Icemud's LED Overkill - 3x Advanced LED XTE 300s - Blue Dream - University Hills OG

iluvsnow said:
I'm along for the ride. I was also wondering how much you use your light meter. Did you get it just to test all those sweet LEDs you've been rocking, or has it been useful in setting up your lights? Was it worth the cash?

Looking forward to another awesome grow and I hope the new job is going well.

:peace:
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I use the PAR meter quite often, anytime I am raising/lowering the lights or adjusting them I pull it out to make sure the plants are getting their required Umol... I think it was a great investment, not only for testing, but also to really get a good Idea of light placement. For me it was worth the cash, however I am a lighting nerd, lol so I don't know if others would really get the same use out of it like I do :)
 
Quick photo update!!! Plants are looking more perky today after giving them earth juice tea the last few days. I also added some biominerals to the top of the soil to help aid in their deficiencies and they seem to be getting better by the day.

Not much else to report at the moment :)

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Sweet Update Ice :thumb:
 
Hi Icemud!
Thank you very much for your journal! After following your grow I decided to get 1 XTE 300.
I’ve been wondering if you would like to share your expertise with PAR & umol measurements. That would be awesome if you would be willing to share your XTE300 settings (lamp to plant distance and blue/red dimming) from seed to harvest!
Thank you very much for your awesome work & I can’t wait to get my XTE!
Sushi
 
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subbed and stoned happily following along:smokin: looking damn good and loving the overkill LED!!!!!!

Quick Q.
What is it that has made you wanna rid of the blue dream and Black cherry cola????
 
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sir grow alot said:
subbed and stoned happily following along:smokin: looking damn good and loving the overkill LED!!!!!!

Quick Q.
What is it that has made you wanna rid of the blue dream and Black cherry cola????
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I'm keeping the blue dream and black cherry cola as well as the University Hills OG... but the mystery kush, and "imposter GDP and Purple urkle" which I am almost certain are GSC, will be getting culled after this grow because I don't need them and don't like having unknown genetics in my garden.

Thanks for the compliments :) Glad to have ya riding along for this one.... Hopefully my yield is overkill too :)
 
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Someone on another website had asked me what my PAR readings were across the tent with the 3x XTE 300's so I decided taking a video was easier....and since the information was a good reference, I wanted to share it here as well cause I luv yall!! yea you know it!! haha

Anyhow...

Forgive my lack of accuracy, it was very hard to hold the meter, sensor and camera as well as try to maintain the video framing and also reading the numbers all while stoned off my ass and super hyped off my caffine from earlier today...LOL... funny imagery right?! lol

1. This video was meant for meer reference only, and not in any way to be taken as accurate readings or a depiction of these panels total output.

2. Apogee par meters are fairly accurate but do misread light above 650-660nm and light below 460nm which has as much as a 10% error rate...but when I spoke with the Apogee engineer, he said that on average for measuring LED lights the reading would represent about a 5% total error range but could be higher depending the amount or percentage of deep red light and deep blue light... For more accurate readings, please contact Advanced LED or refer to my 1st page that shows the readings that Advanced LED took with a LiCor Par meter which is much more accurate than the Apogee one I have..

3. I tried my best to keep my readings at the right height while taking measurements, but I may be off as I was concentrating on filming, holding the meter/sensor and reading the readings as well as the sensor position, so as I mentioned before, this is not a Lab grade analysis of the performance of the lights but more of a reference...

Anyhow... Here is the video :)
 
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Icemud! Good morning! I would like to invite you and your readers to my 1st grow journal. It would be great to see you there! :)

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Subscribed Icemud.
 
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60cal said:
Subscribed Icemud.
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Hey 60cal!!!! Really Happy to have you here!
 
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Hey Ice, subbed in again!

I followed your last journal and thanks a lot for all the detailed updates. It's clear you put some effort into your grows and your updates.

Couple of Q's about this setup if you don't mind:
You said you feel the 3 lights are probably overkill for the space you're running. In your opinion and based on your experience running these fixtures, what sized area do you think these 3 x XTE300s could be really comfortable dealing with? And how do you think that a couple of these with a 315 LEC/CMH thrown in between might work out compared to say 3 of these alone?

Best of luck for a great grow.
 
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HeavyConsumer said:
Hey Ice, subbed in again!

I followed your last journal and thanks a lot for all the detailed updates. It's clear you put some effort into your grows and your updates.

Couple of Q's about this setup if you don't mind:
You said you feel the 3 lights are probably overkill for the space you're running. In your opinion and based on your experience running these fixtures, what sized area do you think these 3 x XTE300s could be really comfortable dealing with? And how do you think that a couple of these with a 315 LEC/CMH thrown in between might work out compared to say 3 of these alone?

Best of luck for a great grow.
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Hey Heavy Consumer!!

Happy to have you here!

I'm happy to share the details with the community :) It's pretty much how I learned most of what I know through others here :)

Def don't mind some questions


Yea the 3x Advanced LED XTE 300's in my tent is definitely not needed, but when I shot the PPFD the other day it actually made for an almost perfect light setup for my tent... but definitely the 2 in my last grow did absolutely fine... with that being said.. Currently Ronnie is doing a grow with 3x of the same lights over a 3.5x7' area and they are rocking his garden

Advanced LED New XTE 300 Sponsored Grow

:thanks: in advance for all questions and comments. :)
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According to Advanced LED's website, each XTE 300 covers a 3.5'x4' area and under optimal lighting it says they cover 3'x3'.

They actually do spread quite well when hung between 24" and 36" height and according to my readings did provide high readings on my Quantum meter so I would say their coverage area is probably about right. I would say maybe under optimal it may be closer to 2 1/2' x 3' or so, but I have never measured a full grid with my quantum meter so its really hard to say without the measurements to say accurately.

I absolutely think if you added a CMH between each one that would rock your plants as it would really minimize any leaf shading and really help with lower buds as well as provide for a absolutely near perfect spectrum for veg and flowering in my opinion. If I had a room sized grow I almost certainly would rock LED with CMH because they both are very high PAR numbers and offer a different kind of spread of the light... LED's are very directional and intense and CMH would spread very evenly (depending on reflector used and how its mounted). I love LEDs and I love CMH and haven't combined the 2, but I think that would give amazing results in yield and quality.

What size room are you looking to illuminate? and what style of growing are you planning on? Depending on this I may be able to help give a more accurate suggestion on lighting. If you are growing scrog or sea of green I probably would recommend more smaller LED's Covering the area, vs if you were growing some large monster plants then I would probably suggest going with much larger wattage LED's but again this is dependant on your room size too.

Either way, Advanced LED by themselves amazed me on my last grow, so they work great by themselves...but definitely adding a CMH to them mix would be amazing too :)
 
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Icemud said:
Hey Heavy Consumer!!

Happy to have you here!

I'm happy to share the details with the community :) It's pretty much how I learned most of what I know through others here :)

Def don't mind some questions


Yea the 3x Advanced LED XTE 300's in my tent is definitely not needed, but when I shot the PPFD the other day it actually made for an almost perfect light setup for my tent... but definitely the 2 in my last grow did absolutely fine... with that being said.. Currently Ronnie is doing a grow with 3x of the same lights over a 3.5x7' area and they are rocking his garden

Advanced LED New XTE 300 Sponsored Grow

:thanks: in advance for all questions and comments. :)
www.420magazine.com
According to Advanced LED's website, each XTE 300 covers a 3.5'x4' area and under optimal lighting it says they cover 3'x3'.

They actually do spread quite well when hung between 24" and 36" height and according to my readings did provide high readings on my Quantum meter so I would say their coverage area is probably about right. I would say maybe under optimal it may be closer to 2 1/2' x 3' or so, but I have never measured a full grid with my quantum meter so its really hard to say without the measurements to say accurately.

I absolutely think if you added a CMH between each one that would rock your plants as it would really minimize any leaf shading and really help with lower buds as well as provide for a absolutely near perfect spectrum for veg and flowering in my opinion. If I had a room sized grow I almost certainly would rock LED with CMH because they both are very high PAR numbers and offer a different kind of spread of the light... LED's are very directional and intense and CMH would spread very evenly (depending on reflector used and how its mounted). I love LEDs and I love CMH and haven't combined the 2, but I think that would give amazing results in yield and quality.

What size room are you looking to illuminate? and what style of growing are you planning on? Depending on this I may be able to help give a more accurate suggestion on lighting. If you are growing scrog or sea of green I probably would recommend more smaller LED's Covering the area, vs if you were growing some large monster plants then I would probably suggest going with much larger wattage LED's but again this is dependant on your room size too.

Either way, Advanced LED by themselves amazed me on my last grow, so they work great by themselves...but definitely adding a CMH to them mix would be amazing too :)
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Thanks for your reply Ice!

I don't even have the room itself yet. I'm planning to grab a Gorilla tent no smaller than 4 x 8ft as an all-purpose room, maybe 5 x 9 - I don't mind if it isn't full the 1st few runs. Hope to be up and running with my 1st proper grow before this summer kicks in - got a relocation to get through first. I'm not worrying about getting into perpetual systems yet or even scrogging or SOG, I just want to learn some basics, get used to a setup and then, after a few runs, maybe I'll be ready for focussing more on yields. Most likely either a RDWC or ebb and flow 8 bucket system - I want to keep my plant count below 10 most of the time - currently leaning towards the RDWC, but undecided and plenty more reading to do - fairly certain on hydro although my mind is still open. Toying with the idea of a run of autos to get used to the space and equipment and once I'm comfortable, IF I get as far as flowering those, crack some photo fem seeds to start off in the same space while the autos finish.

My biggest issue with lighting specifically is price! I want to keep energy consumption and heat levels down, while also not buying something I'll see as disposable in a year, so high efficiency LED is my preference, even though the tech is advancing fast. As a slightly cheaper alternative to those panels, some of which will be on the shopping list, I'm looking at the Sun System 315W LEC units as plug and play, low wattage, low-ish heat output devices to mix in. So far all the 315LEC grow journals I've been following seem to be kicking ass and reviews are strong. As I'm in no immediate rush, I'm waiting to see what A51 launch in the coming months, but also trying to read up as much as poss' on Hans, Advanced LED and Plant Photonics, while keeping my eyes peeled for further options. The Advanced panels are pricey, but they look decent, can be used well for both veg' and flower and when I phoned them and asked Kyle some Q's, I was more than happy with how I was treated! Eventually, once I get through the initial headaches of burning up and drowning my plants and locking out nutes, I may grow the balls to start looking at DIY lighting, but there will be commercial COBs in the stores long before then!

Thanks again man. Lots of good info in your reply for me to keep in mind. I hope this grow goes even better than your last and will be drooling once you start showing off your buds again.
 
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HeavyConsumer said:
Thanks for your reply Ice!

I don't even have the room itself yet. I'm planning to grab a Gorilla tent no smaller than 4 x 8ft as an all-purpose room, maybe 5 x 9 - I don't mind if it isn't full the 1st few runs. Hope to be up and running with my 1st proper grow before this summer kicks in - got a relocation to get through first. I'm not worrying about getting into perpetual systems yet or even scrogging or SOG, I just want to learn some basics, get used to a setup and then, after a few runs, maybe I'll be ready for focussing more on yields. Most likely either a RDWC or ebb and flow 8 bucket system - I want to keep my plant count below 10 most of the time - currently leaning towards the RDWC, but undecided and plenty more reading to do - fairly certain on hydro although my mind is still open. Toying with the idea of a run of autos to get used to the space and equipment and once I'm comfortable, IF I get as far as flowering those, crack some photo fem seeds to start off in the same space while the autos finish.

My biggest issue with lighting specifically is price! I want to keep energy consumption and heat levels down, while also not buying something I'll see as disposable in a year, so high efficiency LED is my preference, even though the tech is advancing fast. As a slightly cheaper alternative to those panels, some of which will be on the shopping list, I'm looking at the Sun System 315W LEC units as plug and play, low wattage, low-ish heat output devices to mix in. So far all the 315LEC grow journals I've been following seem to be kicking ass and reviews are strong. As I'm in no immediate rush, I'm waiting to see what A51 launch in the coming months, but also trying to read up as much as poss' on Hans, Advanced LED and Plant Photonics, while keeping my eyes peeled for further options. The Advanced panels are pricey, but they look decent, can be used well for both veg' and flower and when I phoned them and asked Kyle some Q's, I was more than happy with how I was treated! Eventually, once I get through the initial headaches of burning up and drowning my plants and locking out nutes, I may grow the balls to start looking at DIY lighting, but there will be commercial COBs in the stores long before then!

Thanks again man. Lots of good info in your reply for me to keep in mind. I hope this grow goes even better than your last and will be drooling once you start showing off your buds again.
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For sure..anytime on the help... for a 4x8 hydro system most likely you will need something with pretty good penetration and coverage area as well. I would probably suggest, if you went with advanced led, to get pretty much 1 XTE 300 for each plant, which would be pricy. Most LED panels with good chips are pricy because the cost of premium LED's is about 4-5x as much as other like epistar and epiled, but they also have the data on them to prove long life and good lumen maintenance.

If that setup was mine and I was going to light it with advanced Led and ceramic and money wasnt and option, I probably would get either 8 of the XTE 300's, or 8 of the XML350's and hang each one above 1 plant. Then I would probably get 2 ceramic metal halides that hang around the canopy level if you are growing in 2 rows. These would give a good side lighting to the plants, with these hanging in between. I mean that would be an Ideal lighting situation if money wasn't an option as well as proper environmental control were taken.

I can't really comment on the other brands you mentioned since I've never used them, and never really have seen much on them or people using them. I know Advanced has been around for quite a while now so I feel confident that these lights will last for a while, as they run very very cool.

You definitely couldn't go wrong with using LED with CMH bulbs... They are both really legit by themselves, and I bet combined would also rock :)
 
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