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[Dutchman1990]

Do you give them white towels for modesty? Oh, and how warm does the mat get? Mine just says something about 10-20º above room temps, which can be damn hot. I wonder if I can put it on a regular light dimmer...

You can get a thermostat controller to set it perfectly. They sell on amazon!

 

[InTheShed]

You can get a thermostat controller to set it perfectly. They sell on amazon!

Thanks Dutch!

 

[Dutchman1990]

Nooo problemo !

 

[Dutchman1990]

Here actually I had it in my future purchases favourited lol!

 

[bobrown14]

You want to grow your root mass during veg, and the plant mass during flower so all energy is directed to that task. Again, not black and white, not 6 of one and half dozen of the other.

Plants grow roots and biomass BEFORE setting flowers. The hint is we call it VEG-itative stage where the plants growing bigger and more biomass.. then it transitions into reproductive stage where the plants grow flowers and seeds and stop growing biomass.

Biomass = roots and shoots!



source:
The control of developmental phase transitions in plants

Good article ^^^

Good stuff.

Back to stressing the roots of an auto....I know roots can grow through the mesh around a peat pellet, but do you think it slows them down at all? I

My experience says yes.. I peel off the mesh as soon as I see roots coming out. Lately I've been removing the btm of the mesh after re-hydration and before putting seedling in pellet. I for sure remove the mesh at transplant into soil.

Ever pull the mesh off and the roots popping thru break off and stay with the mesh. That cant be good for the seedling.


The question about roots and size and also time of flowering is still being studied.
There's a genetic part and a light spectrum part that has influence.

Example is plants that grow in shade grow different (spindly longer inter-nodal spacing) than the same plant that has full sun. Thats a basic example, we all know they grow different. We just don't quite understand WHY.

I AM GUESSING but I think it will be the same with roots. Plants that have limited root spacing will grow (and mature) differently than plants that have more root spacing. How differently, that's the big question.

My experience is that AUTO plants have smallish root balls in relation to my PHOTO period plants. It's not subtle difference either. Why; could be the AUTO plant matures faster and therefor stops root growth and begins focus on its reproductive stage sooner. Not ALL AUTOs but many of them.

This is a very complex question.

Look up "heteroblasty " fun stuff...


Color of light MIGHT play an important role in the vegetative stage of AUTO plants even more so that PHOTO periods plants in the vegetative stage.

I'll bet dollars to dognuts paper towels are one of the biggest killer of seeds going. The residues from processing and production are what does it.

I agree.. they even add fungicides and anti-bacterial chems and of course they die the paper white.

The paper towel thing is old school from the 60s. It's how children were taught to sprout bean seeds in kindy-garden. Maybe we were supposed to learn a proper way later on in school but they discontinued botany as an elective in HS. I dunno.

Farmers dont use paper towels to sprout seeds! Food for thought I'm thinking.

Hey farmer, whats with your field covered in paper towels?
Farmer: oh yeah, I'm sprouting corn seeds so we can turn corn into gasoline! Don't worry the paper towels are 100% recycled material.

 

[RETRIX]

It's so cool when someone with a sense of humor sees an opportunity and grabs it! It's an image you will always have in your head. I wonder if someone saved that sign!

Oh thanks Joe! I still wonder if it's been proven that flushing magnesium from the buds is possible.

Thanks, you too Dutch!



@TheMadDabber still hasn't told me if he wants me to cut the stems shorter in the cloninator. Some of them don't reach the bottoms of the netpot though...

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Welcome to the working week (except those in retail)! Let us begin with some photographs of the Treacle family...

Blue Treacle 1 (formerly aka "Freacle") on day 37. I'm hoping for some stretch as it's only about 12" tall!:

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• InTheShed
• Oct 15, 2018

Blue Treacle 1 day 37

And BT2 on day 11. Still getting distilled water because it looks fine and the cotyledons are still green. Next time I water the AK and Sour G clones though I will dilute some and give this one a taste of nutes:

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• Oct 15, 2018

Blue Treacle 2 day 11

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• Oct 15, 2018

Blue Treacle 2 day 11

I'm probably going to train this one but I'm going to wait until it's taller before I flatten it. I think the ones I started short stayed too close to the soil, preventing air circulation and making it hard to neem the lower branches.

While we're looking at the young ones, here is Peyote Critical on day 7:

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• Oct 15, 2018

Peyote Critical day 7

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• Oct 15, 2018

Peyote Critical day 7

And because who doesn't love an inverse sand castle, here is the up-pot of the lavender that rooted after two months in the cloninator:

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• Oct 15, 2018

Lavender transplant - reverse sand castle

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• Oct 15, 2018

Lavender transplant

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• Oct 15, 2018

Lavender transplant

Per bobrown, I did not score the roots! After it fills this pot with roots it goes in the ground.

That's what I've got today. I hope everyone had a great weekend and is easing back into work gently.

Looking damn good as usual Shed.

 

[InTheShed]

Looking damn good as usual Shed.

Aww thanks RETRIX!

 

[RETRIX]

Good to see the priorities are in order!

Yes. Animals are delicious. Coconuts not so much.

 

[SamSmith]

Here actually I had it in my future purchases favourited lol!

^^ that is exactly what I have. The thermostat has a probe that goes inside your dome. Works perfectly. As i said before in am almost 100% since getting that mat.

 

[bobrown14]

Great point Shed! I’ll try it the next time I usepeat pellets! Think I may try rapid rooters this time!

Rapid rooters have fungus gnats ... that and they do not compost meaning after 10 months in my compost bin, they are the only items that come out exactly like they went in. After I saw that (and the fungus gnats) my bag or rooters went in the garbage. Initially I thought they were made of peat. Sadly they are not.

 

[Amy Gardner]

Rapid rooters have fungus gnats ... that and they do not compost meaning after 10 months in my compost bin, they are the only items that come out exactly like they went in. After I saw that (and the fungus gnats) my bag or rooters went in the garbage. Initially I thought they were made of peat. Sadly they are not.

Well that’s done it for me! I wonder what they are made of then. Not breaking down in the compost is a bad sign. Helps to reduce one more option though. I’ll no longer contemplate them. (Which I have when thinking about future cloning possibilities - my seed germination is fine ).

On the heatmat... I just use 1hr on 3hrs off for germination and it works fine.

Hope your day is a good one Shed!

 

[Preston9mm]

Rapid rooters have fungus gnats ... that and they do not compost meaning after 10 months in my compost bin, they are the only items that come out exactly like they went in. After I saw that (and the fungus gnats) my bag or rooters went in the garbage. Initially I thought they were made of peat. Sadly they are not.

Aren't they made of something similar to neoprene? I've had a crusty old bag of them laying around for almost 3 years and they are still moist & squishy when I open the bag. LoL
WTF!?
Kinda like a McDonalds french fry, or a Twinkie.... lol
They will remain after the apocalypse.

 

[Pterostychus]

Aren't they made of something similar to neoprene? I've had a crusty old bag of them laying around for almost 3 years and they are still moist & squishy when I open the bag. LoL
WTF!?
Kinda like a McDonalds french fry, or a Twinkie.... lol
They will remain after the apocalypse.

like this one ... was made 20y ago :

 

[InTheShed]

^^ that is exactly what I have. The thermostat has a probe that goes inside your dome. Works perfectly. As i said before in am almost 100% since getting that mat.

I'm going to put that in my "save for later" amazon cart! I don't think I'll need to be cloning indoors until we get much deeper into winter.

Rapid rooters have fungus gnats ... that and they do not compost meaning after 10 months in my compost bin, they are the only items that come out exactly like they went in. After I saw that (and the fungus gnats) my bag or rooters went in the garbage. Initially I thought they were made of peat. Sadly they are not.

Well that’s done it for me! I wonder what they are made of then. Not breaking down in the compost is a bad sign. Helps to reduce one more option though. I’ll no longer contemplate them. (Which I have when thinking about future cloning possibilities - my seed germination is fine ).
On the heatmat... I just use 1hr on 3hrs off for germination and it works fine.
Hope your day is a good one Shed!

Aren't they made of something similar to neoprene? I've had a crusty old bag of them laying around for almost 3 years and they are still moist & squishy when I open the bag. LoL
WTF!?
Kinda like a McDonalds french fry, or a Twinkie.... lol
They will remain after the apocalypse.

Yeah they seem pretty rubbery to me though I feel like I read somewhere (like bobrown thought) that they were peat. Not if they come out of the compost bin like they went in! Since my success rate in the rooters was very small I'm not sure I'll be using them again.

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Quick Tuesday update...

Note to self: keep track of when the Santa Ana's will be blowing if you are hanging harvested plants.

Short story...I had no idea that the Santa Ana's were coming through this week, and when I got home last night, the ambient RH was 31% and in the shed where the AK was hanging it was 43%. Oy! So instead of not having to worry about when to take them down I had to jump into rehydrate mode!

I've read that you can't rehydrate dried buds. Evs. First I cut them off the stems and pulled off most of the dried fans:

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• InTheShed
• Oct 16, 2018

AK-47 trimmed

Then I filled a bowl with boiling water and put it into a plastic bin and spread the buds out along the bottom:

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• Oct 16, 2018

AK-47 harvest re-moistened

I left them in there for about 30 minutes with the lid on while I made my dad's cookie dough and then dumped them into a cardboard box and closed it up. Two hours later I put them in jars for the night. 80% in there this morning .

Back out of the jars and into the box with the lid off for two hours (kitchen smelled wonderful!) and back into the jars for the day. I'll have my wife check them when she gets home at 5:00 to see if they need to be dumped into the box again.

They seem rehydrated to me .

Also, the AK -47 clone fell off the bench in the wind and bent a few branches.

Dear InTheShed, pay more attention to the weather report.

 

[Amy Gardner]

 

[NorCaliwood]

Drive-by

Hey Shed,, whenever I kind of over dried my weeds,, you can also take a small,, really small slice of apple or pear,, they are my personal favorite, and tape them to the top of your lid of the jar and close up. After acouple three days she'll be nice and moist, then you can remove it.

I hear people say use a orange,, but to me that tastes like medicine. Apples and pears are smooth. That's how we use to keep our cans of tobacco moist and fresh in prison..

 

[InTheShed]

Drive-by

Hey Shed,, whenever I kind of over dried my weeds,, you can also take a small,, really small slice of apple or pear,, they are my personal favorite, and tape them to the top of your lid of the jar and close up. After acouple three days she'll be nice and moist, then you can remove it.

I hear people say use a orange,, but to me that tastes like medicine. Apples and pears are smooth. That's how we use to keep our cans of tobacco moist and fresh in prison..

Thanks Norcali! I used a lime last year (who doesn't like lime ) but that was when they got down the the mid 50's in the jar. This time the hygrometer read 45%, and drastic times call for drastic measures. I fear an apple would have been dessicated in mere minutes .

 

[nobodyhere]

I once threw some bovida packs that were 72% that came with palm cones in with some overdry weed. It's helped a bit, but still not the same.

 

[InTheShed]

I went with steam room.

 

[InTheShed]

Oh, I was so caught up in the Santa Ana's that I forgot to mention that I have switched over to flower nutes for BT1. It got ½ gallon. Into a gallon went:
½ tsp Armor Si
3 ml cal/mag+
¼ tsp Open Sesame
½ tsp Tiger Bloom
2 tbs Big Bloom
2 tbs Terpinator

I watered the AK and Sour G clones as well and gave BT2 a 1/3 diluted mix of that. "That" being:
½ tsp Armor Si
5 ml cal/mag+
1 tsp Grow Big

Dat's all. Just for the record.