Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

[Mars Hydro]

Rosen given, fragrance in hand.

Thanks again Friends.

It's good to see that my post is proving to be useful to the visitors of this thread as I had hoped.

BBQ, do I miss something

I think a lot of the people here need to thank you for the time you spent on your post and that you made it simple too follow and understand it should be made available for future reference and not get lost among the many posts on this site.

Now my only question for you is how about the BBQ? Ribs, Brisket ,Pulled Pork or Yes to any and all

 

[Mars Hydro]

Better to order at our website, for it's cheaper. Ebay and Amazon will charge commission fee so the price there is more.

#SmokeSara,

What is the best way of ordering? Amazon, eBay, website etc..

Website. Use code CoFinest at check out for a 420 discount.

Thanks very much for the heads-up, appreciate it.

 

[ColoradoGriz]

Is something wrong with the website? Everything I click on gives me an error page.

----Cleared cookies, working now.

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Fiete, as you've checked on Ebay, the price of our Old Model is low. With the low cost, I am not sure how long we will keep the same quality as before. The Old Model can not equal our MarsII and Reflector series in quality. Personally, I advise you to choose MarsII and Reflector for better quality in the long term.

hi, someone told me the Old Modell 60x5 Watt Mars LED are a very good Light what are your thoughts?? On Ebay now for 155€ for 2x300 Old Modell are the Decission good to buy them ore is the Quality not so good and the Reflector ore the MARS2 are a better Option??? I thought 2 x 300 Watt are Better than only 1 Mars2...

Please Help me by my Decsission!!! Thx Guys

the classica 100x3w has changed to 60x5w. 100x3w is not available now. The dirty competition on Ebay has push us too hard to keep the quality.
I agree that it's just what you feel with the tool. From the manufacturer side, we know how we make the led lights and their difference in quality, but I have also seen that there are growers who love our Old Model. Maybe it's true. It depends a lot on how you feel it.

I have one 300 watt mars classic 100x3 and i love it, there hard to find next to it i have a off brand 300 watt cause it has the same 100x3 and i love it , its perfect for a grow and being 2 lights with light hangers i can raise and lower them independently when my girls get in bloom by then i will have saved enough for a 600 watt mars light to the room for a total of 1200 watts , i like what i hear about the reflector series and that with the added power switch , veg switch and bloom switch plus the proven ability of mars lights you really cant go wrong, one note 3 watt leds have better mixture and thats why i think the new cree leds have dimmable features , its really just what you feel you can do with the tool. MARS LIGHTS RULE

Fiete, there is no definite answer to bad or good quality. It's a comparision result. Reflector series has better quality than the Old Model.

Are the Quality from the Lights are all the Same good??? I road a komment from Sara and she said the Quality from the Old Modell are not good this is what she said! I dont want Bad Quality stuff....

Here on ebay are the Reflector for 182 500 Watt Reflector


2x300 Watt Old Modell ore the 500 Watt Reflector i dont now Please Help me.....

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Fiete, as you've checked on Ebay, the price of our Old Model is low. With the low cost, I am not sure how long we will keep the same quality as before. The Old Model can not equal our MarsII and Reflector series in quality. Personally, I advise you to choose MarsII and Reflector for better quality in the long term.

hi, someone told me the Old Modell 60x5 Watt Mars LED are a very good Light what are your thoughts?? On Ebay now for 155€ for 2x300 Old Modell are the Decission good to buy them ore is the Quality not so good and the Reflector ore the MARS2 are a better Option??? I thought 2 x 300 Watt are Better than only 1 Mars2...

Please Help me by my Decsission!!! Thx Guys

the classical 100x3w has changed to 60x5w. 100x3w is not available now. The dirty competition on Ebay has push us too hard to keep the quality.
I agree that it's just what you feel with the tool. From the manufacturer side, we know how we make the led lights and their difference in quality, but I have also seen that there are growers who love our Old Model. Maybe it's true. It depends a lot on how you feel it.

I have one 300 watt mars classic 100x3 and i love it, there hard to find next to it i have a off brand 300 watt cause it has the same 100x3 and i love it , its perfect for a grow and being 2 lights with light hangers i can raise and lower them independently when my girls get in bloom by then i will have saved enough for a 600 watt mars light to the room for a total of 1200 watts , i like what i hear about the reflector series and that with the added power switch , veg switch and bloom switch plus the proven ability of mars lights you really cant go wrong, one note 3 watt leds have better mixture and thats why i think the new cree leds have dimmable features , its really just what you feel you can do with the tool. MARS LIGHTS RULE

Fiete, there is no definite answer to bad or good quality. It's a comparision result. Reflector series has better quality than the Old Model.

Are the Quality from the Lights are all the Same good??? I road a komment from Sara and she said the Quality from the Old Modell are not good this is what she said! I dont want Bad Quality stuff....

Here on ebay are the Reflector for 182 500 Watt Reflector

2x300 Watt Old Modell ore the 500 Watt Reflector i dont now Please Help me.....

 

[MagicMediwana]

Hi Sara! Hope you are well!

 

[Mars Hydro]

it seems a heated discussion here about the Old Model. First, flexy, thank you very much for thorough explanation, while I need to add some points.

1. About the led chip. The led chip come from the same company, Epistar, but the 5w leds of the Old Model is a different series than that of the Reflector and MarsII. Just as Cree, the same led chip has different price for different quality and lumen. The 5w of MarsII and Reflector has higher quality and lumen.
2.About the lamp material. The lamp material is also different. Reflector and MarsII has higher quality of casing, hanging kit and heatsink than the Old Model.


As you said, flexy, Reflector has switchable and reflection function, while the Old Model doesn't have, but the price of the Old Model is very attractive. It's truly not an easy choice.

Hello, if you ask me - the "old model" 60x5W is like a smaller Mars II except that the small square Mars II has 80 LEDs, additional IR and the "old model" 60 LEDs. But it seems to me that both, the Mars II and the 60x5W have 5W LEDs so both should have the advantage of having better penetration, since both have the same LEDs.

In other words: If you're on a budget the 60x5W look like a good deal to me. I got two of them and I can't complain about quality or whatever...both lights work nicely.

I personally also think that having two lights gives more flexibility how you place them as opposed to one light. (I mean you can also place them side by side of course, at the price they're sold right now on ebay you can buy two or three or whatever ). From that point of view I think that 2x or 3x "old model" 60x5W make even more sense than, buying a larger Mars II. But that's just my opinion.

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she said the Quality from the Old Modell are not good
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I wouldn't call them "military quality" but they're ok for the price, I paid €100 for one and this included express DHL shipping (!) from the UK. Maybe the Mars II etc. have better heatsinks and cooling. Possible.

As for the reflector lights, while reflectors sound nice and especially the option to switch them to "vegging mode" with less LEDs active they have "only" 3W LEDs. The question here is whether 5W LEDs would be better as opposed to 3W LEDs with reflector. People generally say 5W LEDs have better penetration. So ultimately, both types, 3W LEDs with reflector and 5W LEDs without reflector may come out about the same, in my opinion.

Edit: If you're from Germany and they have stock in the German warehouse (which I don't know) it should be possible to get the old model 60x5W really cheap without paying a lot for shipping. Wow..it seems they even have free shipping if you order in Germany.

 

[randy355]

Left a message on your website earlier today then thought about the forum here.

Problem I have is heat related. I have 3 of your lights (1 old style & 2 reflector - all 300W. Have been trying to use the old style one in a 2x2x4 grow tent but can not get the temp to a usable level. Even with the 4" exhaust fan and the screened view windows open the temp won't get below the upper 80s and with the windows closed the temp rises to the upper 90s.

Can you give me some suggestions on how to get the temp under control? Or let me know if you have something like a ducted hood for the light to allow it to be vented directly to the exterior of the tent?

I really need to get your lights working properly within acceptable temp limits. I aadisabled and on a limited income and bought your lights with the understanding that they were very energy efficient and very cool during operation. As a result I spent a significant portion of the money I had set aside for my medical grow on them and really don't have an option to buy something else to replace them.

I am really hoping you can offer me a solution to my problem.

Thanks in advance for your help, Vern

Hello Vern, I'm in CA and fight the heat all summer what I have found that works is to duct the vent out the window that is blocked with foam so air only exits and control the air into the tent so there is less coming in than the fans pump out in effect create a low pressure in the tent also increase the air flow in the tent with fans I run six lights with 3 16in fans and a primary 6in exhaust and a secondary 8in boost fan and keep my temps about six degrees hotter than the house with lights on and four degrees cooler when off the lights will put out heat and you have to move air to cool them. We had a period when temps were in the 105 - 110 range and my tent went into the 90's but the plants took it but I know your humidity is higher than ours try and find a variety that will take a higher temp Good Luck

 

[Mars Hydro]

coverage is the first thing to consider.

Really good stuff comes from these lights just get enough power to the plants... What room size is the first thing than you know about how much light you need then from there the reflector, or the mars 2 lights is the way to go.

 

[Mars Hydro]

thank you, Brainzfuxed, Reflector 96x3w will cover 4.4'x2.2' at the height of 2'. It will work for your grow room.

I just got a 96x3 for my 3x2 area because of heat concerns. Will this work??

 

[Mars Hydro]

order from website will charge extra commission fee. The 5w leds of the Old Model is not the same as that of MarsII and Reflector, quality and lumen are different.

now that they have the same 5w chips the classic is just a mars II 300, so 2 of them would be approximately
33.3% more grow power than mar II 400
the price is excellent i think that comes to about 85 USD per
also having the two panels gives more freedom for some adjustment

now after all that i must admit i am a person of fear and only want to order from sara or mars hydro site
i trust her and have never used ebay i hope whatever you decide it is a great success
take care and good luck

Ha, flexy, you are the big fan of our Ebay stores,lol. Our website has three years warranty for the moment, but we don't sell the Old Model at the website. We couldn't offer three years warranty for the Old Model.

marshydro, marshydro-de, marshydro-uk, marshydro-au are all legit, it's them. So look at the seller name. Just be aware that buying from ebay only has one year warranty, while there is a longer warranty if you buy off their site. (What their warranty actually entitles I don't know). TBH, looking at the price to get a 60x5W for like €70 I can smoke the warranty in a pipe and could care less Ultimately, just check your budget and your grow room size etc. to see what light would be best for you.

 

[ColoradoGriz]

That was a fantastic post by UncleCannabis and now I'm regretting ordering a 5x5 instead of a 4x4 Grow Tent.

Originally I was planning on filling my 5x5 with a Mars II 1600 but now that seems it might not be enough. Am I understanding correctly that I may be better off going with 3 x Reflectors 144x5s? The Mars II is 780 draw, the 3 panels would be 750 -900 draw. The 750, if I am correct is just Veg ON, 900 with VEG and BLOOM ON. 750 Should be adequate as the LED can be closer to the canopy during veg then 900 at its highest point during bloom.

Is that a correct assessment? I'm a little concerned with more heat running three panels but basements run cool in Colorado so I should be ok. The price difference is not that much between the two options, as the pricing is fantastic. Is anyone else running this setup? I tried to peruse the forum but it's a lot and search pulls up a lot of irrelevant queries. This is my first grow so I worry way too much for the sake of the plants. I just want to give them what they deserve to reach their full potential.

 

[DarkSidofMike]

tyvm for the infos on old models and mars2/reflector difference Sara ... very appreciated and now this is clear

 

[Mars Hydro]

eh... I guess I have made it again, sorry to make you unhappy. I don't mean it.

Hey Guys, my englisch is Not so good i am very Happy you Help me ;-)


I am from Germany and no price for Shipping ;-)

I dont have a tent now but i Order very soon i dont now which size are good for the LED???

Hm the Reflector have also 5 Watt Chips!


I thought the New 60x5 are better than 100x3.... I dont now what i Order ;-( Sarah make me unhappy because she say the old Modell are Not good Quality lights...

 

[Mars Hydro]

grow result is a good way to measure the light performace.LED technology is new and improving. The advice from growers is always the reference standard for our light development.

Look guys i dont work for mars but mars lights have proved themselves now when i wanted to get into LED growing i went many years back in my research to 1watt led they wernt so good 3 watt led are excellent then the 5 watt leds came out and wernt as good but now they improved the 5 watt leds and there just as good now they have COB lights chip on board which some say there the best but the proof is in the grow.. Now those 300watt mars 2 lights i have not seen a grow with them but if you undecied look a youtube for a grow result, again i got 1 300 watt mars classic 3 watt and i think its killer but if your buying a new light the mars 600 watt or better and the reflector series are the best cause i dont think you can find the 100x3 classics anymore..... Ive seen grows with most mars light except the 300 watt 5 watt led models so in time that model will have to prove itself just remember for good resin production and yield get as much light as you can, i seen a earlier post on a specific reflector series model your answer is YES its a great light for a small grow or scrog

 

[arellanobrian]

i have a 144x5 in my 4'x2'x5' tent and have great results, you can check out my journal in my signature if you would like to see how its doing. i would say the light covers my area very nicely and feel that it could cover a little more space but nowhere near the 6.6'x2.2' they advertise.

i think that the 1600 would do ok as ive seen them do a 4x4 very well but i think you may be pushing it with a 5x5

That was a fantastic post by UncleCannabis and now I'm regretting ordering a 5x5 instead of a 4x4 Grow Tent.

Originally I was planning on filling my 5x5 with a Mars II 1600 but now that seems it might not be enough. Am I understanding correctly that I may be better off going with 3 x Reflectors 144x5s? The Mars II is 780 draw, the 3 panels would be 750 -900 draw. The 750, if I am correct is just Veg ON, 900 with VEG and BLOOM ON. 750 Should be adequate as the LED can be closer to the canopy during veg then 900 at its highest point during bloom.

Is that a correct assessment? I'm a little concerned with more heat running three panels but basements run cool in Colorado so I should be ok. The price difference is not that much between the two options, as the pricing is fantastic. Is anyone else running this setup? I tried to peruse the forum but it's a lot and search pulls up a lot of irrelevant queries. This is my first grow so I worry way too much for the sake of the plants. I just want to give them what they deserve to reach their full potential.

 

[DarkSidofMike]

yep, so strange Sara is giving theses infos ....

2.2' X 2.2' for each 48X5W reflector is the area for veging ... 1.6 X 1.6 is the area for flowering ...

when growers ask for area they want to know it for flowering for sure ....... not veging

 

[Mars Hydro]

2pcs are better than 1pcs in light distribution. I wonder what it will be like with many many UFO above. Probably every child will be happy, no partiality.

i have 2 "old" old model 100X3W in a 2X3 area ...... they are working very good and for me i think this is clearly better to have 2 or more units than just 1 big unit .... better light distribition. and light distribution is a big problem for led panels.

if you have a low budget .... go for the 60X5W panels and you will be satisfied

if you have a big budget ..... go for mars2 series


personaly .... for my 2X3 area ..... i dont want to have only 1 big unit, even if mars2 are better .... i really really prefer 2 units.


i have too a mars2 400W for a 2X2 area .... it work good .... but i feel the unit is too small and i would prefer 2 smaller ones ..... my result are very good, but i can see that on the edge of the walls, plants are clearly having less lighning than my other area with 2 panels.

in my mind ..... the perfect setting would be a 100W UFO for each square foot (30cmX30cm) ..... but mars hydro dont have 100W UFO, unfortunatly .... they have 180W UFOs (60X3) and this is perfect for a 40cmX40cm (1.7 square foot) area each

in my mind, the perfect setting would be many many many UFOs everywhere (or maybe many 60X5) .... but a lot of units is very expensive at the end .....

 

[Mars Hydro]

I don't recommend COB. The technology of COB remains to be improved.
5w has better penetration, but the coverage of 60x5w will be smaller than 100x3w.

Well I realized just today that the "newer" old-model with the 5W LEDs are basically not THAT different from the Mars II, or if there are any differences I don't think they're major, to be honest. If I had a big budget I would def. not buy the Mars II but rather get some COB lights.

I agree that with more lights you're better and more flexible, that's why I said above that IMHO 2x 60x5W is better than one large Mars II.

It is my understanding that lights with 5W LEDs are "better" than the 3W LED lights, this is what I read a few times. But so or so, I dont think there is a *major* difference between 100x3 and 60x5

yes, that's the point.

i will never buy a COB (chip on board) panel ..... cause if only 1 led chip is burning, the entire unit is down ....... not for me

The heat sink, casing and hanging kit of the Old Model has lower quality than that of Reflector and MarsII. We have to make like that because of the low cost. The Old Model doesn't have IR leds.

I think the old model has a lower quality heat sink, and doesn't have any Infrared LEDs on the panel.

 

[Mars Hydro]

The led chip of the Old Model is not the same. Dark, you hit the point. The price is different, the led chip is from the same company but with different quality. MarsII and Reflector's led chip has higher quality.

nobody really know if 60X5W old models are using the same chips as mars2 series .... i dont think so ... cause the price is really different

so, i dont think we can call the old model 60X5W a smaller version of the mars2 unit ...... no, mars2 are better quality and the led chips are not the same i think

maybe Sara can tell us if 60X5W old model are using the same led chips as 80X5W mars2 ..........

Hah, now you know it.

if the difference beetween "new" old model and mars2 series is ONLY the heat sink and infrared ..... wow, forget about mars2 and go for the "new" old models 60X5 or 120X5 gang!

i cant wait to know it from Sara ....