JustMeds R & D

I done a little experiment last night when watering and giving the Brix. The Brix mix used straight RO water, the soil water was a 50/50 mix with the well water. What I did not say yesterday was I warmed the water up to 90-100 degrees F before application. I will say I noticed a marked difference in the plants this morning. They all seemed to have developed a much more lush deep green color and just popped with growth. Wish I had a before picture, but here is an after. From what I see right now all my water will be warmed before application now. Maybe its like one of them nice warm mid summer rains everything just looks so lush and green after.

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I think the Sucker Punch, Super Lemon Haze and the 2 Kwazulu are going in the flower tent with the Blue Dream. Need to get some skirts lifted for a peek. Hope that don't turn into a long affair.
 
Water at 90-100 seems a bit high. That's not a educated response just from memory of growing hydro you don't want water that hot. Hence the reason why most run water chillers. Though it should be around the 80's and maybe even 70. Will have to do some research myself, and sorry if I'm wrong.
 
Yup feeding above 78 can be bad for roots and below 65 hard for them to uptake nutes or something.
 
I realize his in soil. Just would assume it would follow same temps in soil or hydro.
 
Darkscotia said:
Yup feeding above 78 can be bad for roots and below 65 hard for them to uptake nutes or something.
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Don't get me wrong I like input both for and against some of the crazy shit I do. I will be curious to hear Doc's input on this. If I can think of anyone that may have done this before his name is at top of list.

In hydro I agree 100% that is a sustained temperature environment. In soil it goes in that warm time it soaks in an inch temp has dropped a lot I am sure. It is an experiment and if I do damage its in the nature of science.. LOL . I have to say what I see in the plants yet tonight is very good. I know I will be doing it when they need watered again. From what I seen if someone was running a hydro system with a chiller and at res change could raise the temp to say 80-85 and let it circulate for a few hours then bring it down to normal hydro temp of 68 may be really interesting. In soil I think the warm temps really help the biology. Need to know the temps the good stuff can take along with the plants. I know that they raise the temps to 90-100 when making EM1. Maybe I made EM1 directly in the soil. Another thought on this is ... Our pores open up at higher temps, do the pores of roots do the same? Do roots have pores? That's for someone with way more brain cells then me.

I would love to see someone else try it and see if they notice a difference also. My other half went in the grow room today and come out and said "What the hell did you do to them, give them Viagra?". Maybe it was just the Molasses, not sure.
 
JustMeds said:
"What the hell did you do to them, give them Viagra?"
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Sounds like that was you're que and ya missed it.:whoa:

"Theres been many a man whose missed his chance because he wasn't ready".
 
Scrogdawg said:
Sounds like that was you're que and ya missed it.:whoa:

"Theres been many a man whose missed his chance because he wasn't ready".
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If it ever last's 4 hours she will have it wore to a point.
 
JustMeds R & D

JustMeds said:
Don't get me wrong I like input both for and against some of the crazy shit I do. I will be curious to hear Doc's input on this. If I can think of anyone that may have done this before his name is at top of list.

In hydro I agree 100% that is a sustained temperature environment. In soil it goes in that warm time it soaks in an inch temp has dropped a lot I am sure. It is an experiment and if I do damage its in the nature of science.. LOL . I have to say what I see in the plants yet tonight is very good. I know I will be doing it when they need watered again. From what I seen if someone was running a hydro system with a chiller and at res change could raise the temp to say 80-85 and let it circulate for a few hours then bring it down to normal hydro temp of 68 may be really interesting. In soil I think the warm temps really help the biology. Need to know the temps the good stuff can take along with the plants. I know that they raise the temps to 90-100 when making EM1. Maybe I made EM1 directly in the soil. Another thought on this is ... Our pores open up at higher temps, do the pores of roots do the same? Do roots have pores? That's for someone with way more brain cells then me.

I would love to see someone else try it and see if they notice a difference also. My other half went in the grow room today and come out and said "What the hell did you do to them, give them Viagra?". Maybe it was just the Molasses, not sure.
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One thing I do know is that when cooking soil we don't want it to get that warm. If the girls enjoy it that's all that matters really. And good luck getting answer from doc he's down bathing in the warm water right now on the islands with a bunch of other misfits
 
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Darkscotia said:
One thing I do know is that when cooking soil we don’t want it to get that warm. If the girls enjoy it that’s all that matters really. And good luck getting answer from doc he’s down bathing in the warm water right now on the islands with a bunch of other misfits
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Everyone enjoys a good warm bath.... LOL I guess I never paid attention to temp recommendations as far as the high. I seen 70 for a low.
 
Everyone looks great this morning. Slid the 3 into flower tent so today is the first short day for them. I got the scope on them and we have confirmed XX on the SLH and one Kwazulu :cheertwo:. The other I think is going to take a day or two. With the Sucker Punch being an Auto I left it in the VEG tent so it gets 18/6 light. Lowered the VEG light down a bit also. I am thinking I will be doing a lot of topping on the smaller plants this week. The clones are looking really good, which is nice knowing for sure 2/3 are female. The ball is rolling on project castration.
 
Hey meds. Was doing some poking around last night on docs website looking up something else for myself and came across somewhere that says while cooking soil you don't want room to get any warmer then 85f but doesn't say if going over 85 what exactly would happen other then soil would be possibly done cooking sooner. Hope this helps some.
 
Darkscotia said:
Hey meds. Was doing some poking around last night on docs website looking up something else for myself and came across somewhere that says while cooking soil you don’t want room to get any warmer then 85f but doesn’t say if going over 85 what exactly would happen other then soil would be possibly done cooking sooner. Hope this helps some.
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If the soil gets above 85F while cooking it can become anaerobic, causing pathogens to form which will ruin the soil biology. Doc does recommend using warmed water during cold months to help with the uptake of nutrients and to help the microherd thrive. I do not recall what temp he suggests for the warmed water but I would have guessed around 80F. You're plants are happy and thats what matters.

On another note Doc recommends not using molasses with his gear. From what he has said, the molasses is used to feed the microherd and with his soil we want the microherd to eat the minerals that are in it. If they get molasses the microherd will get lazy and stop eating the rocks. When that happens it throws off the balance in the soil and kind of screws up the chemistry of everything. You are welcome to do as you want in your grow and I am in no way telling you what to do, I just wanted to put that out there in case you missed it.
 
TheGreenYeti said:
If the soil gets above 85F while cooking it can become anaerobic, causing pathogens to form which will ruin the soil biology. Doc does recommend using warmed water during cold months to help with the uptake of nutrients and to help the microherd thrive. I do not recall what temp he suggests for the warmed water but I would have guessed around 80F. You're plants are happy and thats what matters.
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I can understand that in cooking the soil. Sure I did not have that trouble during the cooking was worried I would not be able to keep it 70. I am sold on the warm water helping right now for sure. I can for sure drop the temp to 80 if needed.

TheGreenYeti said:
On another note Doc recommends not using molasses with his gear. From what he has said, the molasses is used to feed the microherd and with his soil we want the microherd to eat the minerals that are in it. If they get molasses the microherd will get lazy and stop eating the rocks. When that happens it throws off the balance in the soil and kind of screws up the chemistry of everything. You are welcome to do as you want in your grow and I am in no way telling you what to do, I just wanted to put that out there in case you missed it.
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I wonder if giving them a good meal every now and then would help them to thrive and reproduce?
 
Ok, looked into ideal water temps for watering plants. 68-72 is ideal. Now I am really confused as to why I seen all the growth overnight. Maybe it was just luck of the draw I guess. Anyways will not be warming water anymore either. Room temp it is from here forward.

Only harm I can see from this experiment is a fat microherd that's not hungry for the next few days.
 
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