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Doc Bud said:
RE: hose end sprayer.

Put a splash of dishwashing detergent in it, fill it with water, and spray into a 5 gallon bucket until the tank is empty. You'll have cleaned your sprayer and figured out how much water comes out the end and how long a tank of drench/tea would last.

As long as you evenly distribute it to both plants, you're good to go! I would try to FINISH your watering cycle on the drench, however. So if the plants require say 4 gallons each, water first and drench on the last 2 gallons, etc.
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Awesome, that makes perfect sense Doc.

Thank you very much! This is crazy... I don't have any more questions at the moment! :cheesygrinsmiley:

Ill be back though haha.
 
Doc - I think my question yesterday got missed. I'd like to make sure I understand the best practices with the kit.
Any help / insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Major PITA said:
Yes - they will start indoors but move outside around June 1st.
I think I must be missing some fundamental concept about using the kit.
Since the kit is designed for 6 plants / 32 sq ft / 40 gal total of HB soil (m/l), I figured the amount of drench and tea would remain the same once the plants are up-potted into their final home. But you're saying to use 50% more drench and 4 times the usual amount of tea even though the amount of soil is the same and I only have 2 plants? So each plant gets 12 times the tea they would get if I was growing 6 plants in 7 gal pots?
Please help me understand why. Also, won't I run out of drench and tea quickly?
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Major PITA said:
Doc - I think my question yesterday got missed. I'd like to make sure I understand the best practices with the kit.
Any help / insight is greatly appreciated.
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I honestly get lost with questions like this. I can't remember how many plants each person is growing, etc.

A seven gallon pot is ONE square foot. A 4x8 tray full of seven gallon pots can and should be treated like 32 sq ft. Container growing requires slightly higher feedings, due to leeching action.

I don't know where you get the 12x the tea and all that. I'm sorry, I just can't follow all the little intricacies of each situation that well. There is a very large margin of error when it comes to the drenches (not the sprays!).

What sized containers are you going to finish in?
 
Major PITA said:
Doc - I think my question yesterday got missed. I'd like to make sure I understand the best practices with the kit.
Any help / insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Doc Bud said:
I honestly get lost with questions like this. I can't remember how many plants each person is growing, etc.

A seven gallon pot is ONE square foot. A 4x8 tray full of seven gallon pots can and should be treated like 32 sq ft. Container growing requires slightly higher feedings, due to leeching action.

I don't know where you get the 12x the tea and all that. I'm sorry, I just can't follow all the little intricacies of each situation that well. There is a very large margin of error when it comes to the drenches (not the sprays!).

What sized containers are you going to finish in?
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I think was Doc was saying, was even though you are only feeding two Cannabis plants, you are still feeding the entire kit of H.B. soil. Plus once the leeching is taken into consideration I believe he is saying that 1 1/2 OZ of the Drench and 10ml of the Tea in a hose end sprayer distributed evenly between your 2 plants and 32sqft of soil is the correct amount to be using.

It does say in the instructions that 2.5mils of tea is good for the entire 32sqft of soil, so the jump to 10mils does seem high. Although if the margin for error really is as low as it is advertised to be, why don't you start with what you think is the correct amount for your plants and go from there.

That's the best way to figure it out, and probably the route I will take this summer :cheesygrinsmiley:

Thanks Doc for all of the advice and information.
 
MaxYields said:
I think was Doc was saying, was even though you are only feeding two Cannabis plants, you are still feeding the entire kit of H.B. soil. Plus once the leeching is taken into consideration I believe he is saying that 1 1/2 OZ of the Drench and 10ml of the Tea in a hose end sprayer distributed evenly between your 2 plants and 32sqft of soil is the correct amount to be using.

It does say in the instructions that 2.5mils of tea is good for the entire 32sqft of soil, so the jump to 10mils does seem high. Although if the margin for error really is as low as it is advertised to be, why don't you start with what you think is the correct amount for your plants and go from there.

That's the best way to figure it out, and probably the route I will take this summer :cheesygrinsmiley:

Thanks Doc for all of the advice and information.
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Thanks Max. You hit it perfectly.

RE 2.5 mils of tea.....PERFECT for in indoor grow under wimpy lighting, like mine.

But outside we get the sun.....the plants are WAY larger and their metabolism is higher....so they require more...hence my recommendations.
 
Doc Bud said:
Thanks Max. You hit it perfectly.

RE 2.5 mils of tea.....PERFECT for in indoor grow under wimpy lighting, like mine.

But outside we get the sun.....the plants are WAY larger and their metabolism is higher....so they require more...hence my recommendations.
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Of course Doc,

The more I read and research this topic the more it starts to make sense. Cannot wait to see how the kit does outside, I know I am going to have such a blast growing in it. Spent a lot of time and thought on my strain selection, have a time line all layed out, working on a Drench and Foliar schedule in Excel as we speak.. It is going to be an awesome Summer!

Soil cook starts April 1st, to be ready for early May... Can't decide how I want to start the plants though! Maybe I'll cut clones soon and let them Veg under 24 hours of light for a month or so... Plants in 24 hour light can be moved outside without any detrimental effects correct? They would still be vegging?
 
MaxYields said:
Of course Doc,

The more I read and research this topic the more it starts to make sense. Cannot wait to see how the kit does outside, I know I am going to have such a blast growing in it. Spent a lot of time and thought on my strain selection, have a time line all layed out, working on a Drench and Foliar schedule in Excel as we speak.. It is going to be an awesome Summer!

Soil cook starts April 1st, to be ready for early May... Can't decide how I want to start the plants though! Maybe I'll cut clones soon and let them Veg under 24 hours of light for a month or so... Plants in 24 hour light can be moved outside without any detrimental effects correct? They would still be vegging?
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Yep and Yep! large containers rock for outdoors. VERY large.
 
My two girls will move outdoors in 30 gal. smart pots.
 
kpunx said:
Hey Doc, thanks for the PM. If I understand correctly, one kit is good for one bale, which is good for about 6 7 gallon pots? I'd like to order one kit please.
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If you got my PM, please re-read it.
 
Doc, I have read, and patially obsorbed the vast quantity of information you and others have generously shared with us all via your threads on this forum, I am in awe of the simplicity that your growing system delivers, would you please PM me so we can discuss a purchase.
 
Doc Bud said:
Put a few leaves on top, with a slight dusting of Roots!. If you don't see fuzz and digestion of the leaf in a couple days, sumpin's wrong.
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Major PITA said:
On it. Will report back either way.
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Well good news (I think). It took more than a couple of days, but the leaves dusted with Roots! are finally disolving into the soil and I can see some white fuzz around them. I'm thinking the slow action is due to the HP Promix being old. I went back to Homer's. They have stacks of bales still and the date on the bags is 02/14. So I'm sure mine was a year old too, when mixed.
 
Major PITA said:
Well good news (I think). It took more than a couple of days, but the leaves dusted with Roots! are finally disolving into the soil and I can see some white fuzz around them. I'm thinking the slow action is due to the HP Promix being old. I went back to Homer's. They have stacks of bales still and the date on the bags is 02/14. So I'm sure mine was a year old too, when mixed.
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There's life....nothing to worry about.
 
Major PITA said:
Well good news (I think). It took more than a couple of days, but the leaves dusted with Roots! are finally disolving into the soil and I can see some white fuzz around them. I'm thinking the slow action is due to the HP Promix being old. I went back to Homer's. They have stacks of bales still and the date on the bags is 02/14. So I'm sure mine was a year old too, when mixed.
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Hey pita....I did some checking online, cause my soil had 08/2014 on it. What I found was that promix says their soil is good for 6-9 months. But what I couldn't find was if the date was born on or expiration? Hope that helps....I got white fuzz a couple of days after dusting leaves and putting them in.

I guess while I'm posting....a question should we all be getting condinsation on lid? Cause I have none after a week.....a lot of white fuzz though.
 
NematodeNate said:
Hey pita....I did some checking online, cause my soil had 08/2014 on it. What I found was that promix says their soil is good for 6-9 months. But what I couldn't find was if the date was born on or expiration? Hope that helps....I got white fuzz a couple of days after dusting leaves and putting them in.

I guess while I'm posting....a question should we all be getting condinsation on lid? Cause I have none after a week.....a lot of white fuzz though.
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You're good to go with the fuzz.....lol.

I think when the weather warms up you'll see the condensation.

There is myko in the amendment, so you're all gonna be just fine.
 
Doc,

I've been reading your journals and some of the people that use your product. I would like to buy a kit for my first attempt, but I am unable to PM you.

Thanks
Cobra
 
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