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Yeah I realize now that the pic was before I moved the hangar to expose the vent. Sorry about that guys.
Before sealing everything up last night night, I did move the hangar so the bag could vent. Good eye Gooch! I also turned off my inline fan, I kept the oscillating fan at the bottom of the tent on though to help move the CO2 around over the plants. I adjusted the height of the fan to allow for optimal CO2 dispersal over the plants.
After a few hours of it being in the tent and the light being on, I went back and checked on the plants. You can definitely see a difference in just over 3 hours. They are taking the added CO2 very well.
I just got back from the lab and came home with a couple goodies that I brought back with me. I have a tester that measures all the ambient gasses in the air, not just CO2, I use it for some of my terraforming tech to check atmospheric conditions. And to evaluate the rate of atmospheric change. I also brought home a basic CO2 ppm test kit, the syringe kit. First I used the syringe kit, I pulled air into the tube and shot it into the tester, the purple mark was at 800ppm. I then used my electronic tester, after it booted up and started spitting out all its numbers, the CO2 in the room was 834. The ambient CO2 in the air is 358 in my living room. That means that by adding the 1 bag of exhale into the tent it has already added 476ppm of CO2 into the tent.
At 800ppm I feel that I am in the sweet spot of where I want to be, 1500ppm is too much in my opinion, whereas 800 should give a nice steady boost without having to worry about going over board on the CO2 and hurting my plants. I am hoping however that the bag produces just a little more CO2 than it currently does. My target high concentration of CO2 is 1000-1100ppm. I am hoping to have the plants be in that rich of a environment for its bud swell stage around week 5 of flower. So starting off at 800 is a good starting point. I have a couple weeks to get the ppms up to around 1000 before that stage hits.
Hopefully this answers any questions, the electronic meter used is called MultiRae Plus incase anyone was curious. I plan on monitoring the PPM every few days, Now that I know the syringe is almost accurate, I will just use that so I can take my tester back to the lab. I wanted to see if the syringe kit came close to the electric meter results.
So that being said, I got the answers I was looking for as to if these bags work or not, Yes they work, but if you don't have everything else in your grow going perfectly, meaning no nutrient issues, or stunted growth, you wont really see the effect of adding CO2 into the grow. I think this is where the problem lies in the reviews of the bags when people say they don't work or are a rip off. Just by adding CO2 into the grow doesn't mean its going to be some magic additive that boosts everything. The truth is, it wont, not unless your good on all other fronts as well. If your grow isnt going along smoothly adding CO2 will do nothing extra for your plants. They need to be healthy and happy before adding it in. That's the issue, people saying they don't see any increases in yields, or no increase in growth, 9 times out of 10, have other underlying issues in their grow, like the PH being off, or they were overfeeding or overwatering, or any number of other issues. I know they may seem small. But CO2 is really meant to be the icing on the cake, once you have dialed everything else in and you are no longer having those issues. Yes I know you should have your tent maxxed out with light as well. But to be honest that's just a good rule of thumb, but as long as you have enough light for each plant, CO2 enrichment will be just as effective. The difference being, that with more light and the added CO2, the plant will actually be able to use all of the light its given instead of just a portion. Well if you have slightly more watts per plant than needed you will see that the plant actually uses all of the light its given, and that extra energy gets used up without stressing the plant. I know it may seem like I'm trying to reinvent the wheel sometimes, I apologize about that, I'm a scientist and I am always trying to understand how things work and figure out a better system to get what I need. That's basically what these personal grows for me are, experiments, trying different things that will ultimately increase yield, potency, and shorten grow times, which I believe is something we all as growers would like. Well it takes finding the right mixture of things to get all of those components just right, I don't expect to do this overnight or have some idea that no one else has ever had, I am just trying to take those ideas and make them easier.
I received a message basically belittling me about doing things that have already been done and experimenting with them, I was told to just read reviews and others journals. The problem with that was, I could never find specific information I was looking for, Most people don't go about things in a scientific manner, not measuring saturation levels, or getting base readings for that matter, No instructions as to how to use things, and more importantly if a product didn't work how people were expecting it to they blamed the product, not their own misdeeds during the grow. I do read everyones journal that I follow, I may not post all the time but I am always lurking around here somewhere. And that is basically what happens on these journals, but if you read them you will see that they had problems, they may not be major, but a lot of little problems in my book are just as bad as a couple big problems. Anytime you use a " Booster" you need to make damn sure theres nothing wrong with your grow. With all that being said, how can I trust other posts about a product with all those variables, that is why I fully explain what I do, what I'm using, and what the readings are. So people can know how its affecting things, I am making sure to keep everything in check, including temps, to make sure I get the full benefit of what I am using.
If anyone else has a issue with what I post, please let me know, I will stop posting like I normally do and just stick to posting pics if it continues to be an issue. Thank you to everyone else that's been following and I appreciate all your feedback and help.
Before sealing everything up last night night, I did move the hangar so the bag could vent. Good eye Gooch! I also turned off my inline fan, I kept the oscillating fan at the bottom of the tent on though to help move the CO2 around over the plants. I adjusted the height of the fan to allow for optimal CO2 dispersal over the plants.
After a few hours of it being in the tent and the light being on, I went back and checked on the plants. You can definitely see a difference in just over 3 hours. They are taking the added CO2 very well.
I just got back from the lab and came home with a couple goodies that I brought back with me. I have a tester that measures all the ambient gasses in the air, not just CO2, I use it for some of my terraforming tech to check atmospheric conditions. And to evaluate the rate of atmospheric change. I also brought home a basic CO2 ppm test kit, the syringe kit. First I used the syringe kit, I pulled air into the tube and shot it into the tester, the purple mark was at 800ppm. I then used my electronic tester, after it booted up and started spitting out all its numbers, the CO2 in the room was 834. The ambient CO2 in the air is 358 in my living room. That means that by adding the 1 bag of exhale into the tent it has already added 476ppm of CO2 into the tent.
At 800ppm I feel that I am in the sweet spot of where I want to be, 1500ppm is too much in my opinion, whereas 800 should give a nice steady boost without having to worry about going over board on the CO2 and hurting my plants. I am hoping however that the bag produces just a little more CO2 than it currently does. My target high concentration of CO2 is 1000-1100ppm. I am hoping to have the plants be in that rich of a environment for its bud swell stage around week 5 of flower. So starting off at 800 is a good starting point. I have a couple weeks to get the ppms up to around 1000 before that stage hits.
Hopefully this answers any questions, the electronic meter used is called MultiRae Plus incase anyone was curious. I plan on monitoring the PPM every few days, Now that I know the syringe is almost accurate, I will just use that so I can take my tester back to the lab. I wanted to see if the syringe kit came close to the electric meter results.
So that being said, I got the answers I was looking for as to if these bags work or not, Yes they work, but if you don't have everything else in your grow going perfectly, meaning no nutrient issues, or stunted growth, you wont really see the effect of adding CO2 into the grow. I think this is where the problem lies in the reviews of the bags when people say they don't work or are a rip off. Just by adding CO2 into the grow doesn't mean its going to be some magic additive that boosts everything. The truth is, it wont, not unless your good on all other fronts as well. If your grow isnt going along smoothly adding CO2 will do nothing extra for your plants. They need to be healthy and happy before adding it in. That's the issue, people saying they don't see any increases in yields, or no increase in growth, 9 times out of 10, have other underlying issues in their grow, like the PH being off, or they were overfeeding or overwatering, or any number of other issues. I know they may seem small. But CO2 is really meant to be the icing on the cake, once you have dialed everything else in and you are no longer having those issues. Yes I know you should have your tent maxxed out with light as well. But to be honest that's just a good rule of thumb, but as long as you have enough light for each plant, CO2 enrichment will be just as effective. The difference being, that with more light and the added CO2, the plant will actually be able to use all of the light its given instead of just a portion. Well if you have slightly more watts per plant than needed you will see that the plant actually uses all of the light its given, and that extra energy gets used up without stressing the plant. I know it may seem like I'm trying to reinvent the wheel sometimes, I apologize about that, I'm a scientist and I am always trying to understand how things work and figure out a better system to get what I need. That's basically what these personal grows for me are, experiments, trying different things that will ultimately increase yield, potency, and shorten grow times, which I believe is something we all as growers would like. Well it takes finding the right mixture of things to get all of those components just right, I don't expect to do this overnight or have some idea that no one else has ever had, I am just trying to take those ideas and make them easier.
I received a message basically belittling me about doing things that have already been done and experimenting with them, I was told to just read reviews and others journals. The problem with that was, I could never find specific information I was looking for, Most people don't go about things in a scientific manner, not measuring saturation levels, or getting base readings for that matter, No instructions as to how to use things, and more importantly if a product didn't work how people were expecting it to they blamed the product, not their own misdeeds during the grow. I do read everyones journal that I follow, I may not post all the time but I am always lurking around here somewhere. And that is basically what happens on these journals, but if you read them you will see that they had problems, they may not be major, but a lot of little problems in my book are just as bad as a couple big problems. Anytime you use a " Booster" you need to make damn sure theres nothing wrong with your grow. With all that being said, how can I trust other posts about a product with all those variables, that is why I fully explain what I do, what I'm using, and what the readings are. So people can know how its affecting things, I am making sure to keep everything in check, including temps, to make sure I get the full benefit of what I am using.
If anyone else has a issue with what I post, please let me know, I will stop posting like I normally do and just stick to posting pics if it continues to be an issue. Thank you to everyone else that's been following and I appreciate all your feedback and help.
So maybe the way I post and such aren't ideal either. But I have a routine that works and my methods have been helpful with my own need to reference back for info. 
............maybe in your case it does. 
My lights just went off and I still have not taken measurements. This week has just been busy.
