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Landrace Genetics 101
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I’m going to attempt to drag things back on topic here 
with a question to all the long time growers from oz, and others who may know. What are the Australian landraces - assuming there are some? I know of Mullumbimby madness - but it doesn’t seem available anywhere. Nor do I know what it’s supposed history is, or if it can be considered a landrace.
I’m hoping @GrizzWald or one of the other fellow dwellers in the southern land can enlighten me a bit
with a question to all the long time growers from oz, and others who may know. What are the Australian landraces - assuming there are some? I know of Mullumbimby madness - but it doesn’t seem available anywhere. Nor do I know what it’s supposed history is, or if it can be considered a landrace.I’m hoping @GrizzWald or one of the other fellow dwellers in the southern land can enlighten me a bit
Hmmm that's interesting, I'm sure there has to be a Landrace there someplace
No landrace strains in Australia... All hyberdised bastard weed.. just not sure why thats an ugly word.... Or these terms that have such importance are used wrong or to sell shit....
lazyfish
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Tangwena talks about the Chopper Reed. Is that one landrace? I have been wondering about it lately.
@TorturedSoul nice article that you posted by the way. Great read. Thanks.
@TorturedSoul nice article that you posted by the way. Great read. Thanks.
I think it was Matthew Flinders, first fleet biologist or one of the ships, brought the seeds into Australia...
Might be heirlooms to find...
Mull madness has had a long history of breeding done with it.. Shanti did some. From looking, seems to be a few different varieties that people hoard from that area, called Mullumbimby madness... There was also a trippy strain up past Cairns, another really big Sativa, I'll post when I remember the name...
Might be heirlooms to find...
Mull madness has had a long history of breeding done with it.. Shanti did some. From looking, seems to be a few different varieties that people hoard from that area, called Mullumbimby madness... There was also a trippy strain up past Cairns, another really big Sativa, I'll post when I remember the name...
Thanks Grizz. Well I had the trippy pleasure of smoking some pretty wild home grown on a property up in the hills from Cairns about 30years ago, while on tour up there. Somewhere north of Kuranda. I actually did an all night walk out there on the tablelands that was fuelled by it (we needed to get somewhere, no car - so we walked). I still have the visions of that starry trippy night burned into my brain. I don’t remember if anyone told me what it was called... I was 20, and wasn’t really paying attention much - except to the fact of weed 
I lived in Port Douglas for a while and also had the pleasure i was young aswell, it was like mushroom weed...check "Seedfinders.eu" there is a list of - "GrizzWald" you bring back memories - shrooms !!!!I’m going to attempt to drag things back on topic here
I’m hoping @GrizzWald or one of the other fellow dwellers in the southern land can enlighten me a bit
Hmm... Maybe?
For a long time, it was, as far as I know, accepted that the first cannabis came to Australia in 1788 in the form of seeds carried by the First Fleet at the request of Sir Joeseph Banks (it having been envisaged two years earlier, by the British Cabinet, that Australia would become a commercial colony producing hemp).
But that might not be the case:
Seedsman's Blog said:
Seedsman's Blog said:
Seedsman's Blog said:
I wonder if this one is in any related to, what's it called? Wally Duck's Ducksfoot?
Haha - yes I saw articles about that at the time. Had forgotten about it.
That is still my wish! We are so far from that legally though... how sad.
That is still my wish! We are so far from that legally though... how sad.
don't believe all on the internet $20,000 seeds.. Nevil maybe wasn't it called Australian barstadised ditchweed.... Banks, thank for clearing up.. their all Street names over here lol...Tomster420
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Mullimbimby Madness, Beechworth Alpine Indica and PNG Gold (Cape trib sativa) are the ones I know of here in OZ.
I've read that when the gold rush came to Victoria the Chinese immigrants brought some of there i guess "landrace" cannabis from their homeland and planted them all along the Murray. Australia's 'Landraces' are a mix of south east asia/china and Papua New Guinean genetics for the most part but there has also been skunk influence of course over the years.
I don't know a lot about aboriginal culture so they might have some sought of landrace but they might keep that in their tribal circles..who knows?
I hope this has helped someone
I've read that when the gold rush came to Victoria the Chinese immigrants brought some of there i guess "landrace" cannabis from their homeland and planted them all along the Murray. Australia's 'Landraces' are a mix of south east asia/china and Papua New Guinean genetics for the most part but there has also been skunk influence of course over the years.
I don't know a lot about aboriginal culture so they might have some sought of landrace but they might keep that in their tribal circles..who knows?
I hope this has helped someone
Thanks wings - that does help. And seems to make sense. And yeah - the things I remember hearing most in my younger days were Thai and skunk. And once Columbian I’m sure.
Ok so not much in the Landrace down here... seems odd. But maybe the continental break happened long before cannabis had spread and the just wasn’t any here - except for it’s rare cousin in the Blue Mountains
I remember Thai stick.
Ok so not much in the Landrace down here... seems odd. But maybe the continental break happened long before cannabis had spread and the just wasn’t any here - except for it’s rare cousin in the Blue Mountains
Tomster420
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I'm too young to have experienced all the 'old' strains myself so I've had to settle for gaining as much info as possible to learn what i want to acquire in terms of genetics.
Unfortunately a lot of people are very hush hush still around the country so what could be learnt isn't being learnt because of the whole legality of the situation. I'm almost positive here in Oz there would be such things classified as landraces but where and who is growing/hoarding them I don't know. If you know the right people, info about landraces or what was brought over from other countries and then grown here for 40+ years would be much easier to gain.
I believe that at the very least, strains from around where I mentioned before would/could have been brought over here...adapted to our climate variations (depending on where the plant was planted duh) and has been evolving/adapting for 40+ years. I don't know if that would be classified as a landrace but if there is anything that is close to a landrace it would be the genetic children of cannabis brought over from those countries i mentioned and/or maybe even from when Cpt.Cook came here.
Knowledge is the key to our (Australian) cannabis history and until the book is opened completely? Finding out that info might be a bit more than difficult
I'm interested all the same still though
What's this rare cousin in the blue mountains? I'm not catching on haha
Unfortunately a lot of people are very hush hush still around the country so what could be learnt isn't being learnt because of the whole legality of the situation. I'm almost positive here in Oz there would be such things classified as landraces but where and who is growing/hoarding them I don't know. If you know the right people, info about landraces or what was brought over from other countries and then grown here for 40+ years would be much easier to gain.
I believe that at the very least, strains from around where I mentioned before would/could have been brought over here...adapted to our climate variations (depending on where the plant was planted duh) and has been evolving/adapting for 40+ years. I don't know if that would be classified as a landrace but if there is anything that is close to a landrace it would be the genetic children of cannabis brought over from those countries i mentioned and/or maybe even from when Cpt.Cook came here.
Knowledge is the key to our (Australian) cannabis history and until the book is opened completely? Finding out that info might be a bit more than difficult
I'm interested all the same still though
What's this rare cousin in the blue mountains? I'm not catching on haha
I have sometimes met with openly hostile responses when asking folks about these things. People are super protective of the info, and also very very paranoid in some cases- often with good reason I’m guessing. “Cagey” doesn’t quite do it justice. That’s why Ive been glad to find my way here - I was getting nowhere seeking info or connection to some of the folks I know around here. Happy to sell it - not happy to talk about it. *shrug*
That article that TS posted back there...
It kind of fits with what you suggested about the indigenous population having some herb lore... Thyere used to be a very sizeable indigenous population in those mountains, before colonisation, so the story goes.
That article that TS posted back there...
It kind of fits with what you suggested about the indigenous population having some herb lore... Thyere used to be a very sizeable indigenous population in those mountains, before colonisation, so the story goes.
Tomster420
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I understand where you are coming from 100% Amy. "Happy to sell it, not happy to talk about it" is so true. Another case is most people just don't know what they're talking about, they just grow weed and smoke/sell it without ever thinking really what it is or where it came from (other than their dealer).
Where are you in Oz? Up north i assume from your profile pic? I ask because I'm in Victoria and the people change a fair bit from state to state + you might have access to some genetics that I don't vice-versa..perhaps we could arrange something down the line if people become more forthcoming with information
That post sounds like it's either ducksfoot or MBM, I'm a little ways from the blueys so I'd have to pen that in with some sought of holiday (thinking of popping in to nimbin soonish anyway so could be around then). I worked for a guy who is from the blue mountains and from what he said it sounds beautiful, great place to strain hunt + smoke up 
Where are you in Oz? Up north i assume from your profile pic? I ask because I'm in Victoria and the people change a fair bit from state to state + you might have access to some genetics that I don't vice-versa..perhaps we could arrange something down the line if people become more forthcoming with information
That post sounds like it's either ducksfoot or MBM, I'm a little ways from the blueys so I'd have to pen that in with some sought of holiday (thinking of popping in to nimbin soonish anyway so could be around then
). I worked for a guy who is from the blue mountains and from what he said it sounds beautiful, great place to strain hunt + smoke up