McLoadie's Third Grow Journal

Good weed everyone.....have a great event fishy!:cheertwo:OK, so this is what they got; I started as usual with two gallons of water, I put in a tbsp. of molasses, a tsp of sns 604B, and a tablespoon of dr. earth liquid concentrate...3-3-3, which is full of micronutes. They shouldn't need any more micronutes this run, but I use that product for a little nitrogen boost too, while keeping low numbers cuz I'm doing this as a supplement to my main focus right now.........which is hammerin em with bloom producer! The weed in the jars surprised the crap outta me.....the squishy buds all got real stiff, and the spice is startin to come through in the way of odor. This weed always needed a month to cure out real nice....this weed is more like a Colombian type.....not so green smellin.....stony as heck and I am very pleased!
 
I just measured the Yeti and she is square....LOL...her CANOPY is 34x34, and she is 34" tall, I have high hopes for this plant that I can wring some yield out of it this time, every plant, every strain has to have an optimal height....indoors.....combined with specific lighting and environmental conditions to express itself at it's genetic potential.......I have been working my ass off for over a year now, with this single plant......it's the same plant.......there was only one seed from the cross! These folks doing the breeding must have tons of space and individual sealed rooms to perform these crosses they produce. Hats off to the breeders!:thankyou:
 
The fruit stuff didn't sound bad, but what exactly is in it?

Well about the fruit itself i'm not sure yet - pineapple, apple, peach maybe. I got the idea from a cannazym ad video, they put a piece of paper in it, and 12 hours was enough to dissolve the paper. The purpose is to break down dead roots quickly into stuff that the plant can use. Does break down fruit as well, not sure though if it could harm the plant. Or has any beneficial effect on taste, or the soil at all.
 
I just measured the Yeti and she is square....LOL...her CANOPY is 34x34, and she is 34" tall, I have high hopes for this plant that I can wring some yield out of it this time, every plant, every strain has to have an optimal height....indoors.....combined with specific lighting and environmental conditions to express itself at it's genetic potential.......I have been working my ass off for over a year now, with this single plant......it's the same plant.......there was only one seed from the cross! These folks doing the breeding must have tons of space and individual sealed rooms to perform these crosses they produce. Hats off to the breeders!:thankyou:

No kidding! mcloadie...lots and lots of space!
 
Hello my friend. I guess I need to get around more often. 46 pages before I noticed your new journal! :oops:

I realize some of the questions were several pages back, but I wanted to share my thoughts with you on a couple topics.

Please elaborate kushy, what is anaerobic and what effect does it have on our nutrient solutions and finally our plants?

In regards to aerobic vs anaerobic, the former means reactions that take place in the presence of oxygen, the later means without oxygen. In general, anaerobic bacteria are bad, and aerobic bacteria are good. OK lifted this from Wikipedia when I went to double check, "Anaerobic is a word coming from the Greek word "αναερόβιος" (comprising from the words αν=without, αέρας=air and βίος=life) which literally means living without air, as opposed to aerobic."

You know, this water just ruins electric water heaters....the electrolisis....or however it's spelled deposits the particulates on the elements, I wonder if there's any chance I could eliminate some of that crap with some kind of process similar.

Most electric water heaters have a sacrificial piece of metal inside. It is specifically to get dissolved. You need to replace this, but I can't recall the interval. I think it's a couple years. They put this in to save the metal in the tank itself. Without the sacrificial anode, the tank itself would be dissolved and the heater would be worthless. When we moved into this house, we replaced ours with a Marathon brand of heater. It's an all plastic interior, so it needs no sacrificial anode. It also holds the heat much better, making it a very efficient heater.

Im only smart as a 3rd grader because it took me this long to find this journal!!!!!

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So what does that say about me? LOL
At page 46, I must be in -47th grade :blalol:

That's what loadie says.....I learned to pace myself....lotsa breaks....trodding very slowly.....absorbing all the energy around me....that's how I find the ruins, ancient firepits, pottery making hubs, hunting areas....ect.. I have been in tune with energy concentrations since my teens. I've used these methods in different states with the same results.........energy is a constant....sometimes greater than others, combined with human nature........like a puzzle.

As to being fried...LOL.....before these senses are turned into skills with lotsa practice I have found that being fried helps alot....it somehow affects senses that would normally be dormant or weak...simply from a lack of exercising them. I still explore em and exercise em in my everyday life...like a muscle, if we don't exercise it, it will be weak and underdeveloped......no one taught me any of this...I learned it from stopping and listening to what the animals, the environment, anything my senses could detect.....call to me for my attention. BTW, it runs in my family and no one spoke of it til they saw it very evident in me.

Interesting to hear you talk about this stuff. It sounds like there are a lot of us here that also share your gift/skill of "seeing" energy. This makes me think of a book I read in college, The Celestine Prophecy. It's a movie now, but the reason I thought of it is they talk about learning to see the energy in the word. Matter is really just energy organized, so I've always felt there are plenty of things our 5 "mainstream" senses are unaware of. I agree that this "sensory skill" can be developed. Anyway, it was very interesting that you brought this up. Just another thing I read and say to myself, "another reason I like this guy." :Namaste:

Last summer I was at a tourist store while on a trip on the bike, we pulled in to this place and there was a tour bus there, probly 75 people from korea, they circled my bike when I went in side and stayed a considerable distance from it, I looked for the tour guide, and told him that these lovely people were welcome to take pictures with my bike, and they could sit on it if they liked, or I would pose with them so they could have a picture of them with "the biker" from america. They very politely and respectfully formed a line and began taking turns........My bike is worth about 30 grand......but to make a connection with these people that I couldn't even speak their language will stay in my heart forever....and hopefully in theirs too. People need to know that we are all really the same and need each others love if we're gonna share this planet peacefully!:circle-of-love:

Great story. Any of them share the photos with you later?

Four girls in a bath has always been a fantasy of mine :dreamy: they're looking great mate.

I try to keep my 600, 8 -10 inches from the closest top with my fan blowing in between it keeps the temp 84f at the canopy. Just trying to encourage you to drop it on them a bit as you have plenty of fan, i'm sure they'll luv u for it.

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four girls in a bath and 1 watching :D

Hold the back of your hand under the light at 18" for a while. If it's comfortable for your hand, it will be for the plants too.

Good weed bro, It's really hard to tell this soon, in respect to the lights effects on the plants, most of my observations and experiences this early on are related to the setup and function of the light in relationship to the environment. Things such as temperature, humidity, distance of light from plants, ect.. I am using techniques to an extent I never have before, I'm defoliating....never before, I mean I've taken some leaves, but I removed around 2 oz. of leaves yesterday......the plants didn't even notice! I'm following guidelines developed in my mind from my experiences with the folks here on 420, I was trained to NEVER defoliate, but from my studies I have come to the conclusion that in this environment it has a place and is a viable technique. I have one plant that needs to be supercropped, it's the afghan kush mother that I decided to flower this run. This plant has been idling basically, in a two gallon pot for 8 months...at least, when it got in the 5 gallon smart pot with new soil it took off! It has grown two feet in a month......I potted it up as soon as I decided to run it. With my space constraints, combined with the fact that the addition of the hps light was an expedient measure to get these plants in flower and they outgrew the veg area under the t5. Anyhow, this mf'er is stretchin and is 4 feet tall now, so I'm going to supercrop it. I would like to discuss supercropping briefly, specifically setting the stage for supercropping, and I will use my training, as well as my experience as my guidelines, to illustrate my phlosophy that I employ for this technique. First, I agree that supercropping is a viable technique for multiple reasons. We can use supercropping to limit height, increas the vascular flow to bud locations, and manipulate the plant to a more desirable configuration. Now, we need to decide at what point of the plants condition is ideal to perform this technique. It appears that there is a general concensus that the more water a plant has in it's vascular system will aid in application of the technique, cause the plant to be more pliable for bending and breaking, I disagree with this idea, and I will explain why. The main factor at play in this scenario is going to be the plants tergidity, or simply the pressure inside the plants vascular system. The more water inside the plant, the higher the tergidity.........which illustrates what happens when a plant wilts. Now, for an example, put a adjustable nozzle on your garden hose, turn on the water to the hose and close the nozzle....this represents a vascular system that has high tergidity, the hose is now stiffer, try to coil it and see how large the coil is that can be accomplished with pressure on the hose. Now, turn off the water and release the pressure through the nozzle, we find that the hose is much more flexible, and the hose will be able to conform to a much smaller coil....increasing flexibility...this will reprsent a plant that has a lower tergidity within it's vascular system. This is my reasoning for supercropping when a plant is near it's wilting point, rather than an hour after it has been watered. I was taught this in the horticulture program that I learned the fundamentals of plant growth and development in, by a very well renowned horticulturist, not only nationally, but internationally. Not only that....but it makes sense and dosen't violate any of the fundamentals. If anyone has any evidence that conflicts with my thoughts on this subject I would be very interested in entertaining these thoughts, BEFORE I SUPERCROP THIS MUTHA!:peace:

Good weed McLoadie!
Regarding supercropping - I think it might be easier to find the 'sweet spot' when the plant is full of water. When thay are drying out, for me its hard to tell when they snapped or broke.
There is much bigger difference in required foce to snap or to break when it's wet.

Curious what others think..

Otherwise best wishes :)

I agree with you that a "tight" stem is not ideal for bending. I think they are more prone to snapping in that condition. I used to try and bend when they were really dry, but lately I've started to think there is some ideal spot in between. The goal is to burst the pith cells at the core, without bursting the cells in the transport layers near the outside. If the plant is too limp to get any "snap" from inside that stem, I've found they stand back up too fast.

9 days in flower, btw, for those who don't know me, my plants are in flower the day I flip, they mat not be flowering...but they ARE in flower. If you don't count like this there are variables and it takes part of the accuracy out of timing estimation.

Exactly how I count too :)

i also use the program "herb iq" keeps track of everything,heres a link to get it HERB.IQ - Home you'll.love it, you can keep inventory of everything from seeds to how many hours on a bulb, keep track of breeding,create detailed strain info w/pics,vidz,, and encrypt it all and save a backup of data whereever you want,im sure if ppl knew about it many more would be using it

I tried that program and felt it was too much work for me. I couldn't see what I was going to get out of it that i don't get with my paper journal. The bulb hours thing is intriguing, but the 3-4 harvests rule of thumb works too. :winkyface:

Is the benefit you get related to your breeding efforts?

reckon I aint spent more than $500 on lights and seeds, growing stuff since joining here.

Wow! I wish :rofl:

Or feeling like you need to do something when you should be doing exactly nothing. So much of growing is knowing when to do something and when not to.

I usually do nothing,

then chaotically do everything i meant to do over a much longer time as quickly as possible.

Then I do nothing again.

I'm REAL good at doing nothing. Watch...





















whew... See? :biglaugh:


Lovin' the HPS vs Induction experiment you got going! You know I'll be watching closely to help me decide how I'll build out flowering room 2.
 
OK, good weed everyone, I have a mouse problem, this little bastard is focusing his energy on takin out the afghan kush. I put seven traps with some nice cheddar on em, it licked the cheese outta three or four of em then went back after the kush. Now, this little furry f-ck may not think my defoliation is correct, and he obviously dosen't appreciate my supercropping, but I gotta nix this saboteur before it starts wantin a cut off my stash!
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I'll be in there with my night vision and my red ryder if this shit keeps up........I warned him and last nights efforts shoulda told this rodential rascal that I'm serious, and........I have priors!
 
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:< I would put the traps near the wall, they usually like to walk next to it. Hope you get him! Those plants are looking really nice as well, good job bro.
 
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