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Cheers Cajun, she is getting there slowly lol. She has 1-3 inch vertical build at mo, ill let her build min of 6 but im thinking if her upwards growth is let to go maybe 8 as she is climbing quite quickly. I want massive colas so 8 before flip should give me my foot long buds by end.
 
Hey all just some crappy HPS pics I'm afraid!
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Now is when the fun begins and where EVERYONE will recognize the potential of your Flux technique. I predict this grow will earn you a couple more 420 contest winnings and I wouldn't be at all surprised if you get a jingle from Jorge @ HighTimes. Just sayin....
 
Hey Light, those pics are definitely 'clawing' downwards! Thanks for the clarification!

Now since I know you must have your nutrient feed dialed in, I can relate this to environmental effects. But just to be sure, check the foliage that gets the least exposure to heat and light. If it is a a case of high nutrient feed, then all leaves throughout the plant should show signs of curling.

Now if you rule that out, I most commonly see this problem in my leaves when temperature and lack of moisture coincide. When there is a lack of moisture in the air, combined with a constant fan blowing in their direction will lead to leaves drying out faster than it can absorb moisture, causing an upward curl, like a kayak!

When it is just too hot, the leaf will attempt to conserve moisture by curling down and inwards (like a claw), preventing the whole leave from respirating excess moisture into the air. Do you notice at different times of the day (early morning, late night) the leaves appear to be flattening out, but then other times of the day (mid-day) they seem to be getting worse? If so then your roots are not providing the leaves with enough moisture to overcome what the leaf is losing to the heat.

So when lights go off, when lights go on, or when you have just watered, are the times when your plants have the most moisture to utilise. Observe over the next few days and let me know what you find.

As I believe it is an environmental stress, there is no need for concern as of yet. I had my Bubb go through multiple dry spells till this day. Matter of fact, I will get a picture up of how similar our leaves may look :thumb:
 
Cheers AG, Yep I did have a slight N def the other Day so gave a couple of big feeds then yesterday as more of a preventative measure I gave just water with Epsom salts. But I have been letting her go real nice and dry before watering's etc. Also in my space I do struggle with RH as its normally really quite low in the 30-40 range most of the time. Good for flower but not for veg lol.
I'll do as you say and observe for a couple of days now. It might be PH fluctuations? as with Epsom my ph drops like crazy, just a thought. I'll def keep on top of it and let you know what's going on. Many thanks for your time once more AG!

Sky, yep she is really starting to get herself sorted now. Got good vertical growth already and I'm gonna let her buil plenty lol before flip. Not sure I'll get any calls lol. I do think people are gonna be shocked once she goes into flower.
 
I get that you're not trying to be overly confident, and that's admirable, but I'm on the side line and am not held to the same standard. With that said, the way this technique mimics and entire RDWC grow op with a control res (nute sources) plumbing to each bucket (lateral branches) and soon to come Sea of Green, your plant will shake the foundations of growing because with all 50 US states (and subsequently the world) pushing to legalize MMJ and recreational use, people wanting to grow are coming out in droves, many of whom want to produce their own dank sticky icky, but still want to stay way under the radar with a nice micro grow will instantly take to this technique once you have some of the bugs worked out and a generalized schedule can be provided.

Perhaps I am just overly excited, but I seriously think you're gonna have large single colas, as many as you allotted for (32?). Aside from the extended Veg time, this style nearly maximizes 100% of the grower's available space which I assume is extremely important to the micro grower, coupled with the ability to care after (32?) flowering plants from a single bed of dirt. Not to mention that your theory of the flow of auxins flowing down the 2 main stems will provide ample exposure of every secondary branching that ironically are in series in that direction anyway. You my friend have what we in "the biz" call a sure thing! Sorry for "The Breakup" reference
 
HAha, Sky you kill me when you get excited about MMJ :rofl: I love it:high-five:

Hey Light, here are some pics of my leaves curling downwards to try and conserve moisture. I am fairly more severe than you, as you can notice how some leaves have curled upwards. These upward curling leaves have been in direct exposure to my fan, completely sucking out as much moisture as possible.

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Now here is a picture of a lower cola, around 8 inches lower than the previous pictures. Notice how everything looks normal. This lets me know the plants at a higher level of the canopy are definitely going through environmental stressors the lower foliage is not being exposed to.

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I actually need to thank you Light, after looking over my plant, I have spotted what seems to be the beginnings of a K deficiency. I wouldn't have noticed anything for another 24 hours if I hadn't opened my tent for these pics. :thankyou:
 
My friend you are too kind. Although I would be lying if I didn't admit you just put a big smile on my face. I do have high hopes for this technique I admit. I cant really be said to be shying away from it either when I've posted my target weight at 25oz lol, Its only got 28 sites as cut it short a little due to wanting her up and going. I think with the amount of 28 foot long colas its well possible.
The use of letting the ends of flux sit higher to give the plant two dominant heads at end drawing everything along is so simple. I'm hoping that it creates a non stop cycle in flower. Where the ends keep calling for more food yet the others draw it off just at the right point that the ends never quite get their fill so keep calling for more and more. If that makes sense lol
 
Awesome info and post there AG many thanks my friend!
 
AfricanGrower said:
Hey Light, those pics are definitely 'clawing' downwards! Thanks for the clarification!

Now since I know you must have your nutrient feed dialed in, I can relate this to environmental effects. But just to be sure, check the foliage that gets the least exposure to heat and light. If it is a a case of high nutrient feed, then all leaves throughout the plant should show signs of curling.

Now if you rule that out, I most commonly see this problem in my leaves when temperature and lack of moisture coincide. When there is a lack of moisture in the air, combined with a constant fan blowing in their direction will lead to leaves drying out faster than it can absorb moisture, causing an upward curl, like a kayak!

When it is just too hot, the leaf will attempt to conserve moisture by curling down and inwards (like a claw), preventing the whole leave from respirating excess moisture into the air. Do you notice at different times of the day (early morning, late night) the leaves appear to be flattening out, but then other times of the day (mid-day) they seem to be getting worse? If so then your roots are not providing the leaves with enough moisture to overcome what the leaf is losing to the heat.

So when lights go off, when lights go on, or when you have just watered, are the times when your plants have the most moisture to utilise. Observe over the next few days and let me know what you find.

As I believe it is an environmental stress, there is no need for concern as of yet. I had my Bubb go through multiple dry spells till this day. Matter of fact, I will get a picture up of how similar our leaves may look :thumb:
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That is some outstanding info right there....thanks for sharing, it explains alot!!! :clap:
 
Crazy isn't it but I literally tingle with anticipation EVERY time I see pic updates of Gitt :) I think you really have hit on the way forward here my friend :)
 
Heady said:
That is some outstanding info right there....thanks for sharing, it explains alot!!! :clap:
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I cannot take all the credit as this is knowledge I have learned from research I did in the past when I went FIRST went through similar problems without a definite answer to what was going on. In fact a grower named Uncle Ben on another forum I was apart of wrote some great threads on environmental stressors and the possible causes for them.

If anyone wants more detailed info on some other stressors, just search the web for: Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions. It has been reproduced countless times, but the info should all be from Ben.

Happy Growing :hippy:
 
Hey Wildbill, Yep I'm hoping so lol.
 
Ag you were correct! Just going by lights on look; not anywhere near as bad as mid day so cool now I know its environmental most likely, Many thanks!
Has anyone got an easy cheat for higher RH in a small semi unclosed area?
Anyway Gitt looks healthy and is climbing nicely!
 
Wet towels is what I use. Here the norm RH is now about 35%, maybe a tad less. I keep a wet shirt hanging from a nail in the grow area. Moisture leaches out for several hours and jacks the RH up to 50% give or take. Maybe once around lights on, then again before lights off for a 12/12.
 
Good green morning to you LA. As Sky suggested wet towel. Cult told me to do it before I got my humidifier and it upped it by 15-20%. Half fill a bucket with water and leave the bottom of the towel in it to wick the water up. Set up a "clothes line" and peg the top of the towel to it. If you can, place a small fan behind it blow through the towel and into the grow area. :) Hope that helps mate :)
 
Yeah I use that trick in my tent sometimes lol. My space at mo is so small its hard to sort. but ill get it sorted today somehow. So many thanks all and good green day.
 
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