Jon's Outdoor Winter Photoperiod Grow

Jon said:
Ok @Azimuth, now we’re in reality land. So are you serious? All I have to do is mash up a banana and seal it in a container with what? Do I use the peels? The seed? (Or whatever that thing is at the bottom, lol?). How long? Then what? Got a link? This I would actually do.
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Well, yes. Two different versions, actually...

KNF Version (Korean Natural Farming)
A banana fruit and/or peel (banana seeds?? What the hell kind of bananas do you guys eat in Fl?), along with an equal amount of brown sugar by weight and a pinch of microbes.

Fill a container about 2/3rds full and top with a coffee filter held on by a rubber band or something to keep the bugs out.

The sugar helps pull the goodies out of the cell walls through osmosis and after a week or two you filter out the solids from the collected liquid and dilute 1:1,000 with non-chlorinated water.

Jadam Version
Fill a container half way with non-chlorinated water and add banana and/or peels (and yes, seeds if you can find them :rolleyes:), and a pinch of microbes and cover.

This version can also be used within a week or two but gets better with age.

A word of caution on this version. You'll want to keep the lid on nice a tight so the "fragrance" doesn't get loose.

And you can do either with many types of inputs, from fast growing plants like grape, to any of the more medicinal plants like aloe and willow, and beyond.

I make these extracts from the leaves I trim off and post flip larf for strain specific nutes.
 
New Look in Trenchtown!!

I redid the big tent today, since it was res change Saturday anyway. She got a warm water and lemon juice mopping, (the tent, not the plant), tent overall cleanup, and most importantly, got off the supports. Yup, I bit the bullet and came down to floor level. Lowered the light. Gives me maximum light raising potential and makes the whole thing much cleaner.

It also showcases the Platinum Mimosa Cookies XXL Auto pretty well. At least you can more readily get a sense for scale. She’s big.

Also, I did it alone so I couldn’t take a picture, but the roots in the res are now about as big around as a volleyball. Big and dense. The res is maybe 40% full of roots, so I have some time yet.

Wow! I now see this plant will very easily fill this res completely with roots by the end of flower of not before.

Also makes me already realize I’ll need a second, larger res for the White Widow.

Heh.

Here’s the new look. This tent is two years of non stop growing old and I lost the liner. That’s as clean as she gets. Lol.

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Azimuth said:
Well, yes. Two different versions, actually...

KNF Version (Korean Natural Farming)
A banana fruit and/or peel (banana seeds?? What the hell kind of bananas do you guys eat in Fl?), along with an equal amount of brown sugar by weight and a pinch of microbes.

Fill a container about 2/3rds full and top with a coffee filter held on by a rubber band or something to keep the bugs out.

The sugar helps pull the goodies out of the cell walls through osmosis and after a week or two you filter out the solids from the collected liquid and dilute 1:1,000 with non-chlorinated water.

Jadam Version
Fill a container half way with non-chlorinated water and add banana and/or peels (and yes, seeds if you can find them :rolleyes:), and a pinch of microbes and cover.

This version can also be used within a week or two but gets better with age.

A word of caution on this version. You'll want to keep the lid on nice a tight so the "fragrance" doesn't get loose.

And you can do either with many types of inputs, from fast growing plants like grape, to any of the more medicinal plants like aloe and willow, and beyond.

I make these extracts from the leaves I trim off and post flip larf for strain specific nutes.
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Damnit. Now I have to read your KNF/Jadam thing. :laugh:

I thought the thing at the bottom was the one seed per banana. Lol.

Thanks!
 
Jon said:
Fricking Azimuth is going to post a link on how to make a home fisherie.
:laugh: :laugh:
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Like six people read my stuff, which is bad enough. Three of them are smart asses. Oy vey. :laugh:
 
Jon said:
Like six people read my stuff, which is bad enough. Three of them are smart asses. Oy vey. :laugh:
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Wait, what? Both the reference  and the comment to it are both yours!?! :hmmmm:
 
Jon said:
Fricking Azimuth is going to post a link on how to make a home fisherie.
:laugh: :laugh:
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Well, I did build an aquaponics setup. Wanna discuss that? :rolleyes:
 
The many phases of Trenchtown...nice collection. :)

Azimuth said:
14 months for harvest? Probably not gonna happen with this crowd since a 12  week cycle is more than most growers on this site will tolerate. 🍌
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My pineapple plants from tops or slips take at least two years before they fruit!
 
Platinum Mimosa Cookies XXL Auto
Day 45

This form of bucket growing has worked out well so far. She is blemish free. I’ve learned at this point approximately when to begin to up the CalMag %, and I think I’ve nailed it on this girl. She’s a bud factory. When she gets fat she’s going to be beautiful. She has tons of fat fans for power and they’re all to the outside and not in the way. She has roots for days in the res, and the AirPot is so root laden that it takes the water a while to get down through it. Changing the res once a week has also worked out. It’s so easy. I just fill a new bucket and switch over the lid. Piece of cake.

I noticed her rate of consumption has gone into overdrive the last few days. Where before it would take a half gallon in the morning to top her off, now it takes almost a whole gallon. Crazy.

Here’s today.

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Azimuth said:
Well, I did build an aquaponics setup. Wanna discuss that? :rolleyes:
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Hey @Azimuth, you’re great at haunting everyone else’s journals. :laugh:
When do we get to haunt an Azi journal!? How one wins MOTM with no journal is beyond me. Lmao!!!
 
Jon said:
Platinum Mimosa Cookies XXL Auto
Day 45

This form of bucket growing has worked out well so far. She is blemish free. I’ve learned at this point approximately when to begin to up the CalMag %, and I think I’ve nailed it on this girl. She’s a bud factory. When she gets fat she’s going to be beautiful. She has tons of fat fans for power and they’re all to the outside and not in the way. She has roots for days in the res, and the AirPot is so root laden that it takes the water a while to get down through it. Changing the res once a week has also worked out. It’s so easy. I just fill a new bucket and switch over the lid. Piece of cake.

I noticed her rate of consumption has gone into overdrive the last few days. Where before it would take a half gallon in the morning to top her off, now it takes almost a whole gallon. Crazy.

Here’s today.

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When do you up the CalMag and how much?
 
Hafta said:
When do you up the CalMag and how much?
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Hey @Hafta - I’ve found it differs by strain a lot, so all I’m shooting for is a starter reference point where I know approximately the earliest I need to begin and in a perfect world the other end of that range. One can easily find out the hard way, as I have more than once, and just wait til you see obvious CalMag deficiency signs and back it up a week or two to find the starting point. Lol! But it seems to happen under LED almost every time when growing anything more than regular soil plants. I theorize that the accelerated growth in hydro or coco is in some way related to this. So all that said….

The answer is sometime in early flower. With this plant I began to raise it when I saw budlets. Raising it is this: base is 5 ml/gallon of week 4 @Prescription Blend flowering feed. When I begin to raise I simply add 1 ml/ week up to 10, although I’ve never gotten past 7. Right now this plant gets 7 ml/gallon first thing in the mix every time. She’s fine. No signs of deficiency. No signs of coming deficiency. I’ll hold there until/unless I see signs. I watch closely. For me, once I’ve gotten the plant this far, it is the only thing that can derail me.

Helpful?
 
So now that we’ve achieved the type of stemmage and vertical length we wanted it’s time to spread our girl out a little bit and let her breathe.

Heh. She’s a big damn auto.

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Jon said:
Hey @Hafta - I’ve found it differs by strain a lot, so all I’m shooting for is a starter reference point where I know approximately the earliest I need to begin and in a perfect world the other end of that range. One can easily find out the hard way, as I have more than once, and just wait til you see obvious CalMag deficiency signs and back it up a week or two to find the starting point. Lol! But it seems to happen under LED almost every time when growing anything more than regular soil plants. I theorize that the accelerated growth in hydro or coco is in some way related to this. So all that said….

The answer is sometime in early flower. With this plant I began to raise it when I saw budlets. Raising it is this: base is 5 ml/gallon of week 4 @Prescription Blend flowering feed. When I begin to raise I simply add 1 ml/ week up to 10, although I’ve never gotten past 7. Right now this plant gets 7 ml/gallon first thing in the mix every time. She’s fine. No signs of deficiency. No signs of coming deficiency. I’ll hold there until/unless I see signs. I watch closely. For me, once I’ve gotten the plant this far, it is the only thing that can derail me.

Helpful?
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Yes, very helpful.
My current Blue Dream has had a history of showing the Calmag deficiency, even during veg. I have been giving it plenty of LED light, even too much (I even stunted a couple of flowers). I ended up doubling the Calmag over a period of three weeks during veg and saw some indication of too much magnesium intake (res change required).
I have found another source of calcium without magnesium. I will try this when I see signs of a calcium deficiency.

Thanks again.
 
Seeds, seeds and more seeds….

Once again, North Atlantic Seed Company knocking it out of the park!

A couple things about this particular haul:

- first try with an Ethos auto
- if you get a freebie mystery seed that turns out to be anything from Humboldt Seed Company you have gotten very lucky - this is a freebie you can grow with confidence. It will not hermie. In this case, I’ve grown the Sour Apple Auto many times, and this combo just has to be good!
- another cool jar sticker in another cool color
- note that when you buy an Ethos order they hook you up - this Zwag #23 x Grandpas Cookies #6 (???, lol) is three seeds!
- I placed this order last Monday

Thank you NASC! :adore:

Also dropped one of the HSC auto freebies. More psyched about that combo than the Banana Daddy combo. Lol!

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