I OD'd my first plant too and only got yellowing of the leaf tips. May be something to that.
Shed, are you using Mr. Sauga's "equivalent of" dosages?
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Shed, are you using Mr. Sauga's "equivalent of" dosages?
...I'm not familiar with GF, but given that a lot of Cal Mag brands also have a percentage of Nitrogen, perhaps a shot of that could help?...
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I just started a grow with the GF.
4 GG#4 autos.
I didn’t amend the soil w/gf before I planted the seeds.
#1 & #2 plant are doing ok and the other 2 not so well.
#3 has been sickly and yellow from the start.
the 4th is a runt and I just noticed yellowing on her this AM just before lights out.
#’s 2-3 & 4 just had their first feeding of gf veg on Tuesday at 14 days.
#1 plant is 26 days is doing fine never any issues and ready for her 2nd feeding.
Now i foliar feed all 4 plants daily with a fish emulsion 5-1-1 that I would presume should be getting them the extra nitrogen. But I’m no expert. I also watered all the plants up to their 1st feeding with it.
I’m now having a tendency to believe maybe the runt and the sickly need a stronger dose. I got scared this morning and emptied my sprayer of the emulsion thinking maybe that was the problem then I see this with @InTheShed Here is a photo I took this morning of the runt.
4 GG#4 autos.
I didn’t amend the soil w/gf before I planted the seeds.
#1 & #2 plant are doing ok and the other 2 not so well.
#3 has been sickly and yellow from the start.
the 4th is a runt and I just noticed yellowing on her this AM just before lights out.
#’s 2-3 & 4 just had their first feeding of gf veg on Tuesday at 14 days.
#1 plant is 26 days is doing fine never any issues and ready for her 2nd feeding.
Now i foliar feed all 4 plants daily with a fish emulsion 5-1-1 that I would presume should be getting them the extra nitrogen. But I’m no expert. I also watered all the plants up to their 1st feeding with it.
I’m now having a tendency to believe maybe the runt and the sickly need a stronger dose. I got scared this morning and emptied my sprayer of the emulsion thinking maybe that was the problem then I see this with @InTheShed Here is a photo I took this morning of the runt.
BigD13
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I think maybe you just need to feed it more. Carcass “over fed” his with no ill affects. The GF veg nute’s NPK is 5-3-4 which isn’t a lot compared to something like MC or some of Jack’s stuff. Also, 4% of the N is insoluble, so maybe it‘s not getting what it needs fast enough like it does with something like MC.
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Wasn’t there supposed to be a new geoflora help thread starting?
Didn't @Virgin Ground have a problem similar to that with the Geoflora?
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For those who don't know what we're talking about, check out the post here! Thanks to all for your help and wisdom:
For the Blue Planet nute plants, I am running a nitrogen equivalent to MC based on the advice and training of @MrSauga . I now have enough experience that I run hydrobuddy without any hand-holding these days!
on the getting the first one tomorrow, and I hope that the Canadian supply gets rolling a lot faster so you don't have to wait until August for the second. 
And I'm not a foliar nute sprayer type. Just for pests and PM.
I didn't blend in the GF when I transplanted it, but I did top dress and scratch it in with what I thought was correct for a 1 gallon pot: 3 Tbs.
Thanks Carcass!
Maybe. I have enough on hand to feel comfortable adding more.
I wonder if it's one of those "you need to use more in ProMix HP because we only tested it with soil" kind of things, the way Vulx turned out.
For the Blue Planet nute plants, I am running a nitrogen equivalent to MC based on the advice and training of @MrSauga . I now have enough experience that I run hydrobuddy without any hand-holding these days!
Unfortunately, the cal-mag I just bought is 0-0-0, but I have some 8-0-0 cal mag as well. Though if I have to start mixing stuff into the nute water, I'm tempted to just mix nutes instead. We'll see...
on the getting the first one tomorrow, and I hope that the Canadian supply gets rolling a lot faster so you don't have to wait until August for the second. I always figured Mg to start between the veins rather than the tips, so it could be something easy like nitrogen.
My nutes for this are GF! All there is to look at is brown pellets that smell like shit.
That's quite a range of health Nev. Things that make you go hmmmm...
And I'm not a foliar nute sprayer type. Just for pests and PM.
Sure is paler than the plant to the right of it. Maybe more GF, maybe cal-mag with N. We'll sort this out...
Thanks BigD! That's starting to sound like the best bet before I start adding N or cal-mag to the mix. I did the last top dress last weekend, but I'll give it more tomorrow.
She did, but I think she decided it was a cal-mag deficiency, and I think she is using the same 0-0-0 that I use. I could be wrong as there are a number of plants in a number of locations in a number of journals, so I find it hard to keep track.Didn't @Virgin Ground have a problem similar to that with the Geoflora?
@Nev
Just got fed and are yellow? How many days has it been?
It takes one to two weeks for the GF to be in full swing.
Some plants I use the 0-0-0 cal-mag. If I feel they are too yellow or need help transitioning after transplant I use the 4-0-0 Sensi Xtra. The 0-0-0 I use for flowering plants that I feel are green enough. I also top dress the appropriate amount for the previous pot right after transplant. I put it over the rootball.
The rep was on last week. I'll shoot another email and perhaps kick this off myself. Not sure what the hold up is.
Just got fed and are yellow? How many days has it been?
It takes one to two weeks for the GF to be in full swing.
Some plants I use the 0-0-0 cal-mag. If I feel they are too yellow or need help transitioning after transplant I use the 4-0-0 Sensi Xtra. The 0-0-0 I use for flowering plants that I feel are green enough. I also top dress the appropriate amount for the previous pot right after transplant. I put it over the rootball.
The rep was on last week. I'll shoot another email and perhaps kick this off myself. Not sure what the hold up is.
Hi Shed. So, it just occurred to me......those plants are roughly 55 days old and they are just recently showing their sex? Oof! I’ve got some regs I wanted to try this summer (outdoors). Should I have already started them?
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My plant, look at my plant too!
VG.Not everyone's plants take as long to show sex as mine seem to! But I'll be starting my summer grow (at least 2 fems) in a couple of weeks. Where will you be keeping them before you put them outside, and when can you safely do that?Hi Shed. So, it just occurred to me......those plants are roughly 55 days old and they are just recently showing their sex? Oof! I’ve got some regs I wanted to try this summer (outdoors). Should I have already started them?
I should mention that with all I'm doing that the plant still looks a little rough for about a week. Rough in this instance would be some droopiness and yellowing. I removed a leaf or two but they bounced back.
I should also,also mention that I added ewc ,mykos and microbes to my Pro Mix this go around. I think the GF can be run with straight P Mix but it does much better with a good quality soil that can retain a bit more water. This helped them a lot from what I'm observing. My Ghost Train Haze and Skywalker Og were transplanted a week or so ago.....
I still water mine a little every day.
Pay no attention to their untrained and unruly butts.
This is the Sirius Black that just got transplanted. You can see how she is a little droopy and discolored. I can see today that she is perking up...
These pics are from a few days ago. Lights are off right now.
I missed that. I was summoned into the convo.
I should also,also mention that I added ewc ,mykos and microbes to my Pro Mix this go around. I think the GF can be run with straight P Mix but it does much better with a good quality soil that can retain a bit more water. This helped them a lot from what I'm observing. My Ghost Train Haze and Skywalker Og were transplanted a week or so ago.....
I still water mine a little every day.
This is the Sirius Black that just got transplanted. You can see how she is a little droopy and discolored. I can see today that she is perking up...
These pics are from a few days ago. Lights are off right now.
Also, also, also....oh crap. Sorry.My plant, look at my plant too!
I missed that. I was summoned into the convo.
My plan was to get them started in my little cabinet for a week or two and then move them outside. We should have decent overnight temps by May and if for some reason we don’t I would put them in the basement overnight when needed. I do not want them in the Playhouse for more than they need to be. Just to be safe.
For those who don't know what we're talking about, check out the post here! Thanks to all for your help and wisdom:
I didn't blend in the GF when I transplanted it, but I did top dress and scratch it in with what I thought was correct for a 1 gallon pot: 3 Tbs.
Thanks Carcass!
Maybe. I have enough on hand to feel comfortable adding more.
I wonder if it's one of those "you need to use more in ProMix HP because we only tested it with soil" kind of things, the way Vulx turned out.
For the Blue Planet nute plants, I am running a nitrogen equivalent to MC based on the advice and training of @MrSauga . I now have enough experience that I run hydrobuddy without any hand-holding these days!
Unfortunately, the cal-mag I just bought is 0-0-0, but I have some 8-0-0 cal mag as well. Though if I have to start mixing stuff into the nute water, I'm tempted to just mix nutes instead. We'll see...
I always figured Mg to start between the veins rather than the tips, so it could be something easy like nitrogen.
My nutes for this are GF! All there is to look at is brown pellets that smell like shit.
That's quite a range of health Nev. Things that make you go hmmmm...
And I'm not a foliar nute sprayer type. Just for pests and PM.
Sure is paler than the plant to the right of it. Maybe more GF, maybe cal-mag with N. We'll sort this out...
Thanks BigD! That's starting to sound like the best bet before I start adding N or cal-mag to the mix. I did the last top dress last weekend, but I'll give it more tomorrow.
She did, but I think she decided it was a cal-mag deficiency, and I think she is using the same 0-0-0 that I use. I could be wrong as there are a number of plants in a number of locations in a number of journals, so I find it hard to keep track.
I think that's it.
I pre-treated my ProMix with (too much)GF 28 days before I transplanted into it- I don't have any
yellowing- not yet anyway...
yellowing- not yet anyway...
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Thanks VG, that's what I was thinking, since your ProMix holds more water than mine to begin with. Having gone through this with Vulx I'm getting the feeling that HP needs more of these types of products.
Wait what? Dayum...
Looks overwatered to me, but watering more often is a thing with GF it seems. I watered both my GF plants this morning, about two days earlier than I normally would.
Do I have to tag you on every post?
Right...the old in-and-out leaves you open to bugs, at least that's what I learned in the 70s. Let me know when you decide to drop them and we can sync up!
Interesting! I wasn't sure which one I was going to try the GF on until after transplant, and now I'm switching #1 over to GF so it doesn't have any in the soil either. But even with it in the soil you're supposed to top-dress after two weeks, so maybe the GF will catch up eventually.
Well it seems like pre-mixing at transplant is an important step!
Cal-mag xtra or a bit of blood meal?
More GF?Ewc topdress? What do you have on hand aside from the GF and some MC....and all of the other nutes you have in your own personal hydro store??
It def doesn't look overfed.
Do I have to tag you on every post?
Mebbe....
I'm a very busy woman at present.
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I've got the Blue Planet 8-0-0 cal-mag powder, and the TPS cal-mag 0-0-0. Only the BP cal-mag is N only.
So not an every-two-weeks-ignore-the-rest-of-the-time feeding schedule then...
Then mebbe I will!Mebbe....
Lost in the dark is more apt.
I'm just experimenting at this stage. I have two that I harvested with just the GF a little cal-mag and Pro Mix. They are both really loud smelling and didn't have too many problems but I feel that I can do better and hopefully the changes I've made will work out in the end.
Then maybe you shoooood.
I'm happily at your disposal.
