Magnus8's Coco Coir Big Bud & Pineapple Express, First Grow Ever! Grow Journal

[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

1) you change the solution once a week. If you can cover your reservoir with a lid to keep light out it will allow you to keep your nutrients longer before changing out.

2) PPM meter auto calibrates so you just pop it in your resvervoir to check. You are in early stages of veg so your ppm should be around 300-500. Some plants/strains have higher and lower feeding demands but generally speaking for early veg that's the range you're looking at. You can gauge by your nutrient chart or looking at the bottle feed instructions, usually you want to go lower then what they recommend but again all depends on plants depends. You can add/lower ppm levels by judging nutrient deficiencies.

3) PH should be checked once a day, if you're home all day then I would check twice. when using more nutrients down the road your PH levels can quickly change. I had mine go from 5.8 to 7.5 in one day. I would say for coco 5.8 is the perfect balance give or take .1-.2 each way will be fine. make sure your PH pen gets calibrated every couple of days if you do frequent checks because even a couple of days without calibration can give you incorrect readings if you're using the pen often.

4) NEVER give them just water, always feed feed feed! Once a month you should top feed with a low nutrient solution 200-300ppm to flush out any buildup of salts in your coco mix, other then that coco always needs nutrients each time they are fed. at this point I would feed them once or twice a day, once they really establish then 3-4. You will get the hang of it over time as you get to know how your plants react to everything.




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Thanks for all this, Kush. You're really wonderful.

I was asking about the water feeding because the lady at the hydro store where I buy my stuff said to feed only water for a "couple of days" in between changing of solutions. But I trust you more.

 

[kushnoj27]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

this is the nutrient chart I have for the nutrients I use. It gives the PPM/EC requirements on there relating to each stage of growth - that is the general guideline I use and adjust as needed.


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[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I'm beginning to get concerned. Seriously concerned.

My plants just don't seem to be growing properly. And please don't just placate me by telling me they're doing just fine. I've looked at so many pics of other grows this week to try to compare my plants to other plants of the same age, and mine are short, squat and bushy. Other plants of the same age are much taller. Much taller. And rather than being bushy, their growth is spread out over a couple of feet of stalk. Mine are growing low to the ground, and the stalks aren't growing long at all. Sure, they seem to have the same number of nodes, but those nodes are not spread out over the length of a long, leggy (in a good way) plant. They are close together, and I mean really, really close together.

What is wrong? I know I fucked up in the very beginning by not having the heat high enough in their closet. I'll admit that. And then I had that problem with that bit of light burn, but I caught that quite quickly. Still, they seem to have been harmed by these two events really badly, and I'm paying the price even now for that.

I'm not sure what to do. And I know I probably cannot do anything. If they are going to not grow, then they're going to not grow.

I know that plants give a stretch when they get into flower, but not this big of a stretch, even I know that. And if you don't believe me, then take a good look at the pics I posted just 2 days ago. Those plants are in their SIXTH week of vegetative growth! Six weeks! And they look like they're 2, maybe 2 and a half weeks old.

I'm just so bummed.

 

[rideouts]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Do you have a pic, sounds like your light is to close to your girls.
I have grown befor and had my light to close. Plants seemed fine, just were not growing. My lights were so close that little girls nodes were at something like 5 or 6 nodes and a 3 inch tall plant.

Remember plants Move towards the light, adjust there own angles. And grow towards it. If it dosnt have a reason to stretch out, well why would she

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[Scrogdawg]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

To much nitrogen can cause them to go a very deep green and stunt the growth. I haven't looked back at your nutrient schedule, could that be an issue? As rideouts says, lights to close could also be a simple fix.

Heres a picture from Dec. 30th of a White Widow I have. It was at 6 weeks then and was getting overdosed with Nitrogen.
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[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! -

Do you have a pic, sounds like your light is to close to your girls.
I have grown befor and had my light to close. Plants seemed fine, just were not growing. My lights were so close that little girls nodes were at something like 5 or 6 nodes and a 3 inch tall plant.

Remember plants Move towards the light, adjust there own angles. And grow towards it. If it dosnt have a reason to stretch out, well why would she

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Thanks so much, Rideouts. I appreciate the reply.

The light is exactly 32 inches from the top of the plants. Problem is, however, that I cannot move the light any higher because of the top of the tent and I cannot move the plants any lower because of the top of the flood and drain system.

I think it may be another problem. I think I forgot to change out my nutrition last week. I checked on my calendar where I keep notes of that stuff and there's no mention of me getting them fresh nutrition last weekend. If that is the case, then they haven't had fresh nutrients in two freakin' weeks! Egads! No wonder they aren't growing right now... Jeez, you really do learn with your first grow. Last weekend I was so bloody sick with the flu, with my back with everything it seemed. And I think I just forgot to do it.

I'll be getting some fresh water in here tomorrow afternoon when my landlady comes home (I get all my drinking water and fresh water either from her or I have to buy it from Vegreville) and I can change out my nutrients then. My new pH meter came in the mail just the other day and this'll be the first time I get to use it on her water. The last time I changed nutes I used water I had purchased from Vegreville. My landlady has well water, much better than ours. I wouldn't feed my water to the dogs, and I don't, either.

So tomorrow I'll give them new nutes and fresh water and I'll report back here whether that helps or not.

Also, I'll be installing my scrog either tonight or tomorrow probably. The plants will be a the same height, but they won't get any higher so the light won't be an issue for us. As the plants get older they'll be wanting more and more light, and I can move the light down accordingly if needed. But they will stay on the same level, about 3 feet from the ground.

All in all, I think it will work out. This burst of new nutes will invigorate their growth again and I'll be pushing that new growth under the net of the scrog. And keep going from there.

And I'm NOT going to forget to change out my freakin' nutes again, that's for sure.

Thanks, Rideouts, again. Sorry for alerting you to what amounts to my own stupidity. Not really stupidity. I was terribly sick last weekend, so I guess I could be forgiven. Just not forgiven by my plants. I don't think they'll ever forgive me. And I've definitely decided to vegitate for at least 10 weeks in the hopes that they gain some momentum in growth that their other cousins on the site seem to have garnered in their homes.

 

[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

To much nitrogen can cause them to go a very deep green and stunt the growth. I haven't looked back at your nutrient schedule, could that be an issue? As rideouts says, lights to close could also be a simple fix.

Heres a picture from Dec. 30th of a White Widow I have. It was at 6 weeks then and was getting overdosed with Nitrogen.
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Hi Scrogdawg,

Hey, what's the fix for too much nitrogen? My plants are a deep, deep green. I thought they were just very healthy! My plants are not as small as your plant in your pic, but it would be something for me to look into.

What causes nitrogen overload, and how do i definitively diagnose it?

Thanks for the input. I really, really appreciate your help.

 

[Scrogdawg]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Back off on the nitrogen or leave it out for a cycle is how you'd correct it Magnus.

Make sure you calibrate that PH meter before you use it. In your case you'll want to collect the runoff water and PH according to that. 5.8 if its a hydro grow and 6.5 if its a soil grow. I'd also carefully check the well water for ppm's before adding nutes to it. Chances are the well water will be rich in irons and other minerals and will read high to start with. Then add about 300 ppm of nutes to it and try a cycle like that. Remember, go easy on the nutes, less can be better.

 

[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Back off on the nitrogen or leave it out for a cycle is how you'd correct it Magnus.

Make sure you calibrate that PH meter before you use it. In your case you'll want to collect the runoff water and PH according to that. 5.8 if its a hydro grow and 6.5 if its a soil grow. I'd also carefully check the well water for ppm's before adding nutes to it. Chances are the well water will be rich in irons and other minerals and will read high to start with. Then add about 300 ppm of nutes to it and try a cycle like that. Remember, go easy on the nutes, less can be better.

Hi Scrogdawg,

Thanks again for trying to help me. I do, unfortunately, have some rather newbie questions for you. Which is okay, I suppose, since I guess that's exactly what I am -- a newbie!

I use General Hydroponics 3-part Flora system of fertilizers, those being FloraGro (2-1-6), FloraMicro (5-0-1) and FloraBloom (0-5-4). If I were to try to cut out (or at least minimize in this case) the Nitrogen, then would that mean that I would try to minimize the first number in the series (eg. 2-1-6 or 5-0-1)? To do this, I would have to cut out the FloraMicro from one cycle, right? Since it has the most Nitrogen in it but the least of the other nutes, it would be the one to eliminate, right? I cannot see eliminating the FloraGro from the series, since the Nitrogen is fairly low compared to the last nutrient in the fertilizer.

Does this make any sense at all to you? I hope so, because I could sure use some direction in this before screwing up my babies' feeding regimen.

And I made sure to calibrate my pH meter as soon as I got it and it had warmed up from being in the mailbox! I grow in coco, which is basically a form of hydro, as you must know. So far, I've been using water from WalMart which is RO water and reads at 5.8, miraculously. At last it did the one time I had a chance to check it. That was this last batch of water we purchased from there. I have no idea where the ppm will read from my landlady's well. I don't have a ppm meter yet. It's on the way from Amazon-land as I write. Should be here within a week and a half, I've got my fingers crossed. Just couldn't afford to purchase all the things I needed all at once when I first started my grow. There was just too much to buy and I couldn't afford it all. Certain things like the ppm meter just got put on the list for this month, rather than last month or the month before. And it's funny, this idea that less nutes can be better. One would think that, with the nutes being food for the babies and all, that you'd want to make sure they have all they need and more. Damn, it feels like I'll never get this all down in my mind. And yet I know already that I've learned a ton this grow alone. But stil, I feel like there is so much more to learn, so much more to experience, so many more mistakes to be made.

And the health and vitality of my plants are hanging in the balance, and my yield, too.

You may not know this about me yet, but my yield is especially important to me (like it is to everyone, I suppose) because I need this weed for pain control. I live with excruciating pain in my back which is now controlled with a Fentanyl patch. Or rather, two Fentanyl patches -- twice the normal dosage that most men would take. Very soon the doctor is taking away my Fentanyl patch after my having used it for pain control for the past 6 or more years. When that time arrives, I'll have no barrier between myself and the pain except whatever cannabis I can grow for myself. And that is why my yield is so damned important to me. Because without much of a yield I will be walking with a cane everywhere on the days I can walk, and pissing into a mason jar that my wife holds for me in bed every morning because I cannot twist enough to hold the jar for myself. Yep. That's how bad my back is. That's why I take twice the normal dosage of Fentanyl than other men take.

So that's why, when I say I'm grateful for your help, you can be really sure that I'm more grateful than you know. Because it's people like you and Rideouts and Kush and PE636 and the others who have helped me throughout this grow and know my story who will, ultimately, help me get a good enough yield to last me through to my next harvest.

So, thanks again.

 

[Scrogdawg]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Do you "recirculate" or "drain to waste"? Can you tell me how much water and how much of the Flora Series you mix in a batch now? What is your watering schedule? I use Flora Series as well. If you can answer a few questions I'm sure we can come up with a good recipe for your plants.

Your situation is almost exactly like mine. I didn't have all the equipment I needed or the right feeding schedules before I started. I wound up fumbling around and ended up with stunted plants that looked healthy but would not grow. Once I was able to accurately monitor PH and PPm's and got the nute recipe right things began to change. The particular plant that I posted earlier is now in week three of flower and coming nicely but will never catch the other plants nor yield anywhere near what they will.

Heres a few general things to know.
- Your ppm meter is going to be a valuable tool once you get it.
- RO water will have almost 0 ppm's and you will need to add Cal/Mag.
- Well water will be much higher in ppm's as mineral content will be present already.
- Initially feed your plants at about 30% of the General Hydroponics feed charts.
- You may need to veg a little longer to get these plants to where you want them for flower.
- Although these plants will produce they may not ever yield the amount you were expecting, just a hard truth.

If anyone else thinks I'm going off the rails here, please chime in...we all want to help.

 

[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Do you "recirculate" or "drain to waste"? Can you tell me how much water and how much of the Flora Series you mix in a batch now? What is your watering schedule? I use Flora Series as well. If you can answer a few questions I'm sure we can come up with a good recipe for your plants.

Your situation is almost exactly like mine. I didn't have all the equipment I needed or the right feeding schedules before I started. I wound up fumbling around and ended up with stunted plants that looked healthy but would not grow. Once I was able to accurately monitor PH and PPm's and got the nute recipe right things began to change. The particular plant that I posted earlier is now in week three of flower and coming nicely but will never catch the other plants nor yield anywhere near what they will.

Heres a few general things to know.
- Your ppm meter is going to be a valuable tool once you get it.
- RO water will have almost 0 ppm's and you will need to add Cal/Mag.
- Well water will be much higher in ppm's as mineral content will be present already.
- Initially feed your plants at about 30% of the General Hydroponics feed charts.
- You may need to veg a little longer to get these plants to where you want them for flower.
- Although these plants will produce they may not ever yield the amount you were expecting, just a hard truth.

If anyone else thinks I'm going off the rails here, please chime in...we all want to help.

I'm not sure what others might be thinking, but I'm thinking you're right on the money. This sounds like the information I've been like a blind man trying to figure out, struggling in the dark, fumbling around on the internet without a real understanding of what exactly i'm supposed to be looking for. I tell you, Scrogdawg, I have been searching all around the internet with only a hint of what I was after, knowing I had to learn about ppm and pH and how to deal with my nutes.

We have to remember that I'm dealing with a flood and drain system here and so measuring runoff is hard to do as far as I know. Also, i'm working in coco, which is basically hydro, though many people don't understand that at all. But it sounds like you do.

You know what my biggest fear has been? I've got an order for 9 different seeds coming, 6 of which I chose for myself specifically to medicate either my back or my anxiety or just to enjoy my life, and 3 were toss off freebies that don't sound very specifically attuned to me or my needs. (These freebie systems at these seedbanks sure could use a thing or two from Amazon and its capacity to suggest other products for you to buy. Just sayin'. But I digress...) These 6 strains that I chose, however, are really really important to me. I've been terrified that without a clear, informed understanding of what I've been doing wrong so far that I was destined to repeat the mistakes of the past and wind up with similarly constructed plants: stunted, retarded and unyielding (in all meanings of the word). I've been so afraid of ruining my new crop that I want to plant but haven't yet done so, partly because they haven't arrived yet but mostly because I felt I hadn't arrived at a real understanding of what was wrong, how to diagnose my plants, and how to fix it. In short, I was terrified that they would wind up the same as these ones. That's been my biggest fear. And for the first time, i feel like I might have a chance to learn, to really learn, how to diagnose my plants well enough to administer what they need.

Thanks again for the help. By now, you must know how much I mean that. I should be able to have my ppm meter sometime around the end of this week, beginning of next week. I may just cancel the one I've ordered from Amazon and pick one up from my Grow store that I like so much on Friday and be done with it. I'll be transplanting my damaged little girl (the one who was light burned way back when and has never caught up to her sisters since) today sometime, probably this afternoon. And the table to support the scrogged plants will be installed byy tomorrow evening it looks like. So much is going to change between now and then. Oh, and I'll be changing out their solution for new sometime today, too, so that they'll have a fresh round of solutions before their next feeding.

Hope you have a great Sunday ahead of you. I must understand now that my crop may never been what it could have been and I'll just have to accept that. I can accept that. As long as there's hope for the next round of crop, then I can accept this fact. Only then

Be well, Scrogdawg. How you stick around for the scrog. That I might need some help with, too, because if I'm ever going to hope to yield anything, then it's going to have to be with a scrog!

 

[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Do you "recirculate" or "drain to waste"? Can you tell me how much water and how much of the Flora Series you mix in a batch now? What is your watering schedule? I use Flora Series as well. If you can answer a few questions I'm sure we can come up with a good recipe for your plants.

Your situation is almost exactly like mine. I didn't have all the equipment I needed or the right feeding schedules before I started. I wound up fumbling around and ended up with stunted plants that looked healthy but would not grow. Once I was able to accurately monitor PH and PPm's and got the nute recipe right things began to change. The particular plant that I posted earlier is now in week three of flower and coming nicely but will never catch the other plants nor yield anywhere near what they will.

Heres a few general things to know.
- Your ppm meter is going to be a valuable tool once you get it.
- RO water will have almost 0 ppm's and you will need to add Cal/Mag.
- Well water will be much higher in ppm's as mineral content will be present already.
- Initially feed your plants at about 30% of the General Hydroponics feed charts.
- You may need to veg a little longer to get these plants to where you want them for flower.
- Although these plants will produce they may not ever yield the amount you were expecting, just a hard truth.

If anyone else thinks I'm going off the rails here, please chime in...we all want to help.

I realized I forgot to answer your basic questions...

I recirculate my water through a flood and drain system.

I'm currently mixing according to the schedule on the back of the bottle, for "Aggressive Vegitative" cycle.

I water twice per day, once in the morning about 7 a.m. and in the evening about 7 a.m.

I already add CalMag.

I'm expecting to have to veg for at least 10 or 11 weeks now. I'm prepared to do it, and eager to see how much I can get from them with extended vegging time.

I've accepted the hard truth. I know they'll never produce what they originally had the genes for. But genes only go so far without a proper nutrient schedule. This I understand.

 

[kushnoj27]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Magnus, I completely understand your frustrations as we have all had issues of our own with growing cannabis and guess what? Every grow you WILL learn from another mistake or you will learn new techniques that will help you for the next time.

I've had multiple grows under my belt now all averaging 8-11 ounces in my 2x4 tent. This harvest last weekend was only 8 ounces, why? I made a rookie mistake. Because my original plan was 20 plants in a sea of green, I was planning on flipping my clones to a 12/12 cycle right away. Instead I decided I wanted to veg them for 30 days before flipping, why? Who fkin knows.. I wanted more bud? problem was, i had them in 1 gallon pots. This would've been fine for an instant 12/12 flip to flower, but now adding another 30 days to that, my roots at the end when I checked were completely root bound! This definitely hurt my yield, if I had grown them in 3 gallons I would've gotten a lot more bud! So you see... I fkin knew better! But my excitement got me to overlook a key aspect of the grow. But hey! That's life.

I do have some resources that might be able to help you out quite a bit. Go on YouTube and look up a guy by the name of "Everest Fernandez" his videos give an insane amount of knowledge, he talks fast but oh my the amount of information he gives is really great. He has videos explaining how PH and PPM's work along with everything else you could possibly think of. he will definitely answer a lot of those newbie questions for you.

also below I will post a Cannabis nutrient deficiency / abundance chart to help you diagnose whatever leaf problems you may be experiencing, this is quite helpful!

How much Cannabis do you plan on or currently smoke or consume in a day? I would like to judge how much Cannabis you are going to be needing until next harvest.


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[kushnoj27]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

When searching for Everest ferndandez on YouTube, once you get his account page, go to playlists and select "complete beginners (101's)" in there he has videos on PH and PPM. You can cruise through all his videos as well and see if you find anything that you want to learn. His videos are seriously the bomb diggity


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[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hi Kush!

Nice to see you, my friend. Thanks for all this info. I really appreciate it. I only wish I had known how important a ppm meter was before I began growing, and also how to use it. I feel like I've almost wasted this whole grow. Now I've got these short, stumpy plants that will likely produce so little that there's no way they'll get me through to the next grow. But such is like, I suppose. I know they will be starting to wean me off the Fentanyl beginning at the end of February or mid-March. When that happens, the shit's going to hit the fan. Now with a grow that isn't going to last me through to the next grow, and by then I'll be completely off the Fentanyl, I'm just not sure what I'm going to do. And somehow, in all of this, I've got to find it within myself to continue working with my editor to fulfill my contract for the book. Well, not because I have to. Because I want to.

You know, Kush, I'm not certain how much I'll be needing to use for my back. I remember the time before the Fentanyl. I struggled to get out of bed in the mornings. I often had to smoke weed when I first woke, before getting out of bed, in order to be able to get out of bed. At that moment I'd have to smoke a fairly big bowl. Then I remember using it every one to two hours, kind of as management control. The pain wouldn't be as bad at those times because I wouldn't leave it long enough to get bad enough. Instead, I would counteract the pain before it would hit at its worst. So at these times I wouldn't have to smoke as much of a bowl. Then at night, I'd have to have another big bowl, to try to last me through the night as long as possible. Oftentimes, I would wake at least once during the night and have to smoke a fairly big bowl to get through the rest of the night. It really was a lot of management.

Sometimes, when I think about it, I'm just not sure how cannabis is going to be able to carry me through my days. But that's probably just the anxiety talking now. I have been believing in it before now. I have to continue to believe in it from now. It's just that the Fentanyl has been so adept at controlling the pain on a continued basis, allowing for fewer ups and downs. No struggling to get up in the morning unless I forgot to change my patch the night before. No ups and downs throughout the day. I'm so damned confused right now. I think I had better go back to bed and get some more sleep. I didn't sleep well last night, and it always affects both my anxiety and my back when that happens.

And that's another thing. The cannabis always allowed me to sleep well. I slept like a freakin' baby when I used it. Not so now. Now I struggle every night to get 4 or 5 hours sleep. Up and down and up and down. If I can cull together 5 hours of sleep I'm a lucky man. I walk through my days exhausted, falling asleep at the table. I can barely drive anymore because I fall asleep at the wheel. The wife-bot has to do all the driving nowadays. And she's going back to the Soo for a month and a half starting next month to visit her kids and grandkids. I don't know how I'm going to manage, what with the plants, the driving, the dogs (though, thank gawd for the dogs; they keep me sane in so many ways) and my doctor's appointments in Edmonton. There's no way I can make the 2 hour drive to Edmonton and back in one day, and I cannot spend the night there because of the dogs. Jeezus -- I feel so damned trapped!

I am so very sorry. I should never have written half of what I wrote today. But as is my fashion, I won't erase it. Once the words are out, I feel they are out to be read.

Kush, thanks for that chart. That'll help a lot. I'm not sure now about the nitrogen overload. My plants don't look quite that green. And if they do have a nitrogen overload, then it's only minor. Where do you get all this info from? It's great stuff you got there.

I'm sorry your yield didn't turn out like you'd expected. Yes, a newbie mistake, I suppose. I only hope you've got enough weed to last you through to your next harvest. Do you have a new journal up yet? If so, please put it in your signature so that I can easily follow the link to it. I'd love to follow you through a whole grow to watch what you do and learn from you.

Anyways, I'll sign off here. Hope everyone has a great Sunday ahead of them. It's beautiful weather out here in Central Alberta, around -5 degrees Celsius. Which is like balmy spring meltdown for us!

Cheers, everyone.

 

[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

When searching for Everest ferndandez on YouTube, once you get his account page, go to playlists and select "complete beginners (101's)" in there he has videos on PH and PPM. You can cruise through all his videos as well and see if you find anything that you want to learn. His videos are seriously the bomb diggity


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I'll check 'im out as soon as I have a nap. Very tired boy here...

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

HI Magnus, I'm not going to be much help here on PH and PPM's because I grow in a home soil mix. But, I am here and subscribed. If I can help in anyway, great...if not...I'm here for moral support.

I do want to verify the comments on well water being high in specific minerals. My well water is incredibly high in Iron. So much so, that if I don't use a softener even one day, every porcelain item in the house turns brown. LOL I use rainwater now for the plants.
I do have to add cal/mag in addition the nutrient blend of the General Hydroponics line (back when I had to use them), they always seemed to need it. And, growing with LED's will make that even more needed. I have discovered this first hand in my own grows.

So, anyway...... I will catch up on the journal little by little as I have time.

Looks like you've got some great experience helping you out.

 

[Magnus8]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

HI Magnus, I'm not going to be much help here on PH and PPM's because I grow in a home soil mix. But, I am here and subscribed. If I can help in anyway, great...if not...I'm here for moral support.

I do want to verify the comments on well water being high in specific minerals. My well water is incredibly high in Iron. So much so, that if I don't use a softener even one day, every porcelain item in the house turns brown. LOL I use rainwater now for the plants.
I do have to add cal/mag in addition the nutrient blend of the General Hydroponics line (back when I had to use them), they always seemed to need it. And, growing with LED's will make that even more needed. I have discovered this first hand in my own grows.

So, anyway...... I will catch up on the journal little by little as I have time.

Looks like you've got some great experience helping you out.

CANNAFAN!!!

How wonderful to see you here and subbed! I truly appreciate it, and will honour your help whenever it is offered. I already know that you'd never offer advice just to offer it when it wasn't exactly what was warranted. I know that you'd only offer advice when you thought it was useful, and I appreciate that.

Yes, I do have some great experience behind me. Some great people helping me out. I think Scrogdawg and Kush and the others will be able to help me with the ppm and pH stuff. But I still don't understand what it means to have a lot of minerals dissolved in my water. I understand it means that the ppm readings of my water would go up, but does that mean that I would necessarily use less nutes in it? And if so, how to I determine which nutes to cut back on, especially with a 3 part nutrient system. Seems quite confusing to me already. And I'm not an easily confused kinda guy. I'm pretty smartified, if I do have to say so meself.

I guess this one's a question for Scrogdawg, eh?

And by the way... How's everyone doing this morning?

I think we should institute morning check ins on this journal. Where everyone just checks in and gives a run down of their day ahead and how they think they'll manage it! I think that would be great, though it'd be hard to institute, I bet.

So with that said, I'll sign off. But not without telling you all that, after buying screws today, the wife-bot will be able to finish building the table the flood and drain system will sit upon, holding my plants. We changed out the nutrition last night, and I'm going to see if they pick up in their growth any this week. I'm sure I forgot to change their nutrition last week, which would mean that they were going with the same liquids they were running on for 2 solid weeks, and it would have been so depleted that it would be no wonder they weren't growing fast.

And I'm repotting my damaged little girl today. The coco has been soaking to try to soften up overnight. I bought these different coco bricks than the ones I had purchased on Amazon and they are much rougher, less finely ground. I'm not sure I'm going to like them as much. Mind you, they were a helluva lot cheaper. $4.50 per brick compared to $8.95 per brick. I have to look at those kinds of costs, I do. And I hate having to count the pennies so carefully, but we're behind on paying our bills because of all the money we've put into this grow system. We have to catch up somehow, and soon. But at least I've got my seeds for my next grow already on the way. They're coming from London, UK, and should be here within the week. I think I told you all about them already, but I'll give you the rundown again:

Blue Dream
(great for pain, great for anxiety, huge producer)

CBD Critical Mass
(great for pain, huge producer)

Cinderella 99
(great for pain and having a high ol' time -- gotta have some of this, too!, big producer)

AK47
(nice relaxing strain, and since I luuuurve to vegitate in front of a movie, this is perfect, was a freebie)

Ice Bomb
(great for anxiety, huge producer)

Northern Lights Mazar Auto
(freebie, take it or leave it. I think I'll plant it outdoors for a "hoot")

Kali Mist
(great for pain, great for anxiety, huge producer)

Notice a couple of common themes in there? I chose strains specifically to target my pain and anxiety, and also huge producers, or at least big producers. Most bang for the buck, I always say. Actually, I never say that. But it sounds good, no?

So anyway, hope everyone's having a grand ol' day today. Keep well. Drive safe.

 

[Scrogdawg]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

But I still don't understand what it means to have a lot of minerals dissolved in my water. I understand it means that the ppm readings of my water would go up, but does that mean that I would necessarily use less nutes in it? And if so, how to I determine which nutes to cut back on, especially with a 3 part nutrient system. Seems quite confusing to me already. And I'm not an easily confused kinda guy. I'm pretty smartified, if I do have to say so meself.

PPM's of the water will be your base line or start point. Lets say the well water is 350 ppm and PH was 7.4. You'll want to correct the PH first then add 400 ppm of nutrients (Cal/Mag first, Micro second, Grow third and Bloom fourth in that order) for a total of 750 ppm. If someone asked you how heavy you were feeding you would report 400 ppm.

I measure ppm's after adding each nutrient and keep a record of it as they all increase ppm's differently.

 

[FeloniousPunk]

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hey Magnus8,

I had our seedlings under glass for a short time to help with the humidity. I didn't keep at it very long because air circulation is very important. Undoubtedly you have moved passed this stage by now, I just wanted to give you something to consider.

Peace.