Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

[randy355]

Or for the best change possible they could just scrap the remotes altogether

It's a bit of a case of 'I told you so' for the older followers of this thread, and not in a smug way. There were no issues found with the sun series yet MH insisted on stepping into the higher priced light arena by adding all the bells and whistles which few wanted and not enough actual light. For me it's been a bit of an eye opener as I was always convinced that MH took their customers wants and needs into consideration yet I've already had to buy one light elsewhere (sorry Sarah) as I want IR in my spectrum and I just do not want or need that bloody remote. Not many did, and people stated (yourself included if I remember rightly) that within months we would have faults and issues regarding these remotes. The issues are here already, and there's still a way to go before any hardware faults should start appearing.

Sarah, please arrange something so that these Cree lights can be purchased without the remote, I'll supplement my own IR and UV but I don't want to pay extra for things that I don't need. The sooner you can do this the better for me personally, as at the moment and price range the Pro series has nothing at all to offer in itself let alone against any competitor

I have to agree with Kriaze the new lights have shown why most other manufactures of programmable grow lights have made the controls a part of the case and if they use a remote it is limited to intensity adjustment not programming.

There are times when most of us can't check our plants everyday and it is important we can trust our equipment to do its job recently I was unable to care for my plants and with Dumb Lights and $4 analog timers they spent almost four weeks running on their own with only water being added and the only bad thing was I now have 6ft plants and some got a bit of light burn but the main thing is everything worked.

Now with Flyboys tests showing the lights spectrum is not as advertised it will be interesting to see how Mars handles all this

 

[Stoney Roads]

I won't lie part of the reason I got from Mars was the price and Spectrum for the price but it is seeming that is not the case. But I will also say results speak for themselves. Maybe I think they are good because I have never used any other led and a MH/HPS. It is never good to miss lead customers either way. I am happy with both my Mars leds the 60x5 300 old model and the Mars ll 1200 with veg and bloom switchs

 

[Niknaks]

How long does it take to receive a Tracking # from these guys after making a purchase?

 

[Glitch911]

How long does it take to receive a Tracking # from these guys after making a purchase?

Usually a day. Depends on where you bought from.

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[Gnarl E Green]

I won't lie part of the reason I got from Mars was the price and Spectrum for the price but it is seeming that is not the case. But I will also say results speak for themselves. Maybe I think they are good because I have never used any other led and a MH/HPS. It is never good to miss lead customers either way. I am happy with both my Mars leds the 60x5 300 old model and the Mars ll 1200 with veg and bloom switchs

Although it's great that Flyboy has provided us with food for thought, let's keep things in perspective. Most of us had no clue about any of the technical aspects of these lights. WE came to this thread hoping to find an LED light we could afford that would give us good results and judging from the all the pictures and grow journals I have seen I think most of us can say we acheived what we set out to accomplish in the beginning.

As an added bonus we have been exposed to great growers who have shared their knowledge and our understanding has evolved greatly since we began our quest to be better growers. At the same time Mars Hydro has also been evolving as they also learn from their test growers and forum comments. I think that Mars will continue to embrace our input and adjust accordingly as they have from the beginning of this thread.

I took the time recently to read Dennise's grow journals from the beginning and saw her chrysalis from a noobie with a million questions thirsting for knowledge to an accomplished grower with great results and now she is dispensing advice and sharing with others. She is just one of many fine people here on who have been so helpful.

It's great that Flyboy has been willing to share what he has learned with both Mars Hydro and it's customers and I will be seeking out his advice in the future when I am ready to move up to a larger more productive set up. Some one in a state with more relaxed laws and unlimited space and finances could surely make good use of all of the Technical Knowledge Flyboy provides. Many of us find ourselves just hoping to stay under the radar and keep the gestapo from kicking our door in while medicating ourselves and friends to the best of our ability. Thanks to Mars Hydro and the helpful fellow growers here I have been able to do that.

Sara, I think Mars Hydro should make the best use of Flyboy's equipment and knowledge and make him a tester and possibly put him on the payroll. In the future you should consider not releasing a product for sale until it has been fully tested and all the bugs have been worked out.

Happy Growing to us all in the New Year coming and may our crops flourish as we continue to evolve as growers.

 

[Gnarl E Green]

Luv it! Lol...
Maybe they will do that and we can upgrade to the new style remotes for FREE!

Hand delivered by your favorite Martian?

 

[CatfishKnight]

Well put Oh King Gnarl... We are all Knights of the Realm of Mars Pro Kingdom. May we all learn from each other the Wisdom and Knowledge we all can share at the Round Table, I Mean the Mars Pro Forum.

Although it's great that Flyboy has provided us with food for thought, let's keep things in perspective. Most of us had no clue about any of the technical aspects of these lights. WE came to this thread hoping to find an LED light we could afford that would give us good results and judging from the all the pictures and grow journals I have seen I think most of us can say we acheived what we set out to accomplish in the beginning.

As an added bonus we have been exposed to great growers who have shared their knowledge and our understanding has evolved greatly since we began our quest to be better growers. At the same time Mars Hydro has also been evolving as they also learn from their test growers and forum comments. I think that Mars will continue to embrace our input and adjust accordingly as they have from the beginning of this thread.

I took the time recently to read Dennise's grow journals from the beginning and saw her chrysalis from a noobie with a million questions thirsting for knowledge to an accomplished grower with great results and now she is dispensing advice and sharing with others. She is just one of many fine people here on who have been so helpful.

It's great that Flyboy has been willing to share what he has learned with both Mars Hydro and it's customers and I will be seeking out his advice in the future when I am ready to move up to a larger more productive set up. Some one in a state with more relaxed laws and unlimited space and finances could surely make good use of all of the Technical Knowledge Flyboy provides. Many of us find ourselves just hoping to stay under the radar and keep the gestapo from kicking our door in while medicating ourselves and friends to the best of our ability. Thanks to Mars Hydro and the helpful fellow growers here I have been able to do that.

Sara, I think Mars Hydro should make the best use of Flyboy's equipment and knowledge and make him a tester and possibly put him on the payroll. In the future you should consider not releasing a product for sale until it has been fully tested and all the bugs have been worked out.

Happy Growing to us all in the New Year coming and may our crops flourish as we continue to evolve as growers.

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hi Batcountry, the price differs from location as the light will ship from China. You can send an email to me. The email address is info@mars-hydro.com Just tell me you are Batcountry from 420.

Hello SmokeSara I was wondering how much the Pro Epistar and Cree lights are? I really want to grow with LED lights. Thanks

 

[Mars Hydro]

The dream will come true one day.

I really wish I could get a light assembly based on 5w cree x 96 !!! w/out remote but veg/flower ability via switches if wanted for a price that makes sense. I';d like 2 for my my little 2x4 flower room.
O well that's a PIPE dream , I need programmable timers but still dont need no stinkin remote. LoL

 

[Mars Hydro]

you will be our lifelong customer once you buy our lights.

That is awesome. Makes me feel even better about being a customer

 

[plugged]

Do ya think the plant will respond to ramp up and ramp down ? I know it responds to on full tilt at 6pm and off at 6am ! the buds grow GUD I cut them, I grow more LoL

 

[Mars Hydro]

the light is ready, where is the plant?

My veg light is installed and ready to go. Mars hydro 300 watt. Old model. Waiting on my blue mystic and mars II 400watt to be 100% ready for this new grow.

 

[Mars Hydro]

there are a lot. I am so happy to see you have a good harvest.

Tonight I started taking down the ripe colas on one of my three C99 plants, the bottoms will be left for another 5-7 days to ripen up a bit. I'm very happy with the quality and quality from this plant at this stage, I've grown this strain under HPS and it is much denser and frostier this time around. LOVE my MarsII 900's even more now The resin production is absolutely insane, the trimmings are going to make for some killer bubble hash.

Here's some pics, all of what is seen is from one Female Seeds C99 plant. Once again, any guesses on what this plant will yield dry?:

 

[Glitch911]

the light is ready, where is the plant?

Waiting on seeds from other countries.

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[Mars Hydro]

Hi Max, I am truly sorry for this. Every year during Holiday season in the winter, the stock always goes out very quickly. I appreciate it very much you have confidence in our products. The 2'3"x2'3" grow tent will restock on 12, January in UK warehouse. It will be worth your waiting.

Hello Sara and all following the Mars forum,

Yesterday I took the plunge for my first ever grow tent and light and placed an order. The information on here hare has been fantastic and helped me decide on Mars Hydro as the supplier. Alas, there's been a little hiccup with the plans. The 2'4" tents are out of stock and they aren't back in stock until next month. They have great customer service and have offered 3 options.. a refund, a bigger tent for a little more, wait for the small one to come back in stock.

I don't want to go for a bigger tent as the 2'4" will serve my needs... I'm not going to be selling my crop, 2 plants will be plenty and I have limited space where it will go. Plus I don't want to invest in more LED's to cover a bigger tent. Not that the electricity will cost much - I have solar panels that produce 3.6Kwh on a good day. Dull winter days still average 900wh during daylight. But I digress... I think my real choices are now 1. Take the refund and buy a tent elsewhere 2. Wait for the tent to come back in stock.

I'm veering towards 2 because I've not seen many (if any) reviews of the small Mars LED & tent combo. Plus it gives me more time to learn and prepare for my first ever grow. I've still got soil and nutes to consider.

Sara, do you have any idea when the small tent will be back in stock please? I need to let you guys know what option I'll be taking.

Max

 

[Mars Hydro]

thanks for this heads-up, drdancan. We haven't considered about this situation. If electricity suddenly goes out and come back again, you don't need to set the program again, but must send the mode to the light, so the light will run according to the program.

Long time reader and owner of two of the reflector series lights. Personally I do not want any light that is digitally controlled for the same reason I don't use digital timers. If you live in an area of the country that tends to have electrical glitches then your settings disappear and the light or timer is simply off until you intervene and turn it back on or reprogram the device.

If using an analog/mechanical timer along with leds that have no switches or the analog boom/veg switches and the electricity fails for a few seconds, minutes, or hours when it comes back on the lights will be working. Yes the timer will need to be reset to the correct time but your plants will only be in darkness for the duration of the outage. Most outages in my area are very short. Just enough to have to reset every digital clock in the house. I too would like to own one of the new cob lights but not until a "fool proof" version with analog controls is made available.

 

[Mars Hydro]

yes, the total draw power of Epistar320 is 720~750w while Cree256 is 640~660w.

So cob led is better than just led? If the pro is cob than I want one lol. Looks like after new years I'll be getting the epistar 320. If I can afford I will get the CREE 256 but I feel the pro 320 is more power.

 

[Mars Hydro]

I think and hope so.

I pulled 8 oz dried in a 2x2 with 6 42 watt cfls with random bag seed. I think the mars hydro can out preform cfl. Yeilds should be stellar.

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[Mars Hydro]

haha, Max... You will achieve good result in the new year.

Thanks Sara, I've been following journals and learning. Apparently the tent is out of stock until 12th January. I'll try to wait for that because I wanted to use the Mars tent and LED combination... but that's a looooong time to wait *impatient* ;-) Cover your eyes now... I may have to get a different tent *looks shocked*.

Ok, you can open your eyes now

Oh, I can only hope to be half as good as some of these guys. No pressure at all!

Max

 

[Mars Hydro]

WooHoo, LEDCanuck, I couldn't wait to know your dry weight. It may be another record.

I'm hoping so, and this is along the lines of what I am thinking. I used to get 2-2.5 ounces per plant with a 5 week veg under HPS in soil. Lots of different factors this time around, most of which should increase yield: 9 week veg, flood and drain hydro, LED lighting, etc. I've taken a couple of years off growing before jumping in with the Mars LEDs, so I'm a little rusty with my predicting, but I figure 2.5ish ounces has already been chopped off each of the 2 plants I have harvested, with another ounce left behind on each plant to ripen up some more.

Proof will be in the final dry weigh-in, but I can vouch that these MarsII 900's can grow some large, dense, chunky buds. I ran my lights at 16-18" above the canopy through all of flowering and the C99 buds are denser than the last time I grew this strain under HPS.