JBC's Super Soil - Fully Organic 4x Blue Mystic + 1x CH9 Jack FEMS

Hello Dubrollin haha always good to see people here, this is turning into a full time job on here lol. Glad to have you all here though. My brain is on overload recently on all the info being thrown round this site :loopy::loopy:
 
JBC420 said:
This may be a stupid Q but i bet some are as silly as me and would like to know.

How do I put 6 parts as a value into a 60litre mix. Is it 10%?
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Ah....I see where you're coming from.

Let's say a "part" is a coffee cup, filled flat with the top.

6 cups
5 cups
3 cups

Mix all that together and put 1.5 cups of it per bag of soil. Easy peasy.
 
Ah sweet cool beans docbud,
just need to get some some soft rock phosphate, will be getting some next weekend when I pick up my HID's. CHEEEEEERS mate!!!!!
 
Man supersoil is tricky. I think making a soil mix requires an experienced grower who knows his strain and some solid chemistry. I'd be scared to just provide all sorts of stuff and see how it pans out. I'm very inexperienced so this is in no way a "review" of either method. I just prefer giving my plants what they need when they need it.

I'd be lying if I said I'm not interested in supersoil tho :). Member cannasensei makes one hell of a mix. I don't know much about his ingredients, but with that bud, this guy is doing something very very right :laughtwo: He has a journal with everything listed. I think if I decide to give supersoil a shot, I'd start with his blend as I learn more and more.

Looking good JBC, I don't know if any of this was already posted, or if cannasensei's mix is exactly like this one? If that's the case then it's on me, I didn't pay enough attention to every single post.

Cheers brotha :grinjoint:
 
Hey ismokes, welcome abourd mate, more the merrier, love the input here :)

No not checked out cannasensi's mix yet, didn't know he had one, there are loads of mixes out there and to be honest its not all that complicated yet, i'm just scratching the surface. So if you want to learn super soil from the beginning , one of these journals might be the place.
Mine is a first run with this mix and up to now seems to be doing great, I havent had 1 problem in all six plants yet. Fingers crossed after saying that.

I am no pro and just like to learn plant/soil knowledge off this site and all you guys. Got many years behind me but only 3 proper ones as i'd see it.
So any input you have is very much appreciated here and i'l try to do the same, I dont comment if I havent had it myself. Messed up a few times and thats where I have leant most, whereas some just grow and find it easy. I like to experiment and play as I love all sorts of gardening.

Great to have you here mate, time to find cannasensi journal now, only linked to every journal out there!!! This is getting really long to respond to everyone haha, brain strain! I cant stop though, I love the 420 TEAM
 
Thank you for the warm welcome! I'm new to growing too :blushsmile:, I am curious about a few things tho. This is not criticism or anything, just pure honest curiosity. I always wonder, why supersoil? what's the reason behind choosing supersoil over soilless medium + proper nutrients?

Cannasensei provided videos explaining all his mix on his journal. Now I don't know anything about the ingredients, but I know what dank is, and his bud is among the dankiest I've ever seen. If he grows them dongs in that soil, then yes, by all means, I'm very interested in supersoil.

His reasoning: (mind you he's an experienced grower) Offer the plant a buffet of goodness and it will take whatever it needs, whenever it needs it.

My reasoning: (complete noob) Plants need different ratios at different times, and if plants really take what they need and leave the rest behind, then why do we get nute burn?


That's what led me to the conclusion to leave supersoil for the experienced, or simply copy proven winners (mixes). I'd reckon dealing with under/over fertilizing would be incredibly easier in a soil-less medium that's hand fed twice a week or whatever..

I don't know, just a noob reflecting some thoughts. One example I'd think of, I wouldn't want much N in my soil later in flowering. I don't trust myself providing just that amount of N that will start rapidly decreasing halfway through flowering. This is just a Nitrogen example. The list goes on and on about amendments affecting pH, or even affecting other amendments by locking out nutes.. there's tons of stuff to consider really.

This post might be mostly BS because I know nothing about the base soil used or any of the amendments added.
 
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Got a grown man blushing in this bitch ismokes. Lol thanks for the kind words brother
 
Thank you for the warm welcome! I'm new to growing too , I am curious about a few things tho. This is not criticism or anything, just pure honest curiosity. I always wonder, why supersoil? what's the reason behind choosing supersoil over soilless medium + proper nutrients?
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Thats a really good question!
This is just my way and i'm not saying its the best or fastest way. The first reason I would use a supersoil mix is to keep my cannabis organic. Its like all the products in the shops or cannabis sold by dealers, they are grown with chemical nutrients to make the food/bud look big but not to nourish or bodys or heal them. Our body are very deficient in things like Mag these days as chemical nutes, pesticides , insecticides and fungasides kill all this organic life at big doses leaving the land or plant dependent on them from there on in.

I like it to be as natural as possible , my food and my cannabis.

When it comes to different ratios of say too much N during flower, yes this is a concern I also think but organic nutrients dont break down like chemical nutrients which are fed direct and are taken up by the plant right there and then and after its taken and used its nutrients it needs another fix FAST or it will crash, just like a human on a RED B*ll diet , he go really fast but he will have to keep drinking these energy drinks to keep that energy up. But a person on a well balanced diet who wakes up and eats wheat for breakfast and pasta for Lunch will have energy all day and be a good form of energy. A lasting energy.

Like cannasensei says they take organics as and when they need it. Its very hard to over fert in organics and no need to pH as the mediums organics will keep it in range.

If I could of just copied someones mix then I MAY of done, but my country doesnt sell the mixes the US has come up with so I'm making my own. Plus I love all this soil science and am really intrigued by keeping it natural, the way its been for millions of years.

But like I said before I'm not saying its best for speed or size, I'm saying I like it organic and natural and the mixes are really easy to handle, I just water. They growing really fast now in full veg.

Just experimenting mate :) Ask any questions you like mate.

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Got a grown man blushing in this bitch ismokes. Lol thanks for the kind words brother
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Hey Cannasensei, nice to meet you man, good to have anither organic head on board. I'l get up to speed on yours soon as poss mate :)
 
Hey JBC, some pics, iam doing a little experiment with the Blues, only veged about 4 weeks from seed, about 5 weeks to harvest now, just introduced a feeding of molasses so we'll see what happens, been using MG ferts blooming, must say ill be going with somthing else.
Bio Diesel auto is about 4 weeks to havest, buds looking goood, ill be doing an all auto grow next time around 8 plants.
All plants will be in 4 gallon pots.....:peace:

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Thanks man. I'm definetly leaning toward organic head lol. My personal and Med stash is always organic (loved ur answer on WHY super soil) but believe daddy has a cabinet chalk full of chem fert and pesticides cause u never know lol. (I like having chelated layin around. Stop deficiency in its tracks) ill get caught up as well. Only read the last two pages so far. :)
 
Looking good hamster. Alotta yellow pretty early on IMO but it looks tasty
 
cannasensei said:
Looking good hamster. Alotta yellow pretty early on IMO but it looks tasty
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I know, its not a watering issue, im thinking maybe a mag diff. im looking into it....
 
Hey mate, wanna give ur tea a go (very similar to mine) the portions u list is that per gallon? Always interested in new brews
 
Looks like a macro deficiency. What're ya feeding her?

Looks like its moving tips in. Is it moving bottom up or top down?
 
cannasensei said:
Looks like a macro deficiency. What're ya feeding her?

Looks like its moving tips in. Is it moving bottom up or top down?
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Seems to vary per plant , the Kush looks perfect all plants get the same care, im thinking iron def, whats macro?
1/4 strength mg bloom, 1TBSP molasses in promix soil....................
 
Hamster said:
Seems to vary per plant , the Kush looks perfect all plants get the same care, im thinking iron def, whats macro?
1/4 strength mg bloom, 1TBSP molasses in promix soil....................
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It's not a deficiency, it has to do with the ability of the soil to release cations. If you add Mg, you'll make it worse, because you'll interfere with nitrogen uptake.

The molasses is probably making it worse, because you're feeding your soil life off the dollar menu at MickyD's (sugar.) Not only that, but molasses is high in potassium, which inhibits magnesium. Classic vicious cycle.

Here's the fix:

1.oz of calcium nitrate per 5 gallons of water, plus 5 oz of humic acid.

That will dislodge the cations in the soil and get the plants back on track.

Your starting soil was probably too high in sodium (detrimental cation) and potassium (inhibits magnesium uptake)

This sort of thing happens frequently in home-built supersoils, because they aren't constructed scientifically, but usually according to traditions.
 
This is what I mean. DocBud is only listing a fraction of the possible interactions in a super-soil mix (great input Doc). I'm afraid I don't trust myself with a mix just yet. :laughtwo:

DocBud said:
It's not a deficiency, it has to do with the ability of the soil to release cations. If you add Mg, you'll make it worse, because you'll interfere with nitrogen uptake.

The molasses is probably making it worse, because you're feeding your soil life off the dollar menu at MickyD's (sugar.) Not only that, but molasses is high in potassium, which inhibits magnesium. Classic vicious cycle.

Here's the fix:

1.oz of calcium nitrate per 5 gallons of water, plus 5 oz of humic acid.

That will dislodge the cations in the soil and get the plants back on track.

Your starting soil was probably too high in sodium (detrimental cation) and potassium (inhibits magnesium uptake)

This sort of thing happens frequently in home-built supersoils, because they aren't constructed scientifically, but usually according to traditions.
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