure u get full uptake of nutrient but not huge swings and u shouldnt need to adjust ph daily. As i mentioned in my journal most of my hydro grows are running canna aqua flores, suitable for recirculating systems and dwc. I set the ph to 5.7-5.8 in flower and i dont need to adjust it again. on the bottle it says set ph between 5.2 and 6.2 and do not readjust.
 
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jon705 said:
Imgoing to lower the ppm's from 1400 to 11-1200 and see what happens:thankyou:
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Came across this here on :420: 'During the transition from early to heavy flowering, TDS is further raised to 1000-1100ppm.' and if this does not settle ph lower as far as 800ppm

Plants look really good!:thumb:
 
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the screen is about 18 inches from the pots.I veg under a 400 w mh for a couple months and they have been in the flower room vegging for another month.this is my first time training this way so ive already taken clones for the next round and im adding 5 more buckets up the middle so veg wont take anywhere near as long next round.I just recently sealed my rooms so the venting is still there in the pics but they are all plugged.I scrub with a 6 inch fan and carbon filter, control the temps with an a/c unit and supplement the air with co2.there are 2 main benefits to a sealed room imo, 1 theres very little chance of bugs getting in unless they come in on me and 2 you have complete control of the enviroment.there is no fluxuation in room temps or rh they sit at 85 degrees and 40% rh lights on and 75 degrees,45% rh at night.
 
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ajagunle said:
Came across this here on :420: 'During the transition from early to heavy flowering, TDS is further raised to 1000-1100ppm.' and if this does not settle ph lower as far as 800ppm

Plants look really good!:thumb:
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thanks AJ im going to lower the ppm's tonight and hopefully this helps:)
 
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thats a long veg time mate, for me 3 weeks is a long time! lol
 
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tecnically its only 4 weeks in the flower room but ya I hate waiting too lol.usually theres only 1-2 weeks of veg once they get into the flower room,and hopefully thats how it will be next round with the extra buckets.this new training style added a month of veg that I wasnt expecting.
 
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Beauty update jon!
Now that's what I'm talking about..
2 days since flip and she's showing her lady parts!?
GLR is the bee's knee's..
screen is looking really even vertically!
nice work .
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Thanks Vick and Tony:) yep they sum bigguns Tony maybe 5-6 footers without the training.thats a pretty big plant at the begining of flower.the pk will be the last lady to show me under her skirt she a little shy that one but she really packs on the weight in the last 3 weeks so I just keep on:lot-o-toke: and waiting:)
 
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man a scrog is a great way to grow brother!
I aint hip on the hydro,LED gazzilion watt thing but I still loves to watch:)
 
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lmao..yep I love scrogging bro and well its pretty obvious im not smoking 5-6 pounds in between grows that bedroom and closet make me more money than my job does.the prices around here for good weed are in exess of $3000 a pound.I find these days its pretty hard to get ahead in life and make a better life for my son with just a job unless your a doctor or something and I most definetly am not lol...my son is well on his way to a full college education thanks to these lovely ladies, and if I feel like taking some personal time off of work I do.Im a die hard fisherman so every chance I get im in the boat.theres 37 lakes within an hour of me and Ive only been on 10 of them so far but then again ive only been living in this area for 2 years.thats what this is all about for me bro, living the life I want to live and not having to worry so much about my kids education or something big happening to my house ect...
 
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jon705 said:
lmao..yep I love scrogging bro and well its pretty obvious im not smoking 5-6 pounds in between grows that bedroom and closet make me more money than my job does.the prices around here for good weed are in exess of $3000 a pound.I find these days its pretty hard to get ahead in life and make a better life for my son with just a job unless your a doctor or something and I most definetly am not lol...my son is well on his way to a full college education thanks to these lovely ladies, and if I feel like taking some personal time off of work I do.Im a die hard fisherman so every chance I get im in the boat.theres 37 lakes within an hour of me and Ive only been on 10 of them so far but then again ive only been living in this area for 2 years.thats what this is all about for me bro, living the life I want to live and not having to worry so much about my kids education or something big happening to my house ect...
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Yep i hear ya mate! I think you just wrote a summery of my life over the last few years! :peace:
 
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jon705 said:
lmao..yep I love scrogging bro and well its pretty obvious im not smoking 5-6 pounds in between grows that bedroom and closet make me more money than my job does.the prices around here for good weed are in exess of $3000 a pound.I find these days its pretty hard to get ahead in life and make a better life for my son with just a job unless your a doctor or something and I most definetly am not lol...my son is well on his way to a full college education thanks to these lovely ladies, and if I feel like taking some personal time off of work I do.Im a die hard fisherman so every chance I get im in the boat.theres 37 lakes within an hour of me and Ive only been on 10 of them so far but then again ive only been living in this area for 2 years.thats what this is all about for me bro, living the life I want to live and not having to worry so much about my kids education or something big happening to my house ect...
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What a great post !!! I'm with you there, bro !!
Good luck to your son , most important thing in LIFE !!!!

(+reps if the sys allow me ...lol)
 
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