Mota's First Indoor Grow - White Widow, Northen Lights & Big Blue

beensmokin420 said:
So what do you do with the syringes? Do you inject the rhizo into the plant directly? Or use it as a measurement guide to mix with?
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Moose's answer is correct. The syringes are used as a measurement guide. I "suck" up the nutrient and then add it to water. They still do have their needles, I got them at the prescription counter at the local pharmacy. They sell them really cheap for junkies, although on the bill it was written "diabetic needle"..! I needed a precise instrument to give the exact quantity of nutrients to the plants because the last thing I want to do it burn them..!
 
At the grocery stores and walmart they sell a syringe style devise that is used for injecting fluids into meat. They are pretty accurate and will hold up to 30mil. They also make measuring glasses that measure up to 150 mil and shot glasses that measure up to 30 mil. Since I use large resevoirs of 30 to 55 gallons, I am sometimes measuring up to 420 mil so to make things simple I also use plastic cups that I premeasured and marked. Thats just a lil trick I use to make water changes faster.
 
I only have 5 in flower lol. I am always way below 100 plants including clippings and mothers. I have a total of 30 clones which I will be weeding that number down to at least 24 or less plus those 5 in flower. Trust me, I am extremely small time in the mj production department.
I like larger resevoirs because I do nute changes once every 2 weeks or round abouts. Also ph fluctuation is extremely minimal, small resevoirs seems to need adjustments when it comes to ph. Also there is the temp factor, nutes need to be kept at lower temps and this is easier with larger resevoirs. My nute/water mix is staying steady at 74F. Controlling these factors of temp,ph, and strengh is one of the reasons some growers do better than others, especially with hydro.
 
I have a very very VERY important question!

I was gone for the day yesterday and only came back this evening. I told my friend to drop by and check if the plants were ok. I told him to water them, if needed, 1ml/500ml of Rhizo. Yesterday morning, the plants looked about ready to get some water, so when my buddy checked them last night, he gave some to them. So I get home tonight and check out the plants, the soil is totally dry and the pots are super light.. I'm thinking he didn't water them, so just to make sure, I give him a call, turns out what he did was give 1ml/500ml TOTAL and not to each plant. So each of the 3 got a little less then a cup of water.

Now my question is as follows, the soil is completly dry, I have to water them... Like I mentionned, they ended up getting less then a cup each of a quarter dose of Rhizo. What do I give them tonight?
- 500ml of pure water?
- 500ml of water mixed with a quarter dose of Rhizo?
- 500ml of water mixed with a half dose of Rhizo?

A quick reminder : Rhizo is 100% natural, contains multiple vitamins and stimulates further root development.
The dose they got yesterday was very very mild, my gut instinct is that giving them an other light dose tonight with a proper amount of water should be ok, but I do not want to burn them..!

I need some advice, I wanna know what you growers out there think!
 
water and sea tea only. Sea tea is fantastic for root shock and rapid recovery from stress. Young plants are quite resilient and they should pull through. Next grow, and some silicon water absorbing crystals to your medium, as they store water for events like you just experienced. You could use the Rhizo with the sea tea at half strength dilution.
 
Alright, that was taken care off! Thank you Moose for the fast reply and thank you the gallery moderators for approving my pictures so quickly! The 420Magazine Staff kicks ass!

Here they are at day 25 (since being put into soil)
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Here are the newbies at day 5
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Here are a couple individual shots
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Check out those leaves formations.. This is going to be one bushy plant
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Top shot
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If you look closely to the right side, you can see small little yellow spots.
A couple bottom leaves on this plant are lighter green and seem to be drying up. I guess I should take them off right? Like when they are more then 50% yellow..?
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Is it a good idea to top the plants? If so, when should I start topping them? Anyone recommend this?Does topping add to the vegetation period? If so, are we talking a couple days or a week +?

Sadly, I don't think I will supercrop. I was thinking I might scrog one or two plants though. These plants have to be flowered, cut and dried by December 20th (I leave on Dec 20th for Xmas..), so I'm on a tight sched..
 
I am not a big fan of topping, seems to effect most strains in a negative way by compromising the central cola for 2 smaller colas. Supercropping takes up more veg time and it seems only one style of supercrop was shown to you, there are actually 3 or more variations of supercropping but still, time is your factor. I am a big fan of pruning, my last entry in my journal shows why I believe in pruning.
You might want to flower before the 15th, or you might miss your deadline and still need to dry your buds.
Why did you germ another batch so soon? You have another grow area to flower those too or are you skipping veg with those seedlings?
 
Urdedpal said:
I am not a big fan of topping, seems to effect most strains in a negative way by compromising the central cola for 2 smaller colas. Supercropping takes up more veg time and it seems only one style of supercrop was shown to you, there are actually 3 or more variations of supercropping but still, time is your factor. I am a big fan of pruning, my last entry in my journal shows why I believe in pruning.
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I will definitely check that entry out. Thanks!



Urdedpal said:
You might want to flower before the 15th, or you might miss your deadline and still need to dry your buds.
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If every thing goes according to plan, on October 15, lights will be set to 12/12. I am assuming a shorter vegetation phase to allow a longer flowering phase is better, so hopefully it will turn out ok..



Urdedpal said:
Why did you germ another batch so soon? You have another grow area to flower those too or are you skipping veg with those seedlings?
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I like to think ahead.. I plan on keeping those plants to only get clones. I want to veg them for as long as it takes and eventually get some clones. Then once the clones are at least rooted and strong, take 1 from each plant and put them into 12/12. The other plants that are growing right now will be flowering, so I'll just pop them in the flower room.. When they show sex, seak out the bad males, keep those female clones and the mother plant...

Even though I will not be around for Xmas a friend of mine has accepted to come by and check up on the plants every couple of days. Once the holidays are over, more clones are taken off the motherplant. The 4-5 best looking of the first batch of clones, that are now well in the vegetation cycle hit the flower room.

My plan was to start a first grow to get the hang of it and kick it up a notch after xmas.
Let's hope that everything goes as planned and that I at least get one female mother plant..!
 
So today I transplanted them into their final 9" pots. They were only in their 4.5" pots for 6 days and the roots were always starting to show from the bottom. I think the Rhizo and SeaWeed tonic is giving them a little extra boost. I'm stoked.

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All 3 in the closet.
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The lights are about 2 inchs from the plants. The back on is slanted because I want the light close to the seedlings but higher up for the plant... Things are starting to be pretty tight in there with those seedlings.. I'll have to figure out a new way to arrange them so they can stretch out properly.

Here is the nutrient quantities I have been using.. Well not really, I haven't started with the Terra Vega just yet, but that will start shortly.
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For instance, in the "Vegetative stage : fast growth", it says to put 11-19 of Terra Vega and 4-8 of Rhizo.
Of course, you don't put a random quantity between those numbers. What you want to do it water them 3 times a week, Monday, Wed, Friday.You start off low and gradually upgrade your quantity so that the 3rd watering of the week is a full dose.
Monday - 11 of TV + 4 of Rhizo
Wed - 15 of TV + 6 of Rhizo
Friday - 19 of TV + 8 of Rhizo

The guy at the hydroshop seems to know what he's talking about. I've followed his instructions as well as Mooses' pointers and this grow is going good so far.

I think the main success of this grow to this point was the SeaWeed, I can't stress enough how much I think this tonic really does wonders for the plant.



Tonight, I will give them a half dose of SeaWeed an hour before the lights go off and let them settle in nicely into their new pots.
 
They really look healthy Mota. It's amazing how well they do w/ CFLs during the veg cycle. And the seaweed is definitely a big plus.
 
Mota said:
I think the main success of this grow to this point was the SeaWeed, I can't stress enough how much I think this tonic really does wonders for the plant.
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I really gotta vouch for that one, the sea tea really is the shit. Plain an simple. :peace: If you dont have it, get it!

Your grow looks great so far mota!
 
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