Keffka's Recycling, KOS Blue Thai, Herbies Seeds Apple Betty, Runtz Punch

Gee64 said:
Here comes the weight! They are bulking up beautifully😍
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They just keep rolling with the surprises.. The shorty I had to elevate that I expected to be the lightest is bulking more than the other 3.

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That one in front.. it’s getting big.
 
Keffka said:
They just keep rolling with the surprises.. The shorty I had to elevate that I expected to be the lightest is bulking more than the other 3.

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That one in front.. it’s getting big.
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Yeah its not over til its over. You never know how they are going to finish up.

They look beautiful. You should start seeing the 1st colored leaves pretty soon.😍
 
Azimuth said:
You planning on droughting?
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I am not.. I want a baseline on the Blue Thai buzz and I want to make sure my mix is dialed in. I can’t do either of those if I drought since it has such a drastic effect.

If I’m happy with the end result then I’ll drought them next grow
 
The plants flashed Ca and K flags at me which is wild because I’ve definitely loaded the mix up with both. This tells me I can amp up my Ca and K even further and would likely see gains from it. To be fair though, we are at +43 so it’s not surprising to see some signals. However, since we are at +43 and have at least 2 weeks left I top dressed again. I don’t want to starve the grow at the most important time.
 
Keffka said:
The plants flashed Ca and K flags at me which is wild because I’ve definitely loaded the mix up with both. This tells me I can amp up my Ca and K even further and would likely see gains from it. To be fair though, we are at +43 so it’s not surprising to see some signals. However, since we are at +43 and have at least 2 weeks left I top dressed again. I don’t want to starve the grow at the most important time.
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But if the top dress will take a couple of weeks to have any effect, why do it?
 
Azimuth said:
But if the top dress will take a couple of weeks to have any effect, why do it?
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Great question!

This is a common myth? Misunderstanding? I’m not sure of a good description for it but I’ll elaborate on what I mean.

Top dressing hit times vary by element, along with uptake by the plant. Some elements can be taken up quickly, others take much longer. The couple weeks also refers to when the maximum amount of the element will be available in a regular environment. So if you don’t need the max and you’re in a warm environment you can get the top dressing available relatively quickly.

For example P takes a while to become available and to be taken up. Plus the plant likes to store it in phases. If you’ve got a P issue you either need a liquid or an organic acid, otherwise a plain top dressing won’t work in time. If you’ve got Ca, K, N, and a few others, a top dressing can have an effect within 24 hours. If you add something like Leonardite in your top dressing you can really kick it up fast. Folks who use Geoflora will see this. They’ll top dress it and 24 hours later the plants look great.

As long as you have an element need that doesn’t require significant storing like P you can typically head off issues as long as they’re not running away. Since I was seeing flags of easy uptake elements and not full blown deficiencies it should be more than enough.
 
Edit: I added it into the first paragraph but this is a vent about real life, not this site

I honestly don’t even bother helping growers (in the real world) any more unless they come to me, or pay me. Originally I was all about sharing as much information as possible but the majority of people can’t think critically enough to be given information without guidance.

For a while I gave lots of free advice and tips, and people still went and screwed their entire garden up. I gave step by step plans with measurements and all, and they still burnt every plant. It’s just not worth my time or effort any more for someone to listen to half of my advice then get mad at me when they fail spectacularly. I’m not saying stuff just to see if they’ll do it.

I can feel the hermit in me coming out 🤣 this always happens once I’m neck deep into a subject. I learn all of the publicly available information I can get my hands on and then I’m left on the bleeding edge to figure it out on my own. When this happens I get annoyed by basic questions like how to water, or what container is best. I’m not sure what it is, and I don’t like it, but I imagine it has something to do with my ego and my autism smashing into each other making me borderline arrogant. My hope is that by journaling I can keep it in check. I don’t mind answering super basic questions around here, and I think it’s because people have to put in effort just to ask the question.
 
My favorite sign of a healthy flowering plant:

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Vibrant, shiny leaves without a deep coloring like N toxicity. These leaves, just like in veg, look meaty, vibrant, and shiny. I have a few adjustments I need to make to the mix.. I don’t like the brown tips, I could do without that, I also saw flags for Ca and K as I said before.

I think I’ll increase my inputs by 25% next grow. I’m right on the line of perfection. I could’ve sidestepped it by spiking amendments but I want to be able to run a plant in the mix only without needing spikes or top dressing. I don’t think that’s possible until I’ve recycled this mix a couple times but we’ll get there.
 
Keffka said:
I honestly don’t even bother helping growers any more unless they come to me, or pay me. Originally I was all about sharing as much information as possible but the majority of people can’t think critically enough to be given information without guidance.

For a while I gave lots of free advice and tips, and people still went and screwed their entire garden up. I gave step by step plans with measurements and all, and they still burnt every plant. It’s just not worth my time or effort any more for someone to listen to half of my advice then get mad at me when they fail spectacularly. I’m not saying stuff just to see if they’ll do it.

I can feel the hermit in me coming out 🤣 this always happens once I’m neck deep into a subject. I learn all of the publicly available information I can get my hands on and then I’m left on the bleeding edge to figure it out on my own. When this happens I get annoyed by basic questions like how to water, or what container is best. I’m not sure what it is, and I don’t like it, but I imagine it has something to do with my ego and my autism smashing into each other making me borderline arrogant. My hope is that by journaling I can keep it in check. I don’t mind answering super basic questions around here, and I think it’s because people have to put in effort just to ask the question.
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Sorry you feel that way Keff. I hope you'll still peruse Gee's journal amongst others as your thoughts are always quite helpful and very informative.
 
Azimuth said:
Sorry you feel that way Keff. I hope you'll still peruse Gee's journal amongst others as your thoughts are always quite helpful and very informative.
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It’s all good here, it was real life stuff I was venting about. I enjoy helping people on the site. Even if people don’t take your advice there’s almost always a good conversation going on

I added an edit to it, I realized it read like I was talking about the site
 
Gee64 said:
It looks like it's going to be a fairly easy trim job😍. Three weeks can bring a lot of changes. As always Keff, Looking good👍👊
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That’s the only double edged bummer of growing like this.. little to no trimming is awesome, but then there’s no trim for hash or butter.

The stigmas on Revs still have that yellowish cream color, haven’t even gone fully white yet. However, I will agree that it can change fast especially the final 3 weeks. It probably helps I’ve actually got all the carbon and calcium in the pot, which is why flower is behaving slightly different than I’m used to
 
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