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[Heavenly Hybrid]

As soon as that Jack Herer seed goes into a solo cup (tomorrow if it's finally up when I get home)! I will:

rinse perlite
fill a cup with perlite
fill it 1/3 full of distilled water
take a cutting, strip it, and dip'n grow it
put it in the perlite so the bottom is in water
wait...
No dome, no spritzing.

Have I got that right?

Sounds like you gave the VG cloning method the Shed treatment! Lol. It’s much more simple than all that, if you want to stick to what worked for us. Maybe a comparison for science?

- Rinse perlite. Add to
- solo cup (no holes)
- fill 1/3 with water (I used regular tap, no ph-ing)
- add cuttings 1/3 to 1/2 way down (not touching the water)
- wait for roots

I leave it alone until the water has about run out (lift method to test). Sometimes it takes two cycles of 1/3 water, but I’m not very attentive either.

* pro tip- when checking for roots - fill the cup with water and the cuttings will easily slide out.

Did I miss anything @Virgin Ground?

 

[Azimuth]

I leave it alone until the water has about run out (lift method to test). Sometimes it takes two cycles of 1/3 water, but I’m not very attentive either

How long typically before you see roots?

 

[Kismet]

This is Van's recipe post so you can compare! I heard he's just taking a break for a while but I hope he makes it back sometime. And Grandpa disappeared to Florida. Damn!

Thank you for posting this was trying to find it it in Stanks stuff but failed and knew you had it it on auto dial. It;s quite interesting to me. Similar to what i use but beyond a bit . What i do is half that recipe and no cook and supplement in flower with ground malted barley and a bit of kelp meal. Hempy and promix hp aren't really that different than what you are used too you should give it a whirl in a bucket with one hole for a res.

 

[Kismet]

Always love how happy his plants look think it;s close to docs mix or better. I can mix up the clackamas coots mix for a hundy tho and supplement in flower. But i can;t say it isnt perfect other than the crap meal is most likely crab meal.

 

[Kismet]

Granpa ! Last i heard he was lifting weights on the cuban side of florida in his neon g string for the girls in bikinis on the beach. Dam show off if you ask me.

 

[Azimuth]

Hempy and promix hp aren't really that different than what you are used too you should give it a whirl in a bucket with one hole for a res.

See? It's not just me "knocking on your door." And there are probably hundreds more behind us (well, maybe more like two or three, but still...).

That's the universe speaking to you. You should listen. One plant. Then we'll shut up about it. But you have to give it an honest try.

 

[MrSauga]

I mean...seriously?

Might be worth testing the pH of any substrate you pick up, straight out of the bag, so you know prior to going in.

 

[Virgin Ground]

Sounds like you gave the VG cloning method the Shed treatment! Lol. It’s much more simple than all that, if you want to stick to what worked for us. Maybe a comparison for science?

- Rinse perlite. Add to
- solo cup (no holes)
- fill 1/3 with water (I used regular tap, no ph-ing)
- add cuttings 1/3 to 1/2 way down (not touching the water)
- wait for roots

I leave it alone until the water has about run out (lift method to test). Sometimes it takes two cycles of 1/3 water, but I’m not very attentive either.

* pro tip- when checking for roots - fill the cup with water and the cuttings will easily slide out.

Did I miss anything @Virgin Ground?

No domes is all you missed.

@InTheShed
I did a cloning comparative last year. I was trying to root clones four different ways. Reg tap, kelp, cal-mag and mild nutes. The one that beat them all out was plain tap.

I had some woody stems this time around but still had roots by day #9.
I didn't scrape stems or use rooting hormones but feel free to use them.
But perhaps try a regular one as comparison?

 

[Azimuth]

No domes is all you missed.

@InTheShed
I did a cloning comparative last year. I was trying to root clones four different ways. Reg tap, kelp, cal-mag and mild nutes. The one that beat them all out was plain tap.

I had some woody stems this time around but still had roots by day #9.
I didn't scrape stems or use rooting hormones but feel free to use them.
But perhaps try a regular one as comparison?

Sounds very similar in the basics to the hempy version (dome, keep cut bottom above reservoir, perlite medium, etc.) Only difference seems to be how the reservoir is refreshed. Well, that and the hole.

Do you find letting it go drier helps with rooting, or is it more for convenience?

 

[Virgin Ground]

Sounds very similar in the basics to the hempy version (dome, cut above reservoir, perlite medium, etc.) Only difference seems to be how the reservoir is refreshed.

Do you find letting it go drier helps with rooting, or is it more for convenience?

I'm not sure how much it helps with rooting but we know that roots can search for moisture so I'm hoping that's what we're seeing.

I do it this was because I'm a lazy cloner. No fuss , no extra equipment
( Dewey mister etc) but good results.

 

[Azimuth]

I'm not sure how much it helps with rooting but we know that roots can search for moisture so I'm hoping that's what we're seeing.

I do it this was because I'm a lazy cloner. No fuss , no extra equipment
( Dewey mister etc) but good results.

The reason I like the hempy version is I'm going to grow it on as a hempy, so I can just leave it in the rooting cup and keep feeding it until it's big enough to be transplanted in its final pot.

But I guess you could do the same with your method as well.

 

[InTheShed]

Saturday update, then quotes...

Before I went to bed last night, I had a helmet-head Jack Herer sprout breaking the surface, and when I woke up this morning I found this:

20210717_072305 JH sprouts.jpg

• InTheShed
• Jul 17, 2021

Jack Herer replacements

Yes, @BooWho2 was correct when she said:

Said the guy who's gonna have another sprout come up at the edge of the peat.

And @Amy Gardner is right when she says plant it after a 24 hour soak regardless.

Anyway, I wetted the shell and removed the helmet without any trouble. Then I went out to get the ProMix HP, and they guy at the store felt bad about my soil woes and gave me three bottles of Fish-it soil conditioner. No idea what I'll do with them!

20210717_105007 HP.jpg

• InTheShed
• Jul 17, 2021

ProMix HP

As soon as I got home I planted the two sprouts together, because it didn't seem possible to break the peat cleanly enough to safely plant them separately:

20210717_110442 JH sprouts.jpg

• InTheShed
• Jul 17, 2021
• weed seeds express

Jack Herer replacements

Lots more to do today including replanting all the clones in ProMix and going through the Candida STS looking for possibly-viable seeds.

I hope the weekend is going well so far! On to the quotes...

keeping the end of the clone stem above the water (which doesn’t really have to be distilled or pHed).
Even though I’ve gotten clones to sprout roots in plain water, I think it’s best to keep it slightly above it in this case. I believe the additional oxygen helps.

Oh okay, I missed that part of VG's and double H's instructions. Glad you're all in agreement.

The perlite itself will wick enough moisture to keep the cut happy, and also provide more O2 than stale water. Unless you plan on changing out the water but you didn't mention anything about that.

I did miss the part about changing out the water! Double H mentioned it below so I'm getting all the pieces together...

Sounds like you gave the VG cloning method the Shed treatment!

LOL!

I leave it alone until the water has about run out (lift method to test). Sometimes it takes two cycles of 1/3 water, but I’m not very attentive either.

Add water when needed or not. Got it!

* pro tip- when checking for roots - fill the cup with water and the cuttings will easily slide out.

Excellent.

How long typically before you see roots?

This is only an exhibition, not a competition. Please...no wagering.

Hempy and promix hp aren't really that different than what you are used to

Oh they really are, and hempy doesn't go with my growing style as I've mentioned once or twice.

Always love how happy his plants look

Stunning!

Granpa ! Last i heard he was lifting weights on the cuban side of florida in his neon g string for the girls in bikinis on the beach. Dam show off if you ask me.

He's living the high life in velcro sneakers and leaving us all in the lurch.

That's the universe speaking to you. You should listen. One plant. Then we'll shut up about it. But you have to give it an honest try.

This is me crossing the street:

Might be worth testing the pH of any substrate you pick up, straight out of the bag, so you know prior to going in.

Good idea! I will do that sometime this weekend.

I did a cloning comparative last year.

Oh yeah, you did. I remember that with the labeled cup pics.

I didn't scrape stems or use rooting hormones but feel free to use them.
But perhaps try a regular one as comparison?

I only have one branch on the Sour G to try so I'll use my old method, but when I try it with the tops of the stunted JH I will do one each way.

So how long did she live?

The cuts were taken Sept 1, 2020, so it had been in that 1 gallon pot for close to 10 months.

 

[Carcass]

Congrats on the happy little sprouts, Shed!

. I've found that the ones that turn black are duds, every time.

^^Don't listen to this guy...^^

 

[Virgin Ground]

Oooooo....lala

Enjoy your Haute Porosité!!!

 

[Azimuth]

I did miss the part about changing out the water! Double H mentioned it below so I'm getting all the pieces together...

I read it to say they don't change the rez but refill it once it goes down. Sometimes two or three times.

If you go changing out the rez you'll start straying into hempy territory and we know you don't want that.

 

[Virgin Ground]

There really isn't that much difference between the two. One has a hole in the cup....
The cutting isn't sitting in water so the amount of dissolved O2 shouldn't matter as much since it's exposed directly to air.
I could cut a hole in my cup right now and it wouldn't change anything except make it leak a little when I water.
I just don't do it in case I need a cup without a hole later on.

 

[FelipeBlu]

A hole would make it easier to know when your water level is 1/3 of the cup height - and not so high that the end of the stem is sitting in it.

 

[Azimuth]

A hole would make it easier to know when your water level is 1/3 of the cup height - and not so high that the end of the stem is sitting in it.

As well as makes it much easier to refresh the reservoir once it goes stale. No dumping and spilling. Just pouring and filling. I've started making my holes at about 20% of cup height.

But enough about hempy. You do you.

 

[InTheShed]

Congrats on the happy little sprouts, Shed!
^^Don't listen to this guy...^^

LOL! To be honest it didn't change color in the water...it was dark going in. I'm thinking your advice still stands.

Oooooo....lala
Enjoy your Haute Porosité!!!

Thanks, I am!

There really isn't that much difference between the two. One has a hole in the cup....

But enough about hempy.

Are you the guy across the street? I'm having an intentionally difficult time hearing you!

 

[farside05]

I've never seen BX here, and the only person I know who had some was in NC, so might be a southeast seaboard thing.

You know 2 people, but same geographic area, SE TN here. Could never find HP, but the local ACE Hardware stocks BX in 3.8 compressed bales for $55 including tax. Used it until I started making my own Faux-Mix®. Just as an FYI.... I had never tested the initial pH after making a fresh batch of Faux-Mix before, this time I did. I cut back on the amount of pelletized lime this time on a hunch and hit it about square on the head (5.8) when I did my slurry test. Final recipe, 3 cubic foot compressed bale of peat, 12.5 gallon of perlite, 2 cups pelletized lime. Makes 40 gallons worth of growing medium (about the same as a 3.8 compressed bale of Pro-Mix HP.

...the at the store felt bad about my soil woes and gave me three bottles of Fish-it soil conditioner. No idea what I'll do with them!

Mix it with a vat of Terpinator and you'll have Terpish-it. Gotta be careful where you put that hyphen.