Jon’s 3 Autoflower - 3 Pounds Attempt Grow

On Up Potting

I have had a few people ask me why I up pot with the old pot so high up in the new pot. It appears to be maybe too much of a hill to some I guess. The reason I do that is to turn a 7-gallon pot into almost an 8. By uppotting high like I do, I just level a lower trough to water. All goes right up to the old root ball and out. That’s how I mitigate the water just rolling off. It allows me to really cram the pot full. Gives the roots maybe 6 more inches or something like that.

Hey, every little bit helps. Heh.



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White Widow
Day 21


Hard to believe she’s been up potted three times in 21 days. Coco rules. This girl has taken to it extremely well and has perked way up for the first time since she began! She literally looks better after up potting than she did before.

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I'm not following this at all! It looks like the water would run down the sides unless you're watering with a sprayer.
Me too Shed! Jon is on another level…
 
A Word or Two on the Pot Setups

It would seem to me that both these pots are pretty straight forward - you guys certainly “get” what I’m hoping to do here. But the first chore, and the one that pretty much determines if it’s going to “work,” is to get the roots growing outward in the lower pot of the pyramids. This was my main concern/wonder-about thing. Would the roots just grow down in a cylinder as begun in the upper pot? Or could I get them to fill the upper pot and EXPAND in the lower one? That was pretty much the deal right there, besides all the long tap root and such. If they would expand outward and I work towards filling BOTH pots with roots - that’s the whole idea.

So is it working? By now we should know.

Whoa.

Yeah, it’s working. My mouth is on the floor.

I’ve been watering them big down the middle of the upper pot, and smaller around the line where the upper pot meets the dirt (coco) of the lower. The ring around the pot if you will, lol.

These pictures show you a couple things. Firstly they show you two plants going completely apeshit in veg. And secondly they show you how wide out the roots are, so far, in the lower pots. Tested with the stake, it’s easy to tell. It’s only an inch or two, but it’s solid in a ring all the way around out to the stake spots. Note that the air pot roots are further out than the water pot roots. I attribute this to the fact that the air pot is significantly smaller than the upper pot on the WWC, so the roots got to the lower pot faster. All that means we are on our way and it’s working!!! Oh, and it also shows you a little more clearly the vision for the training, which by now is pretty clear. Those upper colas are going to be long. I can’t wait to see.

When the Watermelon WeddingCake hits that res the day I get back I think we are going to see something crazy. I know this plant now. I can speak to her. And she’s ready to show us everything she’s got. I can’t see it but I know that the roots have reached that plate inside where the water line will be. I suspect there’s a good volume of roots down there just waiting for water.

Anyway, hadn’t addressed this since the beginning, and since it’s pretty much the entire deal and chance for success, I figured it was time for the update. If the lower pots didn’t fill out, the benefit of the setup would be lessened and more questionable. A month in I figured we’d know.

Fricking NOICE.

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Me too Shed! Jon is on another level…
Hi @InTheShed and @Thirvnrob - okay, understand the confusion. Perhaps this helps clarify? I see it like this: I have no need to water down the middle. I still do and will, and when I do I just do it very slowly, right down the stem. But 90%+ of the time I can just water a large ring around the outside. And in the case of uppotting, that tells me I don’t have to bury the first root ball. I can leave it up and level the outer ring where I water. These pictures show you what I mean for two angles, I hope they help. Does this help to clarify? And honestly Thirvnrob, I’m not on any different level. Everything I do I learned the basics of from folks like Shed here and many others. I just take that and try to tweak and have fun with it. But thanks for the kind words there.

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I just went back in time and looked at pictures of my White Widow @ Day 21.

I'm not going to show you o_O

Cheers
Not sure which end you’re coming from here @Chuckeye - :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley: I guess you are saying there’s a difference? Is it significant? I’ve never grown White Widow. No idea if mine is doing well or not?
 
Not sure which end you’re coming from here @Chuckeye - :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley: :cheesygrinsmiley: I guess you are saying there’s a difference? Is it significant? I’ve never grown White Widow. No idea if mine is doing well or not?
LOL
Yes, a MAJOR difference, in a Good way for you :yahoo:

I did veg for 50 days and she gave me 8 oz., I won't even guess what yours is going to be capable of !

And I think you will enjoy her. I am a light weight but a one hit pipe full will have me on the couch watching TV for half an hour ;)

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Cheers
 
A Word or Two on the Pot Setups

It would seem to me that both these pots are pretty straight forward - you guys certainly “get” what I’m hoping to do here. But the first chore, and the one that pretty much determines if it’s going to “work,” is to get the roots growing outward in the lower pot of the pyramids. This was my main concern/wonder-about thing. Would the roots just grow down in a cylinder as begun in the upper pot? Or could I get them to fill the upper pot and EXPAND in the lower one? That was pretty much the deal right there, besides all the long tap root and such. If they would expand outward and I work towards filling BOTH pots with roots - that’s the whole idea.

So is it working? By now we should know.

Whoa.

Yeah, it’s working. My mouth is on the floor.

I’ve been watering them big down the middle of the upper pot, and smaller around the line where the upper pot meets the dirt (coco) of the lower. The ring around the pot if you will, lol.

These pictures show you a couple things. Firstly they show you two plants going completely apeshit in veg. And secondly they show you how wide out the roots are, so far, in the lower pots. Tested with the stake, it’s easy to tell. It’s only an inch or two, but it’s solid in a ring all the way around out to the stake spots. Note that the air pot roots are further out than the water pot roots. I attribute this to the fact that the air pot is significantly smaller than the upper pot on the WWC, so the roots got to the lower pot faster. All that means we are on our way and it’s working!!! Oh, and it also shows you a little more clearly the vision for the training, which by now is pretty clear. Those upper colas are going to be long. I can’t wait to see.

When the Watermelon WeddingCake hits that res the day I get back I think we are going to see something crazy. I know this plant now. I can speak to her. And she’s ready to show us everything she’s got. I can’t see it but I know that the roots have reached that plate inside where the water line will be. I suspect there’s a good volume of roots down there just waiting for water.

Anyway, hadn’t addressed this since the beginning, and since it’s pretty much the entire deal and chance for success, I figured it was time for the update. If the lower pots didn’t fill out, the benefit of the setup would be lessened and more questionable. A month in I figured we’d know.

Fricking NOICE.

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Wow for 3 weeks that’s incredible, very impressive 😍👍
 
A Word or Two on the Pot Setups

It would seem to me that both these pots are pretty straight forward - you guys certainly “get” what I’m hoping to do here. But the first chore, and the one that pretty much determines if it’s going to “work,” is to get the roots growing outward in the lower pot of the pyramids. This was my main concern/wonder-about thing. Would the roots just grow down in a cylinder as begun in the upper pot? Or could I get them to fill the upper pot and EXPAND in the lower one? That was pretty much the deal right there, besides all the long tap root and such. If they would expand outward and I work towards filling BOTH pots with roots - that’s the whole idea.

So is it working? By now we should know.

Whoa.

Yeah, it’s working. My mouth is on the floor.

I’ve been watering them big down the middle of the upper pot, and smaller around the line where the upper pot meets the dirt (coco) of the lower. The ring around the pot if you will, lol.

These pictures show you a couple things. Firstly they show you two plants going completely apeshit in veg. And secondly they show you how wide out the roots are, so far, in the lower pots. Tested with the stake, it’s easy to tell. It’s only an inch or two, but it’s solid in a ring all the way around out to the stake spots. Note that the air pot roots are further out than the water pot roots. I attribute this to the fact that the air pot is significantly smaller than the upper pot on the WWC, so the roots got to the lower pot faster. All that means we are on our way and it’s working!!! Oh, and it also shows you a little more clearly the vision for the training, which by now is pretty clear. Those upper colas are going to be long. I can’t wait to see.

When the Watermelon WeddingCake hits that res the day I get back I think we are going to see something crazy. I know this plant now. I can speak to her. And she’s ready to show us everything she’s got. I can’t see it but I know that the roots have reached that plate inside where the water line will be. I suspect there’s a good volume of roots down there just waiting for water.

Anyway, hadn’t addressed this since the beginning, and since it’s pretty much the entire deal and chance for success, I figured it was time for the update. If the lower pots didn’t fill out, the benefit of the setup would be lessened and more questionable. A month in I figured we’d know.

Fricking NOICE.

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She's going to go nutzer when you get her in water too!
 
LOL
Yes, a MAJOR difference, in a Good way for you :yahoo:

I did veg for 50 days and she gave me 8 oz., I won't even guess what yours is going to be capable of !

And I think you will enjoy her. I am a light weight but a one hit pipe full will have me on the couch watching TV for half an hour ;)

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Cheers
Oh that’s awesome why not show it!!!! Thanks!
LOL
Yes, a MAJOR difference, in a Good way for you :yahoo:

I did veg for 50 days and she gave me 8 oz., I won't even guess what yours is going to be capable of !

And I think you will enjoy her. I am a light weight but a one hit pipe full will have me on the couch watching TV for half an hour ;)

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Cheers
50 day veg on a photo I guess…hey I’ll take half a pound of buds like that any day of the week! That’s a good haul! This White Widow is an auto so I ain’t getting no 50 days of veg. If she is even close to 8 ounces I’d be super happy. She’s not part of the 3 lb self challenge so whatever she gives me is bonus weed!
 
Yup. That’s what I think too. I’m scared. :cheesygrinsmiley:
@Jon , based on my experiments with my SIPs (Sub Irrigated Planters) I've found it takes 10-15 days for a normal soil plant to convert some roots to water roots and head into the water reservoir.

You might consider adding some water to the reservoir now before you leave. You don't have to fill it, but the plant will sense the water and start working on those roots.

You say she talks to you so go ahead and ask her. I'll bet she'd agree with me. :laughtwo:
 
@Jon , based on my experiments with my SIPs (Sub Irrigated Planters) I've found it takes 10-15 days for a normal soil plant to convert some roots to water roots and head into the water reservoir.

You might consider adding some water to the reservoir now before you leave. You don't have to fill it, but the plant will sense the water and start working on those roots.

You say she talks to you so go ahead and ask her. I'll bet she'd agree with me. :laughtwo:
Ha! I did and I will! You are absolutely right @Azimuth, you beat me to it. Know how I really know? There is runoff right now up to the roots. For the last day they’ve been bottom and top feeding. Imma clean it out, fill it half to 3/4 of the way, turn on the air stone, and let it go for four days. See what happens. Thanks!!!
 
White Widow Training Time
Day 21
Busy day for our girl, lol


Well now that we did that I see she has a bit more going on than I thought. Awesome. Sorry to fans of that pretty little bush. Gotta make her ugly before she gets pretty.

Edit: we are using the same “Sombrero” training style with the White Widow as the other two plants.

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