Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spectrum

[Icemud]

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But there is 4 of those I thought. If I'm wrong wow. Better job.

Cheers

Thanks Millertm Yep it was just 2 lights, 170w each I'm very impressed the power of the GODs

 

[millertm]

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Nice, big LED grown plants, awesome.

Cheers

 

[ShiggityFlip]

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Super nice Ice! Have you picked final phenos? Or are you running them all a bit more?

 

[Icemud]

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Super nice Ice! Have you picked final phenos? Or are you running them all a bit more?

Well Its down to 3 choices, #3, #5 (which I didn't sample last grow because it got moldy and I tossed it) and #6 (purple pheno). So far my favorite 2 were #3 and #6 but #5 really seemed much like #3 in smell and structure, but more mass. So it will depend on how they all turn out after drying. Most likely I will keep 2, and definitely the purple pheno is going to be a keeper. Just deciding on either #3 or #5. The #3 really has a strong orange/tangerine smell after drying so I really like it. If #5 has the same smell, then most likely I will keep #5 as it was a better yielder and better bud structure. Its really hard to say but I have a feeling it will be #3 and #6 as my keepers.

I will be putting my 3rd tent back up this week and then I will be taking clones of all of them so I can start my seed projects

 

[Fuzzy Duck]

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Ah i see the girls under the GOD panels have been prepared for drying 'n' curing

Averaged 8 weeks of flowering seems pretty good for over all tric development, i'm sorry to be a pain in the back side Ice but if you do not mind... could you please mention expected flowering times of the strains grown for an over all idea/comparison please.


It is just that the pistils where noticed to change colour early on but some thought was that foliar spraying may off burnt them ? not going to rule that out yet as it is the first time using the GOD panels & a few other grows should enlighten the subject

Mmm smaller bud ah looking pretty good to me with power consumption per panel more likely not far off 2 to 3 oz per girlie as a wild guess... i don't think i could do much better with a 400w hps in my own experience & at half the cost of electric.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

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Well Its down to 3 choices, #3, #5 (which I didn't sample last grow because it got moldy and I tossed it) and #6 (purple pheno). So far my favorite 2 were #3 and #6 but #5 really seemed much like #3 in smell and structure, but more mass. So it will depend on how they all turn out after drying. Most likely I will keep 2, and definitely the purple pheno is going to be a keeper. Just deciding on either #3 or #5. The #3 really has a strong orange/tangerine smell after drying so I really like it. If #5 has the same smell, then most likely I will keep #5 as it was a better yielder and better bud structure. Its really hard to say but I have a feeling it will be #3 and #6 as my keepers.

I will be putting my 3rd tent back up this week and then I will be taking clones of all of them so I can start my seed projects

It sounds like a solid plan Ice. I am also very careful about dumping phenos until fully given a chance. You never want to accidentally get rid of a good one!

 

[Icemud]

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Ah i see the girls under the GOD panels have been prepared for drying 'n' curing

Averaged 8 weeks of flowering seems pretty good for over all tric development, i'm sorry to be a pain in the back side Ice but if you do not mind... could you please mention expected flowering times of the strains grown for an over all idea/comparison please.


It is just that the pistils where noticed to change colour early on but some thought was that foliar spraying may off burnt them ? not going to rule that out yet as it is the first time using the GOD panels & a few other grows should enlighten the subject

Mmm smaller bud ah looking pretty good to me with power consumption per panel more likely not far off 2 to 3 oz per girlie as a wild guess... i don't think i could do much better with a 400w hps in my own experience & at half the cost of electric.

Hey Fuzzy Duck

Yep, the GOD tent is harvested, hanging and drying should be about a week and then into jars they go Can't wait

Well they were chopped on day 67 of flowering (from the flip) which brings them to about almost 10 weeks of flowering, which based on studies I have seen seems to be right around the optimal time for trichome potency.

Budmaster GOD (current) 67 days.
Last grow with the COBs I harvested on day 70
Under Advanced LED I had flowering times of 64 days, 80 days, and 72 days
Under Igro's: 67 days and 69 days,
Under Mars II: 67 days and 76 days
Under 1000w of HID (400 CMH and 600 HPS): 74 days, 75 days, 75 days, 100 days, 65 days.

So based on those flower times (all counted from the flip) it looks like between 67 and 75 days is my usual for harvest time. So looking at the pistils that turned amber early this grow, I think it may have been the foliar sprays that did it, but also the time of the harvest was pretty much right in line with my past grows, maybe a week earlier, but not much different. Overall it seems that my LED grows are about 1 week shorter than HID, but again since really its up to me when I pull them I would say they are about dead even as far as time.

I don't go by "expected grow time" or suggested grow times and just let the trichmes color tell me, along with the swollen calyx's and the color of the pistils. I usually wait until most pistils are brown and shrivled, and the plants at this point start putting out "puffs" of white pistils. This typically is my indicator that the plant is ready and then I look at the trichomes.

The buds were not much smaller (the tops) as past grows with more wattage, so I'm quite impressed overall with the GOD's capabilities. I guess we will know in about a week when they are dry and ready for trimming/manicuring and jars. I will weigh each plant and compare .

 

[Icemud]

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It sounds like a solid plan Ice. I am also very careful about dumping phenos until fully given a chance. You never want to accidentally get rid of a good one!

Yep, I am really going to leave it up to how they turned out this grow. If I have to keep all 3 and run them one more time, I don't mind Really my question is how #5 turned out since it molded last grow due to me rushing things so I never got to try it. I'm really curious how it smells and tastes after curing as the smell is very similar to #3, but yielded much better. If it has the same flavor, smell and potency as #3, then I will keep #5 and get rid of #3 since it was the smallest yield of the tangies this grow (by look). The smell and taste though is something else, after curing for about a month, the smell of orange/citrus/tangerine is amazing!

 

[SweetSue]

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That's great Icemud! I've found this process fascinating. I'm so glad you document so well, because someday I'm going to try this and you, sir, will mentor me from the archives of your grow journals.

 

[Fuzzy Duck]

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Cheers for extra info Ice & offers good insight.


I'm getting reasonable tempted for the GODs myself & found a local reseller for em but must see what the COBs do first !

Thinking of a 6 led cluster panel & get a new tent to accommodate the bigger light foot print 80cm by 120cm i believe ? may even change grow style to scrog perhaps 2 or 3 plants in that space or 6 to 8 bush type plants may be topped etc (working on a plan of action)




But i must admit after some banter on synthetic vs organic my conscience gave my a little gip about it & reminder not to over look the virtues of organic principles...

I believe that tells me i should follow my heart in the matters at hand

 

[CaneyeBus]

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I was debating on waiting another week or so, but the trichomes were all cloudy and some amber which is perfect for me so I decided it was time Really excited to try these new strains as they smell amazing I love the colors too that purple pheno of tangie is beautiful

I think ya did right Ice. Scratch that, you know you did right. Those new pistil spurts in my mind are the plants last ditch effort to grab stray pollen. She knew her time was near. I've been reading up on organics and no til los Ice. I'll be crossing over to the sane side of growing as I like to call it, in the near future. Just have a bit more studying to do. Again, stellar run my man. big ups!

StayFrosty
CanEyeBus

 

[Hozona]

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What CanEyeBus said! I keep hearing Vanilla Ice in my head for some reason? Ice, Ice Baby...Ice, Ice Baby... Looks like everybody at 420 is keeping busy experimenting and on the most part, succeeding! What a great knowledge base we have here at 420! Clear, cloudy, amber is the right progression...if I want a heady high I aim for clear, with some cloudy, and very few amber. If I am looking for a body stone I go for more cloudy/amber combination. Depends on what you need...
Keep up the great work!
HOZ

 

[Icemud]

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Happy Good Friday to everyone!!! I will have some updates for everyone later this weekend. Got a lot of trimming to do tonight

 

[Hozona]

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Happy Good Friday to everyone!!! I will have some updates for everyone later this weekend. Got a lot of trimming to do tonight

Ice! Looking forward to it! Did some transplanting into both Aero and soil, and took clones to replace them. I only have three youngsters from seed. All the rest (5 mature, 4 teens (two in raised planter two in Aero), and (6 clones in bucket) are female
Things at present looking good here, but YOU ARE KILLING IT!!! Great job!
HOZ

 

[Icemud]

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The Budmaster COB tent update:



Well as all the plants from the GOD tent were trimmed yesterday and today I cleaned out the flowering tent in preparation for moving over some of the vegging plants to the flowering tent. I have not yet decided which strains will continue on to flowering and which ones may get left behind for next grow, or iv I will just flower out all 8. I took clones of all the strains in the COB tent today using my typical technique of clonex, a humidity dome, 26w cool white cfl and root riot plugs.

Here is my cloning video for those who have never seen it before.

[video]

I did add I clipping of my aloe plant to the water which is different from the video, but other than that everything else is the same.

So along with taking clones I gave the plants in veg another haircut and did some pruning/topping of the plants to reduce their height and to help fill in the canopy. I figure since it will be about a week before I put them into flowering or so in the other tent, that will allow them to recover and get ready for flowering.

I am still running the Gas Lantern routine and the plants seem to love it and are thriving

Other than that not much else to report on. Here are the photos for today

 

[Icemud]

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So I spent most of this morning as well as last night trimming all 7 of the plants from the GOD tent. The one thing I noticed immediately was how fragrant the plants were. I mean they smelled absolutely amazing but also extremely pungent and Im almost certain anyone walking by my apartment could smell it. I did one plant at a time and kept the tent closed as well as burned incense to help mask the immediate smell but man... so potent!!!! I'm legal and all in my state, but still don't want to "broadcast" my hobby. LOL

I made sure this time to let the plants dry a full week before trimming/manicuring them and jarring them because of what happened last grow when I rushed things, and the buds were perfectly dry, with just a slight bit of moisture deep in the buds which will help the curing be smooth Aftter trimming all the plants I weighted each one and the total weight of this harvest was 228.1Grams or .67 Grams per watt.

Here are my total weights for all of my grows and G/w
Grow 1: 1000w HID (400w CMH + 600w HPS) Total yield 574g or .57 grams/watt
Grow 2: 1000w HID (400w CMH + 600w HPS) Total yield 547g or .55 grams/watt
Grow 3: 1000w HID (400w CMH + 600w HPS) No Yield Data (Powder Mildew took over)
Grow 4: 1000w HID (400w CMH + 600w HPS) Total yield 325g or .33 grams/watt
Grow 5: 580w (400w CMH + Mars II 400w) Total yield 245g or .42 grams/watt
Grow 6: 540w LED (3x Mars II 400/180w models) Total yield 308g or .57 grams/watt
Grow 7:>300w LED (2x Intelligent Gro, GEN1, 180w each on dimmer) Total yield 191g or .63 grams/watt
Grow 8: 540W LED (3x Intelligent Gro, GEN2, 180w draw each) Total yield 367g or .70 grams/watt
Grow 9: 494W LED (2x Advanced LED XTE300, 247w draw each), Total yield 391.4g or .79grams/watt
Grow 10: 750W LED (3x Advanced LED XTE300, 247w draw each, Total yield 475.1g or .63G/Watt
Grow 11 (2x Advanced LED first 30 days of flowering (247w each), 2x Budmaster COB-x-4 at 400w total) Total yield 327.7g or .81g/watt @ 400w, .65g/watt @500w)
Current Grow, 340W (2x Budmaster GOD-4, 170w draw each), Total yield 228g or .67 Grams/watt.



So overall the Grams per watt seems to be towards the higher side of my LED grows, but my yield was way down this run. Now this I believe is due to a couple things...
-I had an overwatering issue in mid flowering which seemed to stall out the plants
-The plants had gotten way too tall, and required constant adjusting and supercropping and overall got much too close to the lights, which caused shading of some of the plants inbetween the lights, as well as the lower canopy.

Now I know that Grams per watt is only really a guage of my rate of success in my personal grow, however even between grows things change such as nutrients used somewhat, watering frequencies, temp and humidity...etc... so I only use gram/watt in sort of a broad range aspect, of how decent overall the effiencie of my grow space is, and not an indicator of a lights performance since every grower is different...


Now on the plus side, even though the weight was low and the gram/watt was mid-high range of what I normally get, the one thing that really stands out with the GOD grow is that the buds were unbelievably fragrant. The Ogiesel which I sort of use to guage the sucess of the grow and have run it probably on 5 different grows under different lights is a pretty key indicator. This grow under the GOD panels took the Ogiesel to a whole new height, I mean it was like a new strain to me the way it tasted when I packed a bowl. Just utter skunky and the sour diesel came out very strong along with the og, just complete mouth watering dank smelling and tasting. The best flavor and overall quality of my ogiesel to date very pleased.

As far as the other strains, the same is true, and all came out extremely fragrant and potent smelling and loaded with trichomes. I will snap some photos of the individual strains later but I'm tired after a long day of working on my garden and apartment, time to relax after this post

I definitely am happy with the budmaster GOD's and with 340w total draw I wasn't expecting much as far as yield which proved true, however the quality of the buds was I would honestly say the best I have grown yet.. they are absolutely mouth watering

 

[Hozona]

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McDs!

 

[Icemud]

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Here are the budshots of the newly harvested plants


I will do a smoke report in about a week when they get into their curing phase but I have taken a few samples already and wow! is all I can say!




Tangie #3

Black Diamond OG

Fire OG:

OGiesel:

Tangie #5

Tangie #8

Tangie #6

 

[Hozona]

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[josh223]

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Here are the budshots of the newly harvested plants


I will do a smoke report in about a week when they get into their curing phase but I have taken a few samples already and wow! is all I can say!




Tangie #3

Black Diamond OG

Fire OG:

OGiesel:

Tangie #5

Tangie #8

Tangie #6

Darn bro. Even more awesome harvest pics. Tangie #5 looks amazing. +++ REPS