Jon's Sneak It In Auto Grow

[Jon]

I don't smoke at all, so I'm more looking for an efficient way to extract the goodies without some elaborate machine setup for use in edibles and tinctures. And for both trim and flower.

Interestingly, my first run at making the Dust was with cured and well dried bud, while my second was a rush job to try out my new CBD harvest. It's the second that is quite bitter, no doubt based on your comments to be the unprocessed chlorophyll. It also was much fluffier, likely because it wasn't as dry to begin with.

So maybe my conclusions are misplaced and I just have to be more patient with curing before processing into dust, though I do like the idea of using pure trichomes rather than a mix with them and plant material.

Well, regardless of what you do with it and what the end product you ingest is, chlorophyll is always going to suck. If you want it as easy as humanly possible grab a Trim Bin and try it my lazy man’s way. As far as kiefing buds themselves, a couple things:
- you’ll get more
- it’ll be way stronger
- don’t EVER sell or give away bud that has been kiefed, that’s slimy
- if you want to try a batch of kiefing buds, I suggest using a pair of scissors to cut the buds up as small as you have the patience for first, then freeze it overnight. And use DRY dry dry buds! Just be gentle and remember that the first pass in the Trim Bin will always be your cleanest.

 

[Jon]

So you’re the felonious type too I see, wonder how many of @420 Magazine members are? I’m sure glad I got smart enough to stop doing things that got me there. lol CL.

I was….now I’m just felonious in terms of I’m going to grow wherever I live regardless of the laws there. Lmao.

 

[Jon]

I was….now I’m just felonious in terms of I’m going to grow wherever I live regardless of the laws there. Lmao.

Oh yeah…this -

wonder how many of @420 Magazine members are?

Brother, we’re all criminals on some level at heart.

Heh.

 

[Jon]

Apple Fritter
Day 111
Partial Harvest

Took the big tops and all the stuff closest to the light. Is it early? Yes, obviously. Does it matter? Nope. I have F-ed up this plant 7 ways to Sunday. For many reasons. It sucks and won’t be anywhere near representative of the Apple Fritter. Thank god for @KeithLemon (‘s) Apple Fritter - someone who grew it properly. All these buds just continue to dry and burn. Already I lost most of the main very tops - a couple inches down on each before we hit green. Awful work. And it’s fine. I’ll get it right next time. It will end up that I will have brought 7 of 8 plants in this grow home as well as I am capable. No sense stressing one loser. Sorry Keith, I messed up the comparison. Anyway, here’s what it looks like. Ouch.

 

[Jon]

Apple Fritter
Day 111
Partial Harvest

Took the big tops and all the stuff closest to the light. Is it early? Yes, obviously. Does it matter? Nope. I have F-ed up this plant 7 ways to Sunday. For many reasons. It sucks and won’t be anywhere near representative of the Apple Fritter. Thank god for @KeithLemon (‘s) Apple Fritter - someone who grew it properly. All these buds just continue to dry and burn. Already I lost most of the main very tops - a couple inches down on each before we hit green. Awful work. And it’s fine. I’ll get it right next time. It will end up that I will have brought 7 of 8 plants in this grow home as well as I am capable. No sense stressing one loser. Sorry Keith, I messed up the comparison. Anyway, here’s what it looks like. Ouch.

Although I will admit that it stings a bit that I had to mess up the highest yielding and potentially highest thc plant…..if I’m lucky I’ll end up with three or four ounces of decent buds. Grown right this was a 12-14 ounce plant.

 

[NickHardy]

I spent a day in a temporary jail aged 16 in Castle Carey AKA where they put you after they bust you with a zip and a half of hash on the way in to the Glastonbury Festival in 1995!

Def the best I’ve been in

 

[Jon]

Apple Fritter
Day 111
Partial Harvest

Took the big tops and all the stuff closest to the light. Is it early? Yes, obviously. Does it matter? Nope. I have F-ed up this plant 7 ways to Sunday. For many reasons. It sucks and won’t be anywhere near representative of the Apple Fritter. Thank god for @KeithLemon (‘s) Apple Fritter - someone who grew it properly. All these buds just continue to dry and burn. Already I lost most of the main very tops - a couple inches down on each before we hit green. Awful work. And it’s fine. I’ll get it right next time. It will end up that I will have brought 7 of 8 plants in this grow home as well as I am capable. No sense stressing one loser. Sorry Keith, I messed up the comparison. Anyway, here’s what it looks like. Ouch.

Took the rest. Tossed the entire lower half of the plant. Literally half the plant. Just bagged it and it’s on the curb in a garbage can. Wow. Haven’t screwed one up that badly in quite a while. Lmao!

 

[NickHardy]

The best producing and strongest roisin I’ve made is from a cola just like that, yellowed and dried. One joint with that added roisin poleaxed 4 Russian dispensary owners that live life with bongs strapped to their necks, me and half the bar next door

 

[KeithLemon]

Apple Fritter
Day 111
Partial Harvest

Took the big tops and all the stuff closest to the light. Is it early? Yes, obviously. Does it matter? Nope. I have F-ed up this plant 7 ways to Sunday. For many reasons. It sucks and won’t be anywhere near representative of the Apple Fritter. Thank god for @KeithLemon (‘s) Apple Fritter - someone who grew it properly. All these buds just continue to dry and burn. Already I lost most of the main very tops - a couple inches down on each before we hit green. Awful work. And it’s fine. I’ll get it right next time. It will end up that I will have brought 7 of 8 plants in this grow home as well as I am capable. No sense stressing one loser. Sorry Keith, I messed up the comparison. Anyway, here’s what it looks like. Ouch.

What's wrong with that. It looks like a huge nug. 7 out of 8 I would call very good.

 

[Jon]

I spent a day in a temporary jail aged 16 in Castle Carey AKA where they put you after they bust you with a zip and a half of hash on the way in to the Glastonbury Festival in 1995!

Def the best I’ve been in

Of course! Cuz we all smoke an ounce and half of hash in one weekend. Duh.

The best producing and strongest roisin I’ve made is from a cola just like that, yellowed and dried. One joint with that added roisin poleaxed 4 Russian dispensary owners that live life with bongs strapped to their necks, me and half the bar next door

Well, I did keep all the big colas that were hard and still green. There’s 8 or 9 ounces hanging. I just suspect hardly any of it makes the jars. This will be the weed I give my nieces when they visit. They’ll think it’s great.

 

[Jon]

What's wrong with that. It looks like a huge nug. 7 out of 8 I would call very good.

Ah Keith, my friend - I sense you are not quite getting it. Your standards are about to change as soon as you harvest these girls of yours!!! You have grown (are growing) spectacular plants. Your buds are gonna be amazing. After this harvest, look at my bud again and let me know if it’s still a 7 of 8.

I say all that with the best of intentions in case it sounds otherwise. All I mean is that you’ll soon know how crap my harvest is.

 

[Jon]

Of course! Cuz we all smoke an ounce and half of hash in one weekend. Duh.

Well, I did keep all the big colas that were hard and still green. There’s 8 or 9 ounces hanging. I just suspect hardly any of it makes the jars. This will be the weed I give my nieces when they visit. They’ll think it’s great.

Everything I tossed looked like a bud but if you squeezed it it went flat with hardly any pressure. The whole bottom of the plant was empty buds. I kept most of the top, only losing the branches of thinner buds, cuz even the upper thinner buds squeezed flat. Basically I kept the rock hard stuff. And it’s a lot of bud. But I already know that since they finished flower (more like the entire second half of flower) with no leaves, the buds are going to be seriously compromised. They’re sticky and hard but I highly doubt they’ll get me (or you) high. I hope I’m wrong!!!

 

[KeithLemon]

Ah Keith, my friend - I sense you are not quite getting it. Your standards are about to change as soon as you harvest these girls of yours!!! You have grown (are growing) spectacular plants. Your buds are gonna be amazing. After this harvest, look at my bud again and let me know if it’s still a 7 of 8.

I say all that with the best of intentions in case it sounds otherwise. All I mean is that you’ll soon know how crap my harvest is.

Jon I went to school on the apple fritter and you were the teacher if you remember I was not sure at all about the trimming of this plant early on and you coached me through it for that I say thanks. i am no afraid any more to get in there and take the larf and redundant leaves.

 

[Jon]

Ok one off topic quickie…

I just saw that they have kicked Jan Wenner out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Why? He’s basically retired, he wrote his memoirs, and in it, he posted a list of who he thought were the greatest songwriters in history. There were no women on the list. No Joni Mitchell. No whoever you’d put in. All men. (Dylan/Garcia were #1 and 2). So the powers that be, for whatever their reason (that was the one mentioned) decided the right thing to do was kick my man out of the HOF.

Dude was a monster. What Rob has done with this site for growers is perhaps roughly akin to what Wenner did for the musicians back in the day. How many did Rolling Stone put on the map? How many would people never have heard of if not for him? Not to mention he’d have been in just as a musician.

This is crap.

Ok I’m done. Thanks for your indulgence.

 

[Jon]

Jon I went to school on the apple fritter and you were the teacher if you remember I was not sure at all about the trimming of this plant early on and you coached me through it for that I say thanks. i am no afraid any more to get in there and take the larf and redundant leaves.

Keith you’re the man and your kind words mean a lot to me. Just finish her out in style for us, eh?

 

[Fenderbender]

Dammit, I'm at page 13 of the thread cause I was trying to figure out how? and there you describe in one post that you established canopy and did some training.
But I feel that process there early on is very important in how the plant will turn out.
And it's sometimes just small adjustments as I feel before I was maybe guiding out a bit too much just constantly keep pulling everything under the net creating a multitude of sidenugs.
Now I try to be a bit more careful to get the tops.
Can you come take a look if it's the right approach?

 

[Azimuth]

Ok one off topic quickie…

I just saw that they have kicked Jan Wenner out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Why? He’s basically retired, he wrote his memoirs, and in it, he posted a list of who he thought were the greatest songwriters in history. There were no women on the list. No Joni Mitchell. No whoever you’d put in. All men. (Dylan/Garcia were #1 and 2). So the powers that be, for whatever their reason (that was the one mentioned) decided the right thing to do was kick my man out of the HOF.

Dude was a monster. What Rob has done with this site for growers is perhaps roughly akin to what Wenner did for the musicians back in the day. How many did Rolling Stone put on the map? How many would people never have heard of if not for him? Not to mention he’d have been in just as a musician.

This is crap.

Ok I’m done. Thanks for your indulgence.

It's all that woke crap. I'm hoping the pendulum has finally swung too far and we'll come back to a more normal and realistic view of the world.

I blame it all on the "everyone gets a trophy" culture that started decades ago. Now we've got those people influencing the world and nobody's pushing back so, just like little kids who are trying to find out where the limits are, they keep pushing and pushing.

 

[NickHardy]

Hey buddy - yeah you know I’m a Johnny Positive - your problems with that plant weren’t/aren’t clear to me just teying some suggestions for alternatives. A $200 press I reckon is right up your alley, though

Of course! Cuz we all smoke an ounce and half of hash in one weekend. Duh.

I got released on the day, lawyer Dad doing his first ever WFH day prepped me on what to say, kinda. We tag teamed the cops. Very funny. So avoided a night in a kids home and driven back the next day in police car and walked in to the festival that eveing.

I had a ticket, 4 packets of Marlboro Lights, ten packets of Rizla. assorted sizes, 3 clipper lighters and two 5 pence coins. The hash was pre booked sales to my mates, picked it up the night before. Couldn’t deliver as nicked “arrested” for it and no one in our nasty (standard) teenaged years settled up for it! I was so broke the whole weekend!

I'm hoping the pendulum has finally swung too far

I think we’re nearly there - hope so!

If people learnt the importance of this brilliant quote/epigraph from a great book reckon the world would be a happier place:

“The past is a foreign country, they do things differently there”

(The Go Between)

 

[InTheShed]

With bud, every bit of green is not bitter and chlorophyll filled. Not nearly like the leaves. Remove the kief from a sugar leaf and it’s the same as a fan in terms of unpalatability. But much of the bud itself, if you could remove all the kief and keep the bud intact, would likely not taste bitter I suspect.

Aren't the calyxes green too? Don't we cure to get rid of the leftover chlorophyll in the flowers we're keeping? And how do you get the kief out of the parts of the flower that would never touch the screen without grinding them onto the screen?

Although I will admit that it stings a bit that I had to mess up the highest yielding and potentially highest thc plant…..if I’m lucky I’ll end up with three or four ounces of decent buds. Grown right this was a 12-14 ounce plant.
The whole bottom of the plant was empty buds.

First you tell us about the goodness of kief and then you toss half a plant (fluffy or not) that surely was loaded with trichomes? That's just crazy!

A $200 press I reckon is right up your alley, though

This, along with bubble/dry ice hash.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Although I will admit that it stings a bit that I had to mess up the highest yielding and potentially highest thc plant…..if I’m lucky I’ll end up with three or four ounces of decent buds. Grown right this was a 12-14 ounce plant.

Doo Doo Occurs! Lil bit of sumthin is better than nothing. We all know that yer gonna rock it next time Jon. CL.