Invisible Disabilities

[Matanuska Valley]

Herb Fellow, I am not fighting with any 1 over this, but its wrong to get the man to move away from the front of the Restaurant and I don't give a fuck what any 1 say about it...
Herb Fellow no disrespect intended sorry if it came out like that...

 

[ycuzican]

They just need little smoking areas with a bench seat and a covering like outback and longhorn do it.. see, easy.[/QUOTE]

That's true,boss. I frequent a couple of bars that have indoor, or outdoor smoking areas. The indoor ones are nasty and smelly, even as a tobacco smoker, I don't like a small room full of stale smoke, and you can't smoke pot in there. But the outdoor ones are awesome, you can smoke anything, and noone is offended. Its our own little 420 heaven.

 

[evanescence]

That makes sense of course. Maybe I should be more careful.

 

[Kalas]

Why do people bring kids in to this story thats fucking bullshit, it says nothing about kids...
It's about 1 man standing outside a restaurant and some redneck fucker gets annoy about a man smoking cannabis outside...
Leave the kids out of this 1 Please...!

I got kids coming in for lunch, and he was at the front door smoking a joint. I got a dad complaining his kid had to walk through marijuana smoke."

Steve Gibson is a complete jerk-off. Screw anyone that so passionately defends him. Legally smoking marijuana is a privilege, not a right, and should be treated with the respect it deserves.

 

[evanescence]

"Steve Gibson is a complete jerk-off." I'd agree that he's an idiot.

"Screw anyone that so passionately defends him. Legally smoking marijuana is a privilege, not a right, and should be treated with the respect it deserves."

A privilege? The government is enforcing illogical and impractical laws which exist only to ensure larger profits for drug companies. I do not believe that smoking is a privilege, but it is a right, because it is not the business of the government or the drug companies what people decide to put in their bodies. In fact, I would legalize most, if not all, street drugs for the same reason. What are pain killers but legal narcotics? If it were impossible for people to make Heroin apart from buying from Eli Lilly or some other drug company, Heroin would be as legal as Tylenol. As far as Meth is concerned, I consider that Darwin's drug. Anyone stupid enough to smoke, snort, shoot up, or ingest paint thinner, gasoline, and drain cleaner mixed with amphetamines is a complete retard. Maybe that's just natural selection!
I believe that the government is far to big and has far too much power. To say that it's a privilege to smoke weed, medically prescribed or otherwise, is giving the government way too much power over our personal lives. To me, that sounds like a nanny state.

 

[Ms. RedEye]

We are trying to impose cigarette-smoking etiquette to medical cannabis users. As cigarette smokers, many of us cede to the wishes of the non-smokers. If we are around a group of people who don't smoke, we wait to light up. If someone kindly asks us to extinguish our cigarette because they have ashtma, we do it. It's just the polite thing to do.

For medicinal users however, cannabis is their medicine. It's not just something they like to use--they HAVE to use it. We wouldn't think twice about allowing a diabetic to shoot insulin anytime they needed it. Cannabis should be no different. If we are trying to make the arguement that cannabis IS medicine, then we have to treat it as such. That means people will take their medicine when they need it--not when it is socially acceptable to take it.

Peace

 

[Boss]

You have a valid point, but my grandma doesn't bend over at the bar and stick a supposatory in her ass whlie everyone eats beer nuts either.

Oh, sorry..lol I just made myself laugh so hard :-0

 

[Kalas]

I believe I said legally smoking marijuana is a privilege.

"A privilege—etymologically "private law" or law relating to a specific individual—is a special entitlement or immunity granted by a government or other authority to a restricted group, either by birth or on a conditional basis. A privilege can be revoked in some cases. In modern democracies, a privilege is conditional and granted only after birth. By contrast, a right is an inherent, irrevocable entitlement held by all citizens or all human beings from birth." - Wikipedia

 

[Johnny]

You have a valid point, but my grandma doesn't bend over at the bar and stick a supposatory in her ass whlie everyone eats beer nuts either.

Oh, sorry..lol I just made myself laugh so hard :-0

My stomach hurts from laughing so hard after I read that.

I don't really know which way to go on this one, but I'll be interested to see how the case turns out.

-jps

 

[Kalas]

Just like this guy believes it's his "right" to blow smoke around an entrance that kids might and do end up passing through, it's any father's "right" to knock him the f out.

This place is a bar, right? He got his ass over there somehow, right? I'm willing to bet he doesn't live next door... he could make the same effort to get a little further away from the entrance when lighting up. Common courtesy.

 

[Boss]

Next time I go to the bar with my mom, I'm gonna tell her to change her colostomy bag at the table :-0 hehe

bad boss.. bad!

 

[evanescence]

Great point. Either MJ should be treated as medicine, which is the claim of most Cannibus supporters, or it should be treated like any other public annoyance or illegal substance. However, I do argee that perhaps an area where people can smoke Cannibus in public would be a great idea. People with asthma may also find the Cannibus smoke to be harmful to them just like cigarette smoke. Personally, I find the smell of cigarettes dreadful. I use to smoke several years ago, but once I quit, the smell is revolting.

We are trying to impose cigarette-smoking etiquette to medical cannabis users. As cigarette smokers, many of us cede to the wishes of the non-smokers. If we are around a group of people who don't smoke, we wait to light up. If someone kindly asks us to extinguish our cigarette because they have ashtma, we do it. It's just the polite thing to do.

For medicinal users however, cannabis is their medicine. It's not just something they like to use--they HAVE to use it. We wouldn't think twice about allowing a diabetic to shoot insulin anytime they needed it. Cannabis should be no different. If we are trying to make the arguement that cannabis IS medicine, then we have to treat it as such. That means people will take their medicine when they need it--not when it is socially acceptable to take it.

Peace

 

[evanescence]

You have a valid point, but my grandma doesn't bend over at the bar and stick a supposatory in her ass whlie everyone eats beer nuts either.

Oh, sorry..lol I just made myself laugh so hard :-0

LOL! That's hilarious! I don't think I'd ever think of that sort of example!

On another topic:

Here's the definition that I found to the word privilege:

priv·i·lege [prívvəlij, prívvlij]
n (plural priv·i·leg·es)
1. restricted right or benefit: an advantage, right, or benefit that is not available to everyone
2. rights and advantages enjoyed by elite: the rights and advantages enjoyed by a relatively small group of people, usually as a result of wealth or social status
a system founded on privilege

3. special honor: a special treat or honor
It was a privilege to work with you.

4. confidentiality of communication: the special right to confidentiality of communication between two parties, such as a lawyer and client or doctor and patient
5. lawmaker's right to special treatment: the right to, or granting of, special treatment or benefits to members of a lawmaking body, for example, freedom from prosecution
6. stock option: an option to buy or sell stocks over a period of time


vt (past priv·i·leged, past participle priv·i·leged, present participle priv·i·leg·ing, 3rd person present singular priv·i·leg·es)
1. give somebody or something special rights: to grant special rights or benefits to somebody or something
2. grant somebody or something exemption: to exempt or release somebody or something from something


[12th century. Via Old French from Latin privilegium "private law," from privus (see privation) + the stem leg- "law."]
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

I don't see how the definition of privilege proves any point; but I will say that I believe it is my right to smoke MJ. I will agree, however, that showing common courteousy to other is important and I wouldn't light up in a place with kids or in a crowd of people. To me, that's common sense.

 

[ycuzican]

Great point. Either MJ should be treated as medicine, which is the claim of most Cannibus supporters, or it should be treated like any other public annoyance or illegal substance. However, I do argee that perhaps an area where people can smoke Cannibus in public would be a great idea. People with asthma may also find the Cannibus smoke to be harmful to them just like cigarette smoke. Personally, I find the smell of cigarettes dreadful. I use to smoke several years ago, but once I quit, the smell is revolting.

This is a good point, Cannabis can be treated as many different things. it is a medicine, it is a recreational drug, it is a social drug, it is a spiritual and mind expanding experience. Unfortunately, the smoke bothers some people (I don't know why, it smells so good.) So, what are we gonna do? maybe eat more
cannacookies, either way, it needs to be legal.

 

[Boss]

Cannabis Clubs and Cafe's, parties at my house with no worries of arrest.... That would be great I don't need to have PUBLIC access, just courteous access.

 

[evanescence]

Cannabis Clubs and Cafe's, parties at my house with no worries of arrest.... That would be great I don't need to have PUBLIC access, just courteous access.

Great point. Just to be able to smoke in peace would be enough for me. But the smoke does smell good to me, much better than cigarettes!

 

[Johnny]

I can smoke without any trouble or worry at my house, just not with a bunch of people. When there are 4 or more of us hanging out and smoking, we're usually at my friends' house, and they live in a very rural, low heat area, so its not a worry there. The only time I ever smoke in a public setting is during the 4/20 rally and march around here. But I'd love to be able to sit on my porch during a storm or on a nice night and enjoy a puff without one of my neighbours calling the police. And I'd love to see cannabis cafes and clubs in the Niagara Falls area. The only thing that worries me about legalization is that the government is going to tax it as badly as they do with cigarettes. That would be horrible. I hope I have at least a chest freezer full by that time just in case.

-jps

 

[Ms. RedEye]

The thing about legalization that bothers me the most is the government interference that will come with it. I would prefer to see the cannabis community define the standards. The thought of the government telling me where and when I can take my medicine makes me sick. But when they're done taxing the shit out of it, I suspect they'll appreciate my increased useage....

Peace

 

[ycuzican]

When legalization occurs, I think taxation is inevitable, but I wonder if we'll be able to grow it, without being taxed? It's legal to grow tobacco or make beer and wine, as long as you don't sell it without paying taxes. I think that would be a good way to control the cannabis, as well. and, a commercial grower would pay taxes, and everyone would make money.

But, the government might not see it that way, for some reason it's still illegal to make your own whiskey.

 

[Boss]

Because they cannot collect taxes on moonshine, and they spend 500 million a year fighting it