ItsNatural's 1st Grow - Mars LED 192x5 Reflector - Mars 3x3x6 Tent

[AllSmiles]

I can't comment at all on the feeding schedule you have there. Just not familiar with that line up.

As far as using grow this late. When do you stop giving Grow?

Most of the time I don't use Grow nutrients at all. I've been using FFOF for a few runs now and find it to be a very hot soil. I normally do 2 transplants. Start off in a solo cup, then 1 gallon, then final pot. I've found that I go around 3 weeks before having to transplant and the FFOF soil is plenty to keep them happy til next transplant. I haven't run into a strain yet where the soil hasn't provided enough for the first few weeks. I always watch carefully for any signs of deficiency though as each strain can be different. I normally plan to flip to flower schedule about 2 weeks after transplanting to final pot. Then I just start using cal/mag and bloom nutrients and bloom booster. I personally only give grow when going longer then 3 weeks in the same pot with FFOF. I bought a General Organics Box that came with sample nutrients and the small Grow bottle is only half gone after almost 2 years now where as I've gone thru a couple bottles of the Bloom. I amend FFOF with a little bit of azomite, dolomite lime, alaskan humus (Ancient Forest), and about 30% perlite.

Hope that helped some. Good luck on the final stretch.

 

[ItsNatural]

WOW caught up and glad to see everything is going at a steady pace. From what i see it looks like N/cal deficiency in the beginning it looked like a P deficiency. I just think you have a high feeding plant on your hands, which is difficult to deal with since you have several strains on your hands. However with the care I see you put into these plants I believe you should be able to remedy it with an increase in the HI-Brix you've been giving it with the cal/mag. I would warn against too much cal/mag since every bottle comes with extra N, They don't use much N when flowering however if you give it any it will gobble it up and you may get a weird looking plant.

This is just my opinion, but just give the LS more bloom the nugs itself have the ability to photosynthesis when the leaves are lost. as long as you keep the buds happy (no burn) you should have good results

Thank you for the info. I have noticed the calmag has N in it. Im not sure about other brands but Earth Juice has 3.00 that seems like alot, but Im guessing there is some reason for it. But I have been trying to take that into account.
I am definitely going to up the bloom. The buds so far look fine. They are frosty, stinky, and sticky. But I was thinking that the buds are the last to go. and its just a matter of time. Do you think the buds will still swell without all the leafs? Thanks for jumping in and I hope you stick around. It takes a village.

I can't comment at all on the feeding schedule you have there. Just not familiar with that line up.

Most of the time I don't use Grow nutrients at all. I've been using FFOF for a few runs now and find it to be a very hot soil. I normally do 2 transplants. Start off in a solo cup, then 1 gallon, then final pot. I've found that I go around 3 weeks before having to transplant and the FFOF soil is plenty to keep them happy til next transplant. I haven't run into a strain yet where the soil hasn't provided enough for the first few weeks. I always watch carefully for any signs of deficiency though as each strain can be different. I normally plan to flip to flower schedule about 2 weeks after transplanting to final pot. Then I just start using cal/mag and bloom nutrients and bloom booster. I personally only give grow when going longer then 3 weeks in the same pot with FFOF. I bought a General Organics Box that came with sample nutrients and the small Grow bottle is only half gone after almost 2 years now where as I've gone thru a couple bottles of the Bloom. I amend FFOF with a little bit of azomite, dolomite lime, alaskan humus (Ancient Forest), and about 30% perlite.

Hope that helped some. Good luck on the final stretch.

That is really interesting. No grow at all hardly. But I can understand the workings of it. Iv heard people say it will take them all the way thru veg. But people seem to have different understandings of what the veg stage is. So I can never tell how long they are talking about. From the time it breaks ground/2 week seedling stage, then veg. Going by the first, I vegged for 6 weeks. Iv thought about going from a starter cup/1Gal/Final pot, but am still new and dont want to rock the boat adding another transplant in. I may try that tho next grow. Its very interesting to see the many different techs. people have. I thank you for helping. And look forward to following your grow.

 

[ItsNatural]

UPDATE.....UPDATE......UPDATE
76 Days From Seed.....33 Days In Flower
Current Temp 73F
Current RH 53

I mixed my nutes yesterday. And I am following you guys advice and have cut the Grow out. My mix went as follows.
First, because I watered friday, I am only give a little less than a gallon a piece. So the mix is for about 3/4 gal.

1tsp CALMAG
2tsp CATALYST
4tsp BLOOM
1tsp BIG BLOOMIN GUANO
1/2tsp MICROBLAST
1/4tsp META-K

I am going to wait until tonight before lights out to feed them. That will give the EJ about 36 hours to bubble.


IN OTHER NEWS
I recently got a small grow tent. Its a 2x2x3h. I figure I would start my next crop in the small tent while the others finish. It would save me a couple of weeks between harvest. I was going to get an LED but was worried that due to the height, It would be pushing it. I know my light was folding the leafs up at 32 inches. I thought about getting an older mars that has the 3w chip but I decided to go with some cfls instead. I am going to start my girls off with these,
Triangle Bulbs 12-Pack 23-Watt (1W) Spiral Medium Base Natural Daylight (5K) CFL Light Bulbs - - Amazon

If any of you pros out there see a noob mistake I have made picking out these lights please say so.
Anyway, so the plan is to start my girls in the little tent until my current is done, then I will move them into my bigger tent. I also thought about at that time, starting 1 more and flipping it to 12 12 when I flip the big tent. Just a little experiment plant. Idk but I am definitely going to start my next crop in there. I just hope there isnt any kind of shock going from cfl to led.

edit post
I almost forgot the bud shots.

 

[db003]

great job that scrog is looking awesome as hell and its cool you got a new small tent I plan on using my walk-in closet as a new grow space if things go well

 

[spacef]

very nice

 

[jaymu86]

UPDATE.....UPDATE......UPDATE
76 Days From Seed.....33 Days In Flower
Current Temp 73F
Current RH 53

I mixed my nutes yesterday. And I am following you guys advice and have cut the Grow out. My mix went as follows.
First, because I watered friday, I am only give a little less than a gallon a piece. So the mix is for about 3/4 gal.

1tsp CALMAG
2tsp CATALYST
4tsp BLOOM
1tsp BIG BLOOMIN GUANO
1/2tsp MICROBLAST
1/4tsp META-K

I am going to wait until tonight before lights out to feed them. That will give the EJ about 36 hours to bubble.


IN OTHER NEWS
I recently got a small grow tent. Its a 2x2x3h. I figure I would start my next crop in the small tent while the others finish. It would save me a couple of weeks between harvest. I was going to get an LED but was worried that due to the height, It would be pushing it. I know my light was folding the leafs up at 32 inches. I thought about getting an older mars that has the 3w chip but I decided to go with some cfls instead. I am going to start my girls off with these,
Triangle Bulbs 12-Pack 23-Watt (1W) Spiral Medium Base Natural Daylight (5K) CFL Light Bulbs - - Amazon
If any of you pros out there see a noob mistake I have made picking out these lights please say so.
Anyway, so the plan is to start my girls in the little tent until my current is done, then I will move them into my bigger tent. I also thought about at that time, starting 1 more and flipping it to 12 12 when I flip the big tent. Just a little experiment plant. Idk but I am definitely going to start my next crop in there. I just hope there isnt any kind of shock going from cfl to led.

edit post
I almost forgot the bud shots.

Looking good just try n get 6500k but 5k works

great job that scrog is looking awesome as hell and its cool you got a new small tent I plan on using my walk-in closet as a new grow space if things go well

 

[ItsNatural]

Looking good just try n get 6500k but 5k works

I was wanting to get 6500k, but they were so much higher. And for the most part it will only be for the first few weeks of the girls lives. I figure on moving them to the led when its time to transplant from the cups to their final containers. I had thought about growing a small one after I move those but I wont really be using those anyway. Ill be getting some 2400k.

 

[ItsNatural]

ok so now im seeing signs on my money makers. Damn it!!

 

[jaymu86]

ok so now im seeing signs on my money makers. Damn it!!

Do the tips looked brown or yellow I think they are just sum hungry mofo

 

[Stinky Snid]

This late in the game, some deficiencies are going to be too detrimental. They look really good otherwise, How much longer are you thinking until harvest? Have you started flushing yet?

 

[ItsNatural]

This late in the game, some deficiencies are going to be too detrimental. They look really good otherwise, How much longer are you thinking until harvest? Have you started flushing yet?

Im thinking they prolly got about 3 weeks left. That would put them at 8 week flower. I was going to get a usb microscope so I could see exact, but I have already spent ALOT on this set up, so I may wait till next harvest. As far as flushing, I will start cutting down after this feeding today. Then it will be only bloom nutes with some microblast next week, Then straight water week after that.

 

[ItsNatural]

UPDATE:
79 Days From Seed.....36 Days In Flower

Made my nutes yesterday. Fed them today. All got about 3/4 gallon a piece. Very little runoff.

2tsp CATALYST
1tsp MICROBLAST
4tsp BLOOM
1tsp BIG BLOOMIN GUANO
1tsp CALMAG
1/4tsp META-K
1tspHI-BRIX

I lowered my light again. It is now about 22". I will see tomorrow if that is too low. Hopefully if it is, it wont hurt them too much and the leafs will taco again to tell me.

Other than that, just trying to keep good airflow in the tent. I dont want any mold or anything. I turn the exhaust fan all the way up after I feed. I try to move the little fan inside the tent around so its blowing on different parts of the plants. As soon as my stuff comes in I will set up my other tent and start my next round. I think I am going to go with 2 Lemon Skunks and 2 Bubbas gift if I can find them lol. Here are some pictures as of today.

Unfortunately I have alot of this in the middle of my money makers. Im sure due to being to thick, but maybe my light was too high. Its a shame but is what it is. I guess Ill make some oil or wax with them. Maybe some eatables.

Ok well thats it for me I guess. Any questions or suggestions let them rip.

 

[jaymu86]

UPDATE:
79 Days From Seed.....36 Days In Flower

Made my nutes yesterday. Fed them today. All got about 3/4 gallon a piece. Very little runoff.

2tsp CATALYST
1tsp MICROBLAST
4tsp BLOOM
1tsp BIG BLOOMIN GUANO
1tsp CALMAG
1/4tsp META-K
1tspHI-BRIX

I lowered my light again. It is now about 22". I will see tomorrow if that is too low. Hopefully if it is, it wont hurt them too much and the leafs will taco again to tell me.

Other than that, just trying to keep good airflow in the tent. I dont want any mold or anything. I turn the exhaust fan all the way up after I feed. I try to move the little fan inside the tent around so its blowing on different parts of the plants. As soon as my stuff comes in I will set up my other tent and start my next round. I think I am going to go with 2 Lemon Skunks and 2 Bubbas gift if I can find them lol. Here are some pictures as of today.

Unfortunately I have alot of this in the middle of my money makers. Im sure due to being to thick, but maybe my light was too high. Its a shame but is what it is. I guess Ill make some oil or wax with them. Maybe some eatables.

Ok well thats it for me I guess. Any questions or suggestions let them rip.

Looks good man nice n cool n them buds can get fat on bottom just might have to take tops first n let bottom half go another week

 

[ItsNatural]

UPDATE:
81 Days From Seed.....38 Days In Flower

Gave them straight water That has been bubbling for a day and a half. About 3/4 Gallon a piece. No runoff. Im pretty sure my lights and stuff are in for my little tent so I can start my next crop. I will hopefully go get it tomorrow. And will prolly start germinating Tomorrow or Sunday.
Took some pictures while I was out there giving them their water.

 

[db003]

I got to say that's one good looking scrog you are doing a

glad to hear you are starting a new grow do you know what strains you are going to start and what style of growing will it be another scrog

 

[ItsNatural]

Thank you very much dboo3.
I will have to look and see what I got. But Im thinking of doing 2 Lemon Skunks and 2 Bubbas Gift. Or 4 Lemon skunks lol. I will make another seed order in a few months but I still have a handful of both lemon skunk and MM. And I dont see a scenario where I order more beans and not getting my head chewed off by the boss lady for over spending. I was told the other day That I have a big O money pit out in my building. I like to look at it as more of a hobby. And hobbies are all about spending money. Trains, stamps, what ever the case. It involves spending loads of money that you really didnt need to. But I want to. I dont "need" a usb microscope, But I want one. I dont "need" alot of the stuff I have. But I like having them. And I still want more. I look around on amazon all the time just putting shit in my wish list. Because what ever the hobby, you can alway make it better. LOL "db003 has one, and he looks like hes having all kinds of fun with it. Ima get me one too." We have all been there.
ANYWAY.. my long winded point is I am going to have to grow what I already have for now. I have a couple of autos but I want to get a couple grows in first before I go there. I have some freebies somewhere in this place i just need to find them. But I will prolly still do the Lemon Skunk for sure. I like how it took to the Scrog more than I do the Money Makers. Plus the Money Makers are couch lock and I just need that at night time.

 

[ca4life]

Hi Natural, you are doing so well for your first grow! I would like to know what are the training techniques that you used on your plants.
Did you top your plants? If yes, after how many nodes? Or did you just use low stress training into a scrog with defoliation?

 

[earejay]

Great job so far brother. Just caught up and you've sold me on the scrog. I've just germinated my beans and getting my feet wet. Thanks for sharing your journey.!!


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[ItsNatural]

Hi Natural, you are doing so well for your first grow! I would like to know what are the training techniques that you used on your plants.
Did you top your plants? If yes, after how many nodes? Or did you just use low stress training into a scrog with defoliation?

Thank you ca4life. I topped when they were at 5-6 nodes high and I believe I topped down to the 3rd or 4th node. Started LST right after. But I would suggest the 4 way lst tech. Top to 3rd node, allow the 2 branches that come from that to grow then pin down what should be 4 main branches. Then I put screen over. Screen should only be a few inches above the plant to keep it growing out wide and not up. After that its just a matter of tucking the branches everyday, until the stretch is over. I detailed this journal pretty good if you need a more detailed explanation. There are also some REALLY good tutorials out there. I would give ya some links but Im not sure about the rules on that. Just google it tho. Some very detailed info out there.

Great job so far brother. Just caught up and you've sold me on the scrog. I've just germinated my beans and getting my feet wet. Thanks for sharing your journey.!!


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Thank you friend. Scrog is a good easy way to get a good even canopy, and also helps support those big fat buds. I feel like Mine could have definitely gone better. But it for sure could have went worse. And honestly, The scrog gives you a reason to go play with your babies for a few hours everyday. Now that the stretch is over. Other than feeding them. Theres not much to do other to make sure the temps are good and air flow. So now i just stare at them for 30 40 mins Look all in them, around them, Sit down and just.....stare. LOL

 

[arteekay]

Managed to get in before harvest, but I'm sorry to have missed the show so far.