Multi-Strain Seed Run

[dr.h00k]

Congrats on seeing some ballz!...like you, I would have expected the whole branch to be male...as to the pollen being viable for seed production...dunno'...new to this and my attempt at the same effort using CS was unsuccessful...as well as PW, maybe @Icemud or @Mr. Krip could weigh in with their thoughts...cheerz... ......

 

[Old Salt]

Congrats on seeing some ballz!...like you, I would have expected the whole branch to be male...as to the pollen being viable for seed production...dunno'...new to this and my attempt at the same effort using CS was unsuccessful...as well as PW, maybe @Icemud or @Mr. Krip could weigh in with their thoughts...cheerz... ......

Thanks, I would more than welcome their thoughts.

 

[Mr. Krip]

Well, STS will reverse female flowers - NOT female branches. If I had to guess, the surrounding flowers did not get enough STS to reverse them. I would expect some S1's from them, though!

 

[Old Salt]

Well, STS will reverse female flowers - NOT female branches. If I had to guess, the surrounding flowers did not get enough STS to reverse them. I would expect some S1's from them, though!

Thank you!

 

[Old Salt]

OK, I chopped down the ballsy branch, cut off a short piece with the balls, removing most of the leaves and female flowers. I put it into a 500ml (1/2 qt) Mason/Ball jar to collect any more pollen it wants to cough up.

There was pollen floating on the run off, so chances are I'll have some Candida CD1 S1s, Cream & Cheese and Sapphire Scout F1s. I'll use the pollen I collect to pollinate the other Candida in my other tent. So I'll have F1s of Candida as well.

It's definitely not what I wanted when I started this grow, Hopefully my mistakes will help those behind me.

Next time I try this, my tents will be serially monogamous. So "There can be only one" strain per tent.

 

[Pennywise]

That's good advise Old Salt!

 

[dr.h00k]

...I'll have to hit you up in the spring as to where you sourced the STS...I've got one more A5 X Panama seed I'd like to try again with a reversal...cheerz... ...h00k......

 

[The Bard]

F>M Branch Questions

I went to chop the STS treated branches today. I found this on the Candida...

Candida Pollen Sacks​

I was expecting to get a branch that was solid male. As you can see these pollen sacks are nestled among the female flowers (lucky sods ). My questions are:

Is this the normal result of a sex reversal, or was my original assumption that the branch should have had only male flowers correct?

Is the pollen produced by these sacks all female, or is it hermie?

Will you answer these questions @Pennywise? An comments you may have are more than welcome. This branch was treated twice per day with STS for three days prior to the flip, and twice seven days later.

Needless to say, the branch received a stay of execution.

Good morning, Mr. Salt! I missed this update from earlier this week, so just catching up. Congratulations on your testicles! (Well, not your testicles, but you know what I mean). That is exciting news. Lucky fellows indeed, tucked in among all those females.

I've been following along with your process, as well as noting the advice @Pennywise and @Mr. Krip have been sharing - all very helpful as I try to do the same thing. Based on what you guys have shared, I changed my technique with the STS a bit - less frequent applications, and broader coverage, including some of the flower formations.

I was doing a quick google search on the topic, and found this post. A lot of it is quite familiar but the application section was kind of interesting, as well as the harvest/storage section.

Hope that you are finally getting some nice weather, Salt.

 

[The Bard]

OK, I chopped down the ballsy branch, cut off a short piece with the balls, removing most of the leaves and female flowers. I put it into a 500ml (1/2 qt) Mason/Ball jar to collect any more pollen it wants to cough up.

There was pollen floating on the run off, so chances are I'll have some Candida CD1 S1s, Cream & Cheese and Sapphire Scout F1s. I'll use the pollen I collect to pollinate the other Candida in my other tent. So I'll have F1s of Candida as well.

It's definitely not what I wanted when I started this grow, Hopefully my mistakes will help those behind me.

Next time I try this, my tents will be serially monogamous. So "There can be only one" strain per tent.

Monogamous tent. Love it!

 

[Pennywise]

A female flower needs ethylene to build her flower, STS inhibits ethylene production causing male flowers to form. The better your coverage the less ethylene is produced upping your chances of getting viable male flowers.

 

[The Bard]

A female flower needs ethylene to build her flower, STS inhibits ethylene production causing male flowers to form. The better your coverage the less ethylene is produced upping your chances of getting viable male flowers.

Yes! The part that was new to me was to apply even to those flowers that might have started to show pistils (in the early stages, of course). Thanks Penny.

 

[Pennywise]

I spray a lot and often lol

 

[The Bard]

I spray a lot and often lol

I am coming around to that point of view. I had been using a small paint brush, but was a bit fussy, and not sure I was actually applying enough. A couple of days ago I switch over to a spray bottle. A bit messier, and I need to cover more stuff up to prevent over-spray, but it gives a better, more even application.

 

[Pennywise]

I’ve used q-tips but my go to is a Solo sprayer. Lol

 

[Mr. Krip]

I was doing a quick google search on the topic, and found this post. A lot of it is quite familiar but the application section was kind of interesting, as well as the harvest/storage section.

That's a fantastic article! I think I'm gonna put a copy of it here for future reference.

 

[The Bard]

That's a fantastic article! I think I'm gonna put a copy of it here for future reference.

Thanks @Mr. Krip! So glad you found it useful. I don't think you and I have ever said hello here on 420 before, but I have enjoyed many of your posts and threads. Was just reading your genetics thread last night, which is what led me to google the STS techniques. If fact, that article might be a good addition to your genetics post.

Anyhow, nice to meet you, and thanks for all that you do!

 

[Mr. Krip]

Thanks @Mr. Krip! So glad you found it useful. I don't think you and I have ever said hello here on 420 before, but I have enjoyed many of your posts and threads. Was just reading your genetics thread last night, which is what led me to google the STS techniques. If fact, that article might be a good addition to your genetics post.

Anyhow, nice to meet you, and thanks for all that you do!

Thanks for the good words, Brother!

I just posted that article here: Complete Guide To Using STS To Create Feminized Seeds

 

[Old Salt]

Good morning, Mr. Salt! I missed this update from earlier this week, so just catching up. Congratulations on your testicles! (Well, not your testicles, but you know what I mean). That is exciting news. Lucky fellows indeed, tucked in among all those females.

I've been following along with your process, as well as noting the advice @Pennywise and @Mr. Krip have been sharing - all very helpful as I try to do the same thing. Based on what you guys have shared, I changed my technique with the STS a bit - less frequent applications, and broader coverage, including some of the flower formations.

I was doing a quick google search on the topic, and found this post. A lot of it is quite familiar but the application section was kind of interesting, as well as the harvest/storage section.

Hope that you are finally getting some nice weather, Salt.

Thanks for the link. I'm glad @Mr. Krip has added it to our site. Here's hoping you succeed with your reversals. I intend to give it another try during my next grow.

 

[The Bard]

Thanks for the link. I'm glad @Mr. Krip has added it to our site. Here's hoping you succeed with your reversals. I intend to give it another try during my next grow.

Nothing when I took a quick look this morning, but will inspect more closely when lights come on tonight. Good luck with future efforts - to both of us!

 

[Old Salt]

First let's start with the clones...

Before Transplant _______________________________________________________________​

After Transplant _______________________________________________________________​

I gave away the Cream & Cheese clones. I have seven seeds of that strain left. I'm lucky three of the Candida clones survived. I have no seed for them left, and may have to grow these to maturity. We'll see what develops during this grow. The Sapphire Scout clones didn't root. The only way to get seed from it is to re-veg the last remaining plant. I think I'll let this strain go for now. If the rosin proves to be worthwhile, I'll order more seed.


5' Tent / Mars Hydro TSL-2000: Day 19 of Flower

Left to Right: Cream & Cheese, Candida, Sapphire Scout​

The tent looks a little on the empty side. The STS treated branches have been pruned away, and found a new home deep in my compost. The Cream & Cheese seems to be recovering from its height reduction by double supercropping of all of its main branches. I'll give it a week before calling it a success or failure. The Candida thankfully seems to have stopped its vertical growth. The Sapphire Scout has once again shown some massive growth.

Branch with Pollen Sacks​

The branch with the pollen sacks had all the female flowers removed, and sits in a window waiting for the pollen to drop.


7' Tent / DIY Eight COB Day 1 of Flower

Left to Right: Candida, Cream & Cheese ​

One branch of the Cream & Cheese has reached the light again. It's 5' 1" or 153cm tall. The others are four to six inches (10-15cm) below the light. I'll just move the branch a little so that it grows through the light, as the light is at its maximum height. I don't want to reduce the height of the plant until I've determined its success in the other tent.