Last grow i let a couple grow in the natural xmas tree shape and i vegged them for 2 weeks on a light schedule of 24/0 then sent them to flower and they finished between 16-18 inches tall from surface of the medium to top of the main cola. They were indica dominant infact the plants in the flowering box come from one of the plants from last grow. I like to keep my plants small for a fews reasons but mainly because i feel that with cfls it is too much of a pain in the ass to properly light bigger plants so by keeping them small i can light them properly. Ya i dont yeild the most but hey im just trying to supply myself with meds and this plenty for me, although I am going to switch it up once i harvest these first two girls. I plan to grow budscicles in two liter pure perlite hempys perpetual sog. Im gonna test run it in this flowering box and if im happy with it i am gonna make a new flowering box out of bigger Rubbermaid totes like 100gal and I'll get the mars-hydro reflector48 led panel to use instead of CFLs. Not dogging on the cfls but i am curious about leds thats all. If someone is just looking to supply themselves and dont need like 8oz a month cfls are perfect if you find how to use them in the most efficient way for your space and plans. Anyways I hope I answered your question i sometimes ramble on lol and if i didnt answer your question don't hesitate to let me know lol