Landrace Genetics 101

conradino23 said:
I started bonging my CPR

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And I have to say this bud becomes a ferocious sativa that makes you trippin' almost. You kind of lose the sense of where you are for half an hour or so :hippy: :lot-o-toke:
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Love that!!! :Love: Beautiful bud, Conradino..Enjoy!!
 
Great thread, it took me a few days to get through it.

Most of my early day smoking was Mexican brick weed. Fortunately I had the "pick of the bricks".

I had a good connection out west that would let me root through huge piles of brick weed.
The big shots would laugh at me and all me "el raton"

occasionally some good stuff would come around and I have 40 year old seeds of a few. I can't get any to sprout.

Thai
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Colo
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still had weed stashed with the seed. didnt have any kick to it,
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Col Gold
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Kono Gold
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Brick weed mix
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Oaxacan
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Hmmm.This really is a history lesson for the youngsters....You will never find any books about it ..haha Altho I did read a book called "Weed" I think it was.It told the story from the hills of Mexico to L.A. I think.... I remember getting nervous reading about them almost getting popped on there quest....Anyway just glad to be passing along my history.....One question. Is it really bad to dry your weed in the sun and fresh air? The reason I ask is I remember when almost all weed was dry and brown.Oh and great too.. Then it slowly got damper and greener.Could that have gone along with the fact that greener weed weighs more than brown stuff and more weight means more $$...? Just wondering...I liked the smell and flavor. This summer I accidentally broke off a big bud so I just hung it in the shop in front of a window. Much later when it was dry I crushed it up ....MMMMMMmmmmmmm that old smell of brown buds..mmmmm So would sun dryed be ok after all ? Thanks and Happy Hemping,Red sorry if I am drifting off subject..But this seems the place to ask
 
Hey Hash Hound,Did the scratch or score method help on the germination ? Be great to resurrect some of those old ones...Great pictures. Hope you can get some of them going again..I had a friend and he lined the inside of a matchbox with sandpaper.Droped in a few seeds and shook for a minute..Tada... ready to go..Red Did that dark weed have any smell left? Looked great Oh one last thought.I remember finding Spanish Coke bottle caps in the bricks.Thought it was great to have proof that it was imported and not domestic..haha.I kept one in my pocket till almost all the paint was off.. should have kept at least one..
 
I have thousands of bagseeds 10-20 years old. I can get mine to crack but they won't spit out a root. I've thought about some sort of booster hormone sumpin for rooting ... anybody have any experience?
 
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electro gypsy said:
one of our local rec farmers hooked into one of the old ones. Pakistan Chitral Kush.
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He's an older guy and strives for the old skool stuff. Rumor has it he has an old Thai strain in the works.
I sure hope so.
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I grew it, A grade landrace indica that should be processed into hash to be fully appreciated. She produces very relaxing/narcotic stone and has exteremely spicy taste to it. I kinda liked it.

Graytail said:
I have thousands of bagseeds 10-20 years old. I can get mine to crack but they won't spit out a root. I've thought about some sort of booster hormone sumpin for rooting ... anybody have any experience?
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There are two working methods for old seeds that I tried. First one is black tea soak, and the other one using nail cutter to cut the rim around the seed which lets it pop if the shell had hardened.
 
conradino23 said:
I grew it, A grade landrace indica that should be processed into hash to be fully appreciated. She produces very relaxing/narcotic stone and has exteremely spicy taste to it. I kinda liked it.



There are two working methods for old seeds that I tried. First one is black tea soak, and the other one using nail cutter to cut the rim around the seed which lets it pop if the shell had hardened.
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BID (RIP) used to use a little mint or match box with some sand paper and would rough up the seed before soaking...he had good results :)
 
conradino23 said:
I grew it, A grade landrace indica that should be processed into hash to be fully appreciated. She produces very relaxing/narcotic stone and has exteremely spicy taste to it. I kinda liked it.
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Yeah the flavor and aroma is very unique. I was a bit skeptical at first, but having met the guy I think he's being pretty honest. It's the way I remember the kush of old for sure. I would so love to get a start!
 
Graytail said:
I have thousands of bagseeds 10-20 years old. I can get mine to crack but they won't spit out a root. I've thought about some sort of booster hormone sumpin for rooting ... anybody have any experience?
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If they are cracking without a root tongue they may not be viable. Maybe try a little Auxin in the water.. at least you have a good supply to experiment with. Could be interesting!
 
Stoned Redneck said:
One question. Is it really bad to dry your weed in the sun and fresh air? The reason I ask is I remember when almost all weed was dry and brown.Oh and great too.. Then it slowly got damper and greener.Could that have gone along with the fact that greener weed weighs more than brown stuff and more weight means more $$...? Just wondering...I liked the smell and flavor.
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Read my post above about composting weed to make it turn brown, as was done in Colombia and evidently was also done in Thailand. That is from fermenting it, not drying it in the sun. In Mexico of old (1970s) they usually dried it in the sun, but they lacked the cured finish and taste that shade dried buds have. That weed was loose (not bricked) and usually green. Bricked weed likely composted (from any origin) which turned it brown.

I cut my tops and cut the large leaves off and shade dry my buds for a week on flat cardboard trays in a cool garage or barn (not more than 65 degrees). I do not bother hanging them upside down or any of that (that takes up way too much space). Then I trim them out and put the tops into paper grocery bags crimped at the top for a several weeks to cure. I open them every few days and rotate the tops in he bags and if they have any mold smell I open the bags up for a few days. Otherwise I crimp them closed and after a few weeks the tops develop a cured aroma. When they feel dry and smell good, pull the tops and cut them down into nuggets or manageable size tops and put them in jars or plastic bags. I pop those open once a day for a few weeks to make sure it is dry and cured. If I smell any mold, I put them back into the paper bags for another week or so until that smell goes away. I developed this method growing a lot of weed in Southern Oregon.
 
BigSur said:
Read my post above about composting weed to make it turn brown, as was done in Colombia and evidently was also done in Thailand. That is from fermenting it, not drying it in the sun. In Mexico of old (1970s) they usually dried it in the sun, but they lacked the cured finish and taste that shade dried buds have. That weed was loose (not bricked) and usually green. Bricked weed likely composted (from any origin) which turned it brown.

I cut my tops and cut the large leaves off and shade dry my buds for a week on flat cardboard trays in a cool garage or barn (not more than 65 degrees). I do not bother hanging them upside down or any of that (that takes up way too much space). Then I trim them out and put the tops into paper grocery bags crimped at the top for a several weeks to cure. I open them every few days and rotate the tops in he bags and if they have any mold smell I open the bags up for a few days. Otherwise I crimp them closed and after a few weeks the tops develop a cured aroma. When they feel dry and smell good, pull the tops and cut them down into nuggets or manageable size tops and put them in jars or plastic bags. I pop those open once a day for a few weeks to make sure it is dry and cured. If I smell any mold, I put them back into the paper bags for another week or so until that smell goes away. I developed this method growing a lot of weed in Southern Oregon.
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Yep. I remember reading an article in High Times regarding shade curing Thai back in the early 80's. I still do it from time to time with outdoor grows. Not only a huge time saver but the flavor and warm fuzzy buzz stimulates oh so good flash backs. :hippy:

Actually if I remember when I get home I can get a pic of a sample
 
electro gypsy said:
Yep. I remember reading an article in High Times regarding shade curing Thai back in the early 80's. I still do it from time to time with outdoor grows. Not only a huge time saver but the flavor and warm fuzzy buzz stimulates oh so good flash backs. :hippy:

Actually if I remember when I get home I can get a pic of a sample
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do it
 
Strain Unknown Sativa Dominant from seed. Grown in the ground with composted soil and well/rain water. Plant reached approximately 7 feet tall and produced about 8-10 ounces. Planted in April. Harvested in September. Starts with a slightly floral/berry moving to spicy flavor with a real earthy undertone all the while. Dried and cured just as BigSur describes. Pretty much a start to finish outdoor grow.
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Oh. Nice slow burning texture also. Not crumbly at all.
 
Hey Big Sur,I do almost the same now.I hang dry with fans.I am really fearful of mold. Then trimmed and into paper bags.I keep the bags open and shake/stir kinda thing almost daily.. Then into the jars. So.... am I worrying too much on the mold issues? I'm going to close the bags right now and finish them up that way..Now that mold smell you talk about...that can pass? I panic and start checking every bud and sometimes finding nothing..and after finding nothing I thought of looking for some mold test or the like...Again I'm probabley just worrying too much,But I would rather be safe than sorry..Anyway i can see that keeping the bags closed will help.I'll just keep an eye on it.Thanks for the info,Red....
 
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