Light Addict's Fluxing Central - Featuring The Original Flux Journal

Hey Vick and gr8fulfor420 :) Many thanks indeed. Best of buds to one and all!
 
As to light distance.....back of hand works well, if you see the plants brown and crisp you are too close. 400's are pretty small and better be within 12" of any buds. Big reflectors don't help the situation when trying to spread out the light. They do spread it out but there is not enough lumens to do much with any longer....some big reflectors the light has to leave the bulb, hit the reflector, then hit the plant...that can easily be 24". Doesn't do the plant any good, def doesn't make the buds bigger. I like the smallest reflector possible (cool tubes or small wings) just use more of them to cover an area. Always remember watts per sq foot, I like 50 as a minimum, I use 65 usually. A 400 watter should only be covering an area of 6 sq feet (2x3 feet or so). If your 400 is covering your plant that is 3.5x3.5 you are only getting 32 watts per sq foot (1/2 what I use). My buds will theoretically be 2x the size.

I'm definitely not knocking your work here LA, it's demonstrated, I love it, I'm following along to see how you do as well. I'm just saying that if you doubled your light (and can control the climate) you would get a bigger harvest. You may want to keep the fluxes a little smaller in the future ;-) I do some grow consulting and see this issue time and again.
 
OG13, Many thanks for the input. Firstly though my space is only 2.5x2.5, The 3.5 is when she is out and spread. I have her diagonal in space with one side of space open so her ass hangs out during lights on. I have reflective bands bouncing back on the outside open end. She is sat 10 inch away, I only have a little wing reflector.
My space is a bodged up ghetto space that has sod all room and not much I can alter :). Its the same spot I used on my BV and got over 14 :). I have pondered on using my 600 yet Iim sure it would become far to hot.
She gets side lighting and now has an extra fan also. I also give co2 :). So yeah of course more light means bigger buds. Yet Im quite sure I am using my space to optimum level.
Sorry not being funny :) its just out of my tiny little spot I do ok me thinks. As for kepping her smaller this is the original flux and all is new :)

Sorry again lol its just this design/style and therefore the plant is my baby at mo :)!
 
Many well documented grows here, other forums and YouTube have harvested a pound or better with a single 600watt HPS over a 4'x4' scrog. the 4x4 is 16' times 50 watts per foot is 800 watts of light. So with 25% less light than the minimum requirement, people are harvesting very nice weights to say the least.

Not to contradict with you OG13, but does your calculation produce say 1.25 lbs per 4x4/plant?
 
Hey Skybound nice to have you dropping by my friend :) hope all is good and green with you!
 
Thanks big brother across the pond! My days are getting greener the closer I get to my first harvest which I expect to be 21 days or less, hopefully anyways!
 
Awesome news my friend :) proper stoked for ya!!!!!!! Ill pop by yours in a bit :)
 
Not trying to stir up a storm, just peeps asked about how close to keep the light. All I'm saying is don't get a big reflector to spread it out. SCROG, SOG and now FLUX are all about keeping an even canopy so all plants(buds) can get fair dibs. Keep the light as close as you can, make the distance it has to travel the shortest possible. I never mentioned a specific yield per watt of light, I did "imply" that harvest is proportional to light.

I understand that LA is doing all he can to make this the best he can, I'm not knocking him at all. I'll shut up and wait for the final result.
 
OG13, Nah don't worry lol I'm just having a bad day when I end up thinking of jacking everything in. I think its partly frustration is all. I can do great things with these plants but I'm just not getting the chance to play on the scale I want to. So sorry you just hit a nerve today :).
I just want to be able to have a better area and the chance to show what I could really do if I had the lights and space. I'm living hand to mouth and have for years now. All my kit, I got gifted or bartered for.
My position of being able to move soon is looking doubtful now, so I'm stuck with the crappy spot I have for a while. Even the other journal might get scrapped soon. I just can't get money for soil to pot em up lol.
Sorry to go on just having a crap one is all. :peace:
 
Hey Harley, its just down to how much room you have, what size pot your in for root mass to drive the tops you want. If I was Hydro I would just go bloody nuts :)
I do take every other node out so it doesn't over crowd. But if I had a bigger space I would have gone bigger. This style seems to drive all sights really evenly, so I dont think I'm anywhere near the limits of the design.
Like others have speculated you could even have a flux rooted in a number of different spots. this would mean a massive plant able to power any number of heads :)
So for what pot I'm in (20 liter) and space I have, I'm probably at max number I could push it. :)
 
Hey Aztec how you doing long time no hear, have you got anything growing at mo? a new Journal coming soon? let me know my friend and I'll be all over it :)
 
yes i do i been growing this whole time i been gone, my mac charger hasn't worked and barely bought another one the other day these things are 100 a piece rip offs! lol, but yes i will start a journal soon i took some of your tips of your method and i am growing this beastie plant been begging for 1 moth and a half now but yes ill make a journal in a bit L:D
 
OG13, I was not trying to offend you, but rather to question your process in search of more knowledge. I am only a newbie and am approaching my first harvest. I aspire to one day grow for patients in a professional setting as my state is on the verge of competing with several others to be the 3rd in the US to legalize, and I want to be ready when that happens. So if I may pique your brain some more, I'd really like to know if one could correlate a weight to the 50w per square foot? Not trying to insult you, or look for flaws in your process of building a grow, just want the information that I gather to be legit and already scrutinized to have as many bugs worked out as possible.
 
Skybound said:
I'd really like to know if one could correlate a weight to the 50w per square foot?
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Get that out of your head.

1. 50w per sq foot is considered a good optimal avg.
2. you'll never garner a weight avg from watts per sq foot because growers are so different.

With each style, strain, seed, clone, nutrient, etc, yields will differ. Just work and getting the basics down really solid, and find the strains you like. Then start learning different styles of growing that interest you.

1 gpw has been for a long time the goal of growers. And it's not always easily achieved. Yet there are plenty of folks that surpass that. Especially in smaller plant number grows, because they have the time to train and manipulate their plants as opposed to folks growing larger numbers.

That being sad, I can promise you LA will far surpass 1 gpw on this plant.
 
Light Addict said:
OG13, Many thanks for the input. Firstly though my space is only 2.5x2.5, The 3.5 is when she is out and spread. I have her diagonal in space with one side of space open so her ass hangs out during lights on. I have reflective bands bouncing back on the outside open end. She is sat 10 inch away, I only have a little wing reflector.
My space is a bodged up ghetto space that has sod all room and not much I can alter :). Its the same spot I used on my BV and got over 14 :). I have pondered on using my 600 yet Iim sure it would become far to hot.
She gets side lighting and now has an extra fan also. I also give co2 :). So yeah of course more light means bigger buds. Yet Im quite sure I am using my space to optimum level.
Sorry not being funny :) its just out of my tiny little spot I do ok me thinks. As for kepping her smaller this is the original flux and all is new :)

Sorry again lol its just this design/style and therefore the plant is my baby at mo :)!
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I don't know but it seems to me a 400w would be perfect for that closet (especially the way you've trained to open her up) given the footprint and heighth. I'm pretty sure there can actually be to much light also, thus the reason that chart shows "to close to bulb" #'s also. Me, I've never been much of one to try and figure out how to make the wheel roll better; if its working no need to put my mind at work finding a "better" way to eff it up. Lol, I can see polishing the hubcaps or even upgrading the rims...but as long as that beeech rolls, I'll leave the tires round.
 
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