Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

[Mars Hydro]

Yes, PurpleGunRack, you will receive Reflector with 5w leds.

Does this mean that if I order the 3W Reflector series from the MarsHydro website, and choose ''Europe''(Denmark) shipping option, I will receive the 5W panels?

wait for Sara to confirm ..... but me i can say yes to your question ... Sara told us this many times

 

[Mars Hydro]

very thorough recommendation, it's ture, the company don't want to lose money, lol,I am not sure how long the company will the quality of the Old Model.

she is telling that cause the price is very low and they dont want to lost money loll

old models are very good lights

if you want to grow for real cheap, go for old model series and you will be satisfied

for an easy guideline .... use 100W (led watt, not true watt) for each square foot .......

if you have a 2X3 area for exemple (6 square feet), 2 panel of 60X5W (300W) or 1 panel of 120X5 (600W) will be very nice ....but never forget that 2 panels is better for light distribution.

60X5W (300W) "new" old model panels consume about 130W true watts each from the wall.

if your choice is a 2.5 X 2.5 foot grow tent for exemple .... you have 6.25 square foots .... you can do great in that area with a 600W old model (or 2X 300W) or with a 700W mars2 or with a 480W reflector (or 2X 240W) ... 144X5 (720w) reflector is better for that area but dont fit the tent lol (3X 240W do fit) .

keep in mind 100W (led watt) or near for each square foot and you are sure to have a good setting.

my english is horrible too dont worry lol

 

[Mars Hydro]

Fiete, first time grow under led, you will find many useful tips here. I believe you will grow as good as them. 1ft=30.48cm, so 1 square ft =929.03(30.48x30.48)square cm.

Love You Guys! I Order now to 2x300 Watt old Modell 60x5 i never grow indoor and I cant wait i saw plants with LED they growing so Damm huge i newer saw plants under the Sun so good! And the Quality from the Buds are good Bad Question sorry ;-) I have trouble under the Sun all the time the buds are Not so good Problems with Budrot when is raining etc.. Shit place in Germany


Edit: i dont now feet ore square feet in cm please

1 sq ft =30.48 cm on each side

heuuuu ....

1 square foot = 30.5 X 30.5cm .... 1 square meter = 10.8 square foots ... 1 square meter = 10 000 square cm
1 square foot = 930 square centimeter ........ 30 cm X 30 cm = 900 square cm (900, 930 or 1000 is almost the same lol)

so, i think your better option is to count in square meters or square centimeters ...... so, you can count 100W (led watt) for each 1000 square centimeter or so ....

so for a 2.5 X 2.5 foot grow tent ... it mean 75 X 75 centimeter = 5625 square centimeters ..... you need 560W of LED watts (or 600W)

oufff, i hope it helped lol

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Magic, I am so great! How does your light work?

Hi Sara! Hope you are well!

 

[FloridaSunset]

:JusHa, flexy, you are the big fan of our Ebay stores,lol. Our website has three years warranty for the moment, but we don't sell the Old Model at the website. We couldn't offer three years warranty for the Old Model.

Just curious. You say you don't sell the old model at the website - do you mean your main website or the eBay store? I ask because I've purchased 3 lights from your eBay store (1 purchase was a pair and the other a single light) from the description I thought I was buying the same light as the ones in the pair but when the single purchase light arrived it was different - no veg/flower selection or on/off switch. When I asked about it I was told it was one of the 'old style' lights, not a reflector series like the pair I purchased. I certainly would have preferred one the same as the other two and, honestly, wasn't able to tell they weren't the same since, to my best recollection, there was no mention of model number in either ad.

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Vern, the Old Model doesn't have IR, it will produce less heat than other models with the same wattage. I hope you will find the solution here, growers here are very exprienced and will offer you good advice in pratice.

Left a message on your website earlier today then thought about the forum here.

Problem I have is heat related. I have 3 of your lights (1 old style & 2 reflector - all 300W. Have been trying to use the old style one in a 2x2x4 grow tent but can not get the temp to a usable level. Even with the 4" exhaust fan and the screened view windows open the temp won't get below the upper 80s and with the windows closed the temp rises to the upper 90s.

Can you give me some suggestions on how to get the temp under control? Or let me know if you have something like a ducted hood for the light to allow it to be vented directly to the exterior of the tent?

I really need to get your lights working properly within acceptable temp limits. I aadisabled and on a limited income and bought your lights with the understanding that they were very energy efficient and very cool during operation. As a result I spent a significant portion of the money I had set aside for my medical grow on them and really don't have an option to buy something else to replace them.

I am really hoping you can offer me a solution to my problem.

Thanks in advance for your help, Vern

any other lightning setting will produce more heat anyway ..... going for another source of light is useless, since led lights are the best for heat production

im not sure what i can tell more than that ....... others may have idea for you ......

Hello FloridaSunset

All lights produce some heat so your grow area will always be higher than the ambient temperature. LEDs produce the least light for the output.

Not knowing your setup but having been to Florida a number of times, you may have options to reduce your heat without using air conditioning. If you live in a house or trailer, duct your air intake to the crawl space below your residence. The air there will be cooler because of shade and proximity to the ground.

If this is not an option, you may have to resort to air conditioning. Even a DIY cooler box made from a syrofoam cooler full of ice that your intake air passes through. Just be aware that a DIY cooler box can increase the humidity in your grow tent.

Hope this helps

Hello Vern, I'm in CA and fight the heat all summer what I have found that works is to duct the vent out the window that is blocked with foam so air only exits and control the air into the tent so there is less coming in than the fans pump out in effect create a low pressure in the tent also increase the air flow in the tent with fans I run six lights with 3 16in fans and a primary 6in exhaust and a secondary 8in boost fan and keep my temps about six degrees hotter than the house with lights on and four degrees cooler when off the lights will put out heat and you have to move air to cool them. We had a period when temps were in the 105 - 110 range and my tent went into the 90's but the plants took it but I know your humidity is higher than ours try and find a variety that will take a higher temp Good Luck

 

[Mars Hydro]

the quality of the Old Model and Reflector, MarsII is different. MarsII and Reflector has better quality in led chip, heat sink, hanging kit and casing.

I think what Sara means is the mars2 is better because it is newer. Newer tech is better... Think of iphone 1 is a good phone but iphone 5 is much better...
Old mars LED is good but mars2 is better! They won't rebuild a factory or change construction methods just for a new model light so they are all built about the same....The overall quality for all models will be about the same.
I am looking also and thinking the 'classic' mars LED is a real bargain.
But the mars 2 is also good value.
You should buy your light to fit the grow-space. I like the "reflector" series, because my space will be long and narrow, like 500mm x 2000mm. I could fit 2-3 reflector series lights end to end in that space, and grow maybe 4-8 plants. I'll be starting with 1 light for 2 plants, see how that goes. But 3-4 of the classic 300w lights would do the same job, for a bit cheaper....
I like new stuff, but I am not rich! You can't go wrong if you make sure you have your space covered, whatever light you buy....

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Colorado, we are updating website recently, now, it's OK.

Is something wrong with the website? Everything I click on gives me an error page.

----Cleared cookies, working now.

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hmm... you still can use 5'x5' as 4'x4' if the plants only cover 4'x4' area.
MarsII 1600w and 3pcs Reflector 144x5w both can cover 5'x5'. The difference lies in the draw power.
The draw power of MarsII 1600w is about 780w under 110V.
The draw power of Reflector 144x5w is about 208w under 110v with Veg on and 316w with Veg and Bloom on.
For 3pcs Reflector 144x5w, you will get 624w in total with Veg on and 948w in total with Veg and Bloom on.

3pcs Reflector 144x5w Full Spectrum will draw more watt than MarsII 1600w. The light distribution of 3pcs will be better than 1pcs.

That was a fantastic post by UncleCannabis and now I'm regretting ordering a 5x5 instead of a 4x4 Grow Tent.

Originally I was planning on filling my 5x5 with a Mars II 1600 but now that seems it might not be enough. Am I understanding correctly that I may be better off going with 3 x Reflectors 144x5s? The Mars II is 780 draw, the 3 panels would be 750 -900 draw. The 750, if I am correct is just Veg ON, 900 with VEG and BLOOM ON. 750 Should be adequate as the LED can be closer to the canopy during veg then 900 at its highest point during bloom.

Is that a correct assessment? I'm a little concerned with more heat running three panels but basements run cool in Colorado so I should be ok. The price difference is not that much between the two options, as the pricing is fantastic. Is anyone else running this setup? I tried to peruse the forum but it's a lot and search pulls up a lot of irrelevant queries. This is my first grow so I worry way too much for the sake of the plants. I just want to give them what they deserve to reach their full potential.

i have a 144x5 in my 4'x2'x5' tent and have great results, you can check out my journal in my signature if you would like to see how its doing. i would say the light covers my area very nicely and feel that it could cover a little more space but nowhere near the 6.6'x2.2' they advertise.

i think that the 1600 would do ok as ive seen them do a 4x4 very well but i think you may be pushing it with a 5x5

 

[Mars Hydro]

yes.

tyvm for the infos on old models and mars2/reflector difference Sara ... very appreciated and now this is clear

 

[Mars Hydro]

thanks for the correction. 2.2'x2.2' is the coverage at the height of 2'. Flower need lower hanging distance, the coverage will be less.

yep, so strange Sara is giving theses infos ....

2.2' X 2.2' for each 48X5W reflector is the area for veging ... 1.6 X 1.6 is the area for flowering ...

when growers ask for area they want to know it for flowering for sure ....... not veging

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi, Florida, we don't sell the Old Model at our main website. Our Ebay stores will sell the Old Model.
The pair must be Reflector with Veg and Bloom swithces. There is no on/off switches. The other one may be the Old Model. It's easy to tell the difference from the outlook between our Old Model and Reflector. The Old Model is in white color and square shape. The Reflector is in green color and some with rectangular shape. In the Ad, there is supposed to be pictures of the lights from which you can easily tell the diffences.

Just curious. You say you don't sell the old model at the website - do you mean your main website or the eBay store? I ask because I've purchased 3 lights from your eBay store (1 purchase was a pair and the other a single light) from the description I thought I was buying the same light as the ones in the pair but when the single purchase light arrived it was different - no veg/flower selection or on/off switch. When I asked about it I was told it was one of the 'old style' lights, not a reflector series like the pair I purchased. I certainly would have preferred one the same as the other two and, honestly, wasn't able to tell they weren't the same since, to my best recollection, there was no mention of model number in either ad.

 

[Fiete]

Tell us please the diffrent from both LED Chips? @Sarah the old Modell have 1 year warrenty but all lights at your ebay store have only 1 year Warrenty too....


The Reflector 96x3Watt Chips are Cheap too 165usd in €maybe 150€ but doesnt matter the Price is the same. Are the Reflector a better Option? On eBay they sell the Reflector with 500 Watt and 5 Watt Chips.



148€ for the Reflector ;-) I can send the both lights back to ebay Seller and He must send my Money back.... That is Not a Problem!

Have the Reflector switch to vege and flower?

 

[ColoradoGriz]

Hmm... you still can use 5'x5' as 4'x4' if the plants only cover 4'x4' area.
MarsII 1600w and 3pcs Reflector 144x5w both can cover 5'x5'. The difference lies in the draw power.
The draw power of MarsII 1600w is about 780w under 110V.
The draw power of Reflector 144x5w is about 208w under 110v with Veg on and 316w with Veg and Bloom on.
For 3pcs Reflector 144x5w, you will get 624w in total with Veg on and 948w in total with Veg and Bloom on.

3pcs Reflector 144x5w Full Spectrum will draw more watt than MarsII 1600w. The light distribution of 3pcs will be better than 1pcs.

Thank you Sara for the precise draw power on those reflectors. The website stated 250-300 which I thought was a ballpark. I'm pretty sure that I am going to go with three panels as soon as I calculate how much total power I am drawing from all of my equipment. Arellanobrian stated the area of coverage advertised is higher than reality but even if I can get 5 x 2 coverage on each light, I should be fine. Uncle had made a good point about reflectivity so I want to be have more than less light. Shrinking my grow area is defeating the reflective material purpose of the tent I would think. I will be contacting you soon for lights Sara.

 

[djrobmc]

I have recently purchased a 300w Mars hydro and am very impressed with the growth on my moneymaker seedlings after only 1 week , it is definitely out performing my old 400w hps

 

[SmokeyMcJoe]

Hello everyone I am new here and wanted some help to make the best choice to buy a led light, maybe you already talked about this in this thread but is so extense couldnt read it all. Have anyone tryed the mars hydro 300w against the black star 240w??? I wanted to buy the mars first but then I read a lot about how 3w Led is better than 5w and also read that mars had a really bad customer service, also saw videos of growers using blackstar 240 and mars 300 and the ones with the blackstar seems way better. Really hope you can help I dont have much money and it is a hard decision for me. Grettings from Chile and Vape up ppl! Have a great day, or night.

 

[DarkSidofMike]

i have a Lighthouse Hydro Blackstar UFO 135W since 2 years and that led light is completly useless .... i tried to use it in a 1.5 X 1.5 area, it suppose te be nice lightning (not full power but suppose to be not bad) but the result is very very bad ....... since i goes to mars hydro and i have very very good result. (i changed the 135W for a 180W mars hydro and the difference is amazing!)

so, please, forget about blackstar .... the spectrum is very bad (really too much red) and the power output is strange too.

go with mars hydro and you are sure to have good result. not blackstar, really not .... in my experience at least.

but the all new 300W from mars hydro is not as good as other lights ..... with the new 300W (60X5) old model panel you can cover 2.3 square foot maximum for each .... about 1.5 X 1.5 foot each ..... each consume about 130W

so my advise is .... go with mars2 series from mars hydro if your budget is normal and use 100W led watt for each square foot ..... a mars2 400W for exemple is perfect for 2X2 area (4 square foots) ... it consume about 190W of real power.

if your budget is low .... go with old model series but go for 2.3 square foot max for each 300W ..... or 4.6 square foot for the 600W

for reflector series ..... each 48X5 (240W) can cover 1.6 X 1.6 (2.6 square foot) for a single panel (little more than old model 300W)


all theses number are for flowering ... you can cover more for vegging.


happy growing.

Hello everyone I am new here and wanted some help to make the best choice to buy a led light, maybe you already talked about this in this thread but is so extense couldnt read it all. Have anyone tryed the mars hydro 300w against the black star 240w??? I wanted to buy the mars first but then I read a lot about how 3w Led is better than 5w and also read that mars had a really bad customer service, also saw videos of growers using blackstar 240 and mars 300 and the ones with the blackstar seems way better. Really hope you can help I dont have much money and it is a hard decision for me. Grettings from Chile and Vape up ppl! Have a great day, or night.

 

[SmokeyMcJoe]

i have a Lighthouse Hydro Blackstar UFO 135W since 2 years and that led light is completly useless .... i tried to use it in a 1.5 X 1.5 area, it suppose te be nice lightning (not full power but suppose to be not bad) but the result is very very bad ....... since i goes to mars hydro and i have very very good result.

so, please, forget about blackstar .... the spectrum is very bad (really too much red) and the power output is strange too.

go with mars hydro and you are sure to have good result. not blackstar, really not .... in my experience at least.

but the all new 300W from mars hydro is not as good as other lights ..... with the new 300W old model panel you can cover 2.3 square foot maximum for each .... about 1.5 X 1.5 foot each ..... each consume about 130W

so my advise is .... go with mars2 series from mars hydro if your budget is normal and use 100W led watt for each square foot ..... a mars2 400W for exemple is perfect for 2X2 area (4 square foots) ... it consume about 190W of real power.

if your budget is low .... go with old model series but go for 2.3 square foot max for each 300W ..... or 4.6 square foot for the 600W

for reflector series ..... each 48X5 (240W) can cover 1.6 X 1.6 (2.6 square foot) for a single panel (little more than old model 300W)


all theses number are for flowering ... you can cover more for vegging.


happy growing.

Thank you mate for your reply . I got a little bit lost about the new and old model of mars hydro. So you say buying the mars 400w would be the best option? (already thought about paying a little more to get better results). I dont know anything about reflectors I will check that onlyne later. Thanks again for your answer! Have a great night or day.

 

[DarkSidofMike]

yes, if the money is not all .... go for mars2 or relfector series ... me i better like mars2 than reflector cause of the spectrum (reflectors have little more blue and white) .... and it is always better to use more smaller panels than only 1 big .... for light distribution

Thank you mate for your reply . I got a little bit lost about the new and old model of mars hydro. So you say buying the mars 400w would be the best option? (already thought about paying a little more to get better results). I dont know anything about reflectors I will check that onlyne later. Thanks again for your answer! Have a great night or day.

 

[DarkSidofMike]

yes, old model series is really confusing for most ......

there is the NEW old models

and there is the OLD old models loll


OLD old models are with 3W chips and are of medium quality .... there is 3 OLD old models panels ... 180W (60X3) UFO (105W true watt), 300W (100X3) panel (170 true watts) and 600W (200X3) panel (340 true watts)

NEW old models are with 5W chips and are of bad quality ...... there is 2 NEW old model panels .... 300W (60X5) panel (130W true watt) and 600W (120X5) panel (260 true watt)

OLD old model are medium quality but are no more available (180W still i think) .... NEW old model are bad quality but still enought good to use it cause the price is amazing. you just need to use little less coverage for each and keep in mind they may not last as longer as others.

and finally ... the 300W and 600W NEW old models are little smalers in dimension than the OLD old models 300/600 panels

mars2 and reflectors series are good quality