Jgrowlove's 50 Fire Strain Hunt: 1000W HPS

Ouch, bummer. if they are early enough,,, like said that Green Cleaner from Old Stage works great and doesn't leave alot of residue.. But when they are just about done,,, pick the bad spots and shove in a corner? If you have the room. Bummer bout the PM I seen alittle early in flower this time.. I'd been lacking on spraying of my plants as they come into flower. I did have to cull acouple. GL I hope you get a handle on it.. You can make a weak solution and use a little spray bottle to wash the infected leaf too before handling.

GL and Keepem Green
 
It gave me chills to see the picture. Eek!

The skim milk was impressively effective. Just do it once a week like clockwork and it'll keep the mildew at bay. Then a simple wash with H2O2 at harvest and you're done. I toss any leaves showing signs of pm, but after the peroxide wash they're not a concern anymore. Of course, anything heavily infected gets clipped, bundled up tight and tossed into the frozen trash can outdoors. :straightface:

I always saved the area that had infestation for last, then jumped into the shower and put on clean clothes. Cross-contamination is a real concern with these little diversions.

Carnival is one of the most vigorous chemovars, isn't it? No matter what they look good. Probably because we remember how wonderful the buzz is. :laughtwo:
 
Black DOG is living up to her name, I see. :high-five:
 
Hi Sue,

Hey how much do you dilute your skim milk? When I sprayed I either used 2% or vitamin D milk and it really stuck around. I definitely would not use it on a mostly finished bud.... I wonder if the skim milk would leave less residue and be just as effective. I still love this Green cleaner stuff... spendy but oh it gets the job done and the girls seem to look pretty perky after...

Good luck with the PM, J!

:hippy:
 
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That pm is sneaky.
Watching to see how the skim milk does for ya.
 
lazyfish said:
Hi Sue,

Hey how much do you dilute your skim milk? When I sprayed I either used 2% or vitamin D milk and it really stuck around. I definitely would not use it on a mostly finished bud.... I wonder if the skim milk would leave less residue and be just as effective. I still love this Green cleaner stuff... spendy but oh it gets the job done and the girls seem to look pretty perky after...

Good luck with the PM, J!

:hippy:
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I had pm hit in the Spa area, my bathroom, with three plants in late flower. The Malawi was close enough to harvest that she got chopped immediately and washed with a stronger than normal dilution of H2O2. I only lost a small portion of that harvest.

The Jamaican and Blue Dream in with her were still a week or more from harvest, and I wasn't willing to sacrifice them, so I sprayed with skim milk. Skim doesn't contain the fat that'll smell to high heaven. Skim will only kill the pm. No dilution necessary. It coats the plant in a way that makes us nervous, but has no detrimental effect on the plant.

After you harvest you do a good budwash, and everything is like new. If it's a large harvest you might consider having a second setup of H2O2 dilution for the first wash, giving you the option to move to cleaner water, but other than that I found following the first wash with two clear water rinses got all of the milk out.

What would be your concern about spraying the buds? I drenched two plants and had no problems at all, once I stopped worrying about the coating I knew would wash off. From the moment I found the pm and got the plants sprayed I doubled the fans in that area, limiting the opportunity for the pm to re-establish.
 
I had a large outdoor plant that I did not intend to budwash and The milk that I used stuck on in a layer on most of the parts I sprayed. If the buds were close to harvest (which they weren't) I would think the buds would have been covered in dried milk.

Here is a pic a few days after the spray.

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The milk coated every inch of my plants, forming the protective barrier that keeps the pm from re-establishing. If I weren't going to wash after harvest I can see how the spraying would be problematic.

May I ask why you don't budwash a plant you grew outdoors? I'd think that would necessitate a good budwash. I realize that most of my adult life I smoked weed that was unwashed, but I find that now, knowing better, the swish through a dilution of H2O2 makes me feel more secure about the medicinal nature of my buds. Personally, I'd probably pass now, preferring to wait until I got home where I had clean buds.

Not a criticism, just my shift in perspective since I began growing my own.
 
I definitely would wash my buds if I grew outdoors. I have worried about washing my tent harvests because I wasn't sure that it was worth it I since I haven't had any major bug issues so far or haven't been spraying any of them other than diluted neem oil in veg. But these two plants badazz and Platinum Scout V2 will come down in the next couple of days and get a wash. The black dog is one or two weeks away from harvest so ill probably hold off on spraying it. The Carnival has only been in flower for 3 weeks and is stunningly healthy. I think I should spray it with diluted skim milk and hope it doesn't get PM. I have another tent in that room that is 3 weeks in flower and doesn't have any signs of PM. I'm guessing I should spray those also??
 
Jgrowlove said:
I definitely would wash my buds if I grew outdoors. I have worried about washing my tent harvests because I wasn't sure that it was worth it I since I haven't had any major bug issues so far or haven't been spraying any of them other than diluted neem oil in veg. But these two plants badazz and Platinum Scout V2 will come down in the next couple of days and get a wash. The black dog is one or two weeks away from harvest so ill probably hold off on spraying it. The Carnival has only been in flower for 3 weeks and is stunningly healthy. I think I should spray it with diluted skim milk and hope it doesn't get PM. I have another tent in that room that is 3 weeks in flower and doesn't have any signs of PM. I'm guessing I should spray those also??
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Spraying neem oil up to the last two weeks is ok but try to avoid the bud sites as much as possible ..
 
Happy new years J.... sorry about the PM. Your plants look great off the charts nice.

If you live some what close to SS your in the mid Atlantic state ... PM spores are everywhere. Nothing you can do about it.

I use fans and keep the air moving and watch my RH - I only get PM, well used to get PM when humidity was above 70% after lights out for extended times.

What I've been doing, and this is a Rudolph Steiner/biodynamic farming thing so been a cure/treatment for a long time in the organic world. Get some Horsetail Fern brew a tea and let cool mix with water (1/4 cup to a gal) and spray in 1x a week when plants are in VEG (will kill mold spored in the leaves) and a few times in flower. What happens with PM/bud rot is the spores get on the leaves when the plants are young and the flowers grow around the leaves, that makes for a great warm moist area for the PM to get a good hold and grow. We need to address that early on before flowers form. The HT fern tea is good for flowers also.

It wont hurt the plant wont leave any residue and most important it works. I haven't had any PM since I started using it. Last grow I had RH up in the 80% several times with the large plants I'm growing they do a lot of transpiration so if I close the door to the grow room the RH spikes specially after lights out.

Horsetail Fern is very high in Silica and other minerals so its great for the plant as well as a great treatment for PM. Silica helps the plants immune system fight off pest and disease. You can use as much as you like, you cant hurt a plant with the HT tea.
 
bobrown14 said:
Happy new years J.... sorry about the PM. Your plants look great off the charts nice.

If you live some what close to SS your in the mid Atlantic state ... PM spores are everywhere. Nothing you can do about it.

I use fans and keep the air moving and watch my RH - I only get PM, well used to get PM when humidity was above 70% after lights out for extended times.

What I've been doing, and this is a Rudolph Steiner/biodynamic farming thing so been a cure/treatment for a long time in the organic world. Get some Horsetail Fern brew a tea and let cool mix with water (1/4 cup to a gal) and spray in 1x a week when plants are in VEG (will kill mold spored in the leaves) and a few times in flower. What happens with PM/bud rot is the spores get on the leaves when the plants are young and the flowers grow around the leaves, that makes for a great warm moist area for the PM to get a good hold and grow. We need to address that early on before flowers form. The HT fern tea is good for flowers also.

It wont hurt the plant wont leave any residue and most important it works. I haven't had any PM since I started using it. Last grow I had RH up in the 80% several times with the large plants I'm growing they do a lot of transpiration so if I close the door to the grow room the RH spikes specially after lights out.

Horsetail Fern is very high in Silica and other minerals so its great for the plant as well as a great treatment for PM. Silica helps the plants immune system fight off pest and disease. You can use as much as you like, you cant hurt a plant with the HT tea.
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You grow in organic soils J. I'd do what BB suggests. :battingeyelashes: I like the fact that it leaves no residue, and it's sooo good for the soil community, who pass that goodness on to the plant.

BB, everytime I come near you I wonder why I stopped growing in LOS. :laughtwo:
 
SweetSue said:
The milk coated every inch of my plants, forming the protective barrier that keeps the pm from re-establishing. If I weren't going to wash after harvest I can see how the spraying would be problematic.

May I ask why you don't budwash a plant you grew outdoors? I'd think that would necessitate a good budwash. I realize that most of my adult life I smoked weed that was unwashed, but I find that now, knowing better, the swish through a dilution of H2O2 makes me feel more secure about the medicinal nature of my buds. Personally, I'd probably pass now, preferring to wait until I got home where I had clean buds.

Not a criticism, just my shift in perspective since I began growing my own.
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Hi Sue,

Budwashing is alright but it is just not something that fits into harvesting outdoor weed for me. I usually spray the whole plant off with plain water a couple days before harvest and I think this works just as well as a budwash... Could you imagine washing and hanging a couple pounds of weed in your living room? :lot-o-toke:

I have budwashed indoor plants but I never used the H2O2 though, just water. I have never really smoked and been able to tell a difference between unwashed vs. washed buds but if you get up close and personal with a monocle or magnifying glass I can definitely see the why you would wash.

Nice to talk to you, Sue. I hope you are all off to a great new year.

:hippy:
 
Yeah bummer about the PM. I am a bit of a half assed student of these Living Organic OG’s like BoBrown. I spent a few months preparing for my grow. Building my soil blah blah blah. I stumbled across some horsetail fern at work in the parking lot, recognizing it from my plant identification days. It grows everywhere like a weed. I picked and dried a large paper lunchbag full. So far I put some raw dried horsetail fern in my soil topping. Made a tea or two and used as a foliar on a few occasions early in flower. So I kinda followed their instructions but not completely.

Now I cant say this has prevented Powdery Mildew for me, I am in northern Canada and its not as humid around bere, but I havent seen any issues with mold. Now its winter and my rh has been between 59 in veg. 40 in flower now. But I will say that I am going to continue using this amendment. My upcoming blue bud and nl5xKali Haze grow is getting ht foliars and be part of my ACTs. I am growing in the basement and think this is an easy preventative win.

lol I have had a year to think about what to do with harvested buds. I was sold on lemon juice and baking powder with two rinses. A lot of discussion has occurred since then. Now I think a H2O2 wash will be more effective for me.

That blue dream looks delicious too...love that stuff
 
SweetSue said:
You grow in organic soils J. I'd do what BB suggests. :battingeyelashes: I like the fact that it leaves no residue, and it's sooo good for the soil community, who pass that goodness on to the plant.

BB, everytime I come near you I wonder why I stopped growing in LOS. :laughtwo:
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You so sweet...

i don't know how to do it any other way.... I'm the laziest farmer you will ever meet. Oh wait... how to get in an invite to a meeting?? I can bring some weeds! :goof: :passitleft:

I think I just figured out what works best for me... container gardening isn't that easy, lots can go wrong. I just started soil testing a while back and got more confidence I was doing the right thing.... added 1 thing at a time until happy place, now sharing.

I think I added found EWC and Malted Barley and had a good round of vermicompost last year! Still use Coast of Main Lobster compost tho.

Stopped touching my plants every day unless with a brush and pollen or I have to! I have male plants around a lot too... makes the girls wanna get busy.

Me likey busy girls! :geek:
 
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