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That's what I'm saying! My point exactly....so how can it be considered a bloom nutrient?
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That's what I'm saying! My point exactly....so how can it be considered a bloom nutrient?
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I thought you were the one who considered it that
That's not what that post says........it just asks if it is considered a bloom nutrient....I have already researched the shit out of it, I trust the people here more than on the forums that yell and cuss and talk bad to each other!
I always knew it as a bloom nutrient, yes. You were supposed to blast 'em with K when the time came. Then when Doc was looking for a soil mix to start with, everything had too much K already - something about mineral ratios and feeding the 'crobes and locking out other processes.
I bet the hydro guys would know.
I bet the hydro guys would know.
Are you talking about Potassium or bonemeal?
I actually know next to nothing about nutrients - just vague stuff I picked up over the years, so don't take me too seriously on this topic, heheh. I know bone meal as just one of those dozens of "natural" ingredients that people like to put in their soil. Some of the people who do that seem just as crazy as some of the hydro fans, so I tend to avoid all the recipes. All my recent education has come from trying to figure out what guys like Doc Bud and Mcloadie and BID, etc are doing.
I found this online:
"Potassium (K) activates the manufacture and movement of sugars and starches, as well as growth by cell division. Potassium leaches easily (deficiencies arise in sandy soils). Excesses may lead to deficiencies of calcium or magnesium. Potassium increases chlorophyll in foliage and helps regulate stomata openings so plants make better use of light and air. Potassium encourages strong root growth, water uptake and triggers enzymes that fight disease. Potassium is necessary during all stages of growth. It is especially important in the development of fruit. Deficiency signs of potassium: plants are the tallest and appear healthy. Older leaves mottle and yellow between veins, followed by whole leaves that turn dark yellow and die. Flower and fruit drop are common problems associated with potassium deficiency. Potassium is usually locked out by high salinity."
This is what Doc was talking about. Calcium is a lot more important in the organic process.
SativaHaze
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I thought I had commented on it first when you asked the question Mac and it's not there. I was told it mainly helped in the development of young root systems not blooming flowers.
Happy Weednsday Mc
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Good weed chron...and all!
Good Weed, Mc 
I'm making soil today.
I would have made it yesterday,
But I got all bonemealed out instead.
I'm making soil today.
I would have made it yesterday,
But I got all bonemealed out instead.
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Good Weed, Mc
I'm making soil today.
I would have made it yesterday,
But I got all bonemealed out instead.
Good weed rico, I look forward to the details on your soil making adventure. After I got so far and my understanding grew to present, I have to question things, you guys don't exactly know the whole scenario as to the bonemeal subject, so I'll fill you in. One of my protoges ran out of go bloom, so the store was closed for this reason or that. I had some of the exact product that they protégé needed, so I took it over and did a consultation...I do this a lot for different folks. A little yellowing on the lower portion of around 15 plants at the beginning of flower. This grower lost the whole crop to seeds last year, so I'm being conservative with my recommendations.....to insure a good or fair harvest....no hat tricks. Well, when the grow store opened, they went and got more of the go bloom...and the person sold em this bonemeal too, I am pissed...cuz this person is always selling shit to people who don't need the product....same store that trys to charge me 15 bucks more for two bags of dirt!....you feeling me? I have a certain amount of influence on a fair number of growers.......if a grow store plans on fuc-ing us with overinflated prices, they can expect a decrease in sales from folks once they realize whats up. I touched bases with another store...and I'm paying attention to how this facility handles me and my business....my protoges are using this facility also....and I get to see what they sell them, and what they charge. As consumers we need to reinforce the idea that good business practices will elevate your business...and your status as a human being. I might spend six dollars today.....but the 50 growers I work with might spend...well, it's easy to do the math. As the consumers of these products...WE have a huge amount of control over what we pay, and the products we want...not just what they feel like selling us.
Good on you, Mc.
The only power we have is the power we use.
Our Hydro-shop is not much more expensive than online,
but they only care about the bigger growers and when they run out of stock,
They only reorder if a big order comes in.
I have been waiting god knows how long for this Nirvana product,
I was excited by the mycos and azomite and yucca extract.
But now I'm just going traditional.
Fish, bones, potash and seaweed.
And Wool
The only power we have is the power we use.
Our Hydro-shop is not much more expensive than online,
but they only care about the bigger growers and when they run out of stock,
They only reorder if a big order comes in.
I have been waiting god knows how long for this Nirvana product,
I was excited by the mycos and azomite and yucca extract.
But now I'm just going traditional.
Fish, bones, potash and seaweed.
And Wool
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Good weed all, my plants in flower are having a rapid growth spurt...the stretch, I don't like the stretch, after an in depth conversation with loadie, we came to the conclusion that rapid growth may not be so advantageous, If they grow slower the buds should be tighter. If I need that much speed I'll grow autos....I'll focus on how to deal with this trait....if it's possible.......at any rate they are lovely and healthy.......rapid bud growth is next, I am not experiencing the "stall" that I have seen in the past....these plants are growing fast...and faster mostly!
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The next run looking lovely.....responding well to transplant...no stress!
Notice the unusual node spacing....a long space, two nodes, long space, two nodes.
The stretch
Pretty even canopy...same effect as scrog, but the foliage dosent evr get stripped, the last run was the same, except I stripped the lower foliage. These plants were kept shorter to eliminate the stress incurred by defoliation. They are at least twice as full as the last run, and it would be nice to get twice the yield.
THE POWER OF THE CONSUMER. ALMOST TURNING INTO A LOST ART. +REPS MC- Thread starter
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Thanks brokey! Ok folks, I have been researching super thrive. It was mentioned to me by a commercial grower when I first started growing and got set aside. My observations are showing that this stuff is giberillic acid and vitamin b12........same thing as my hormex rooting compound. So, my clone veg plants are getting 2 ml/gallon of water and I'll see if it makes a difference. I started using the hormex in the cloner and I'm sure it stimulates rooting. Some strains take longer to root than others, and even grow roots a little differently....my conclusions ATM are that I don't want tons of dangly roots, IDK how folks like em for hydro, but if you plant rooted cuttings in soil, the dangly roots can get broken off, so I plant them in soil when the roots are1/8-1/4 inch long. Long dangly roots CAN be planted in soil with no damage if the soil is liquefied with water, and allowed to settle around the roots. My techniques would vary if I was performing these actions on a large number of plants.
SativaHaze
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Oh you are bad, lol! You knew that's not what I meant, being the first with answer. I was just stating where I thought I remembered it being when the whole thing disappeared. Bad Spaniard, bad! What to do with brash, assuming, though I know you were pushing buttons. There is only one thing then!That was in the pond, Sati.
But yes. You were first.
Love ya brother, but sometimes it's hard to figure out if your giving me a hard time or are really being disrespectful. I'll figure you out yet though, peace my friend.
Mac, day before yesterday, not so much for heat, but because the plants were getting near 12 inches from the light cool tube, I raised it up 2ft above plants, and that Silver LA just started shooting up!!!! Holy Schmuckatelly!!! I will PM you later on matter of a concern.
The next run looking lovely.....responding well to transplant...no stress!Notice the unusual node spacing....a long space, two nodes, long space, two nodes.The stretchPretty even canopy...same effect as scrog, but the foliage dosent evr get stripped, the last run was the same, except I stripped the lower foliage. These plants were kept shorter to eliminate the stress incurred by defoliation. They are at least twice as full as the last run, and it would be nice to get twice the yield.
Mac, they are magical! Truly amazing looking and aesthetically pleasing to the eye +reps my friend. Good Weed to you Mac, hoping this day finds you and Mrs Mac in a most amazing state of minds! On the normal side of things, the most warmest, kindest regards and love to you and Mrs. Mac!!!
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