How To Make Concentrated Cannabis Oil

I'll also add that from everything I've read so far it probably makes sense why RS doesn't promote a day vs. night regimen. He promotes pure indica and indica dominant hybrids only with one exception - depression. He does promote mixing strains when making oil to make a more varied medicine but still recommends using only indica and indica dominant. I disagree with him on this point, I very much prefer to have a sativa dominant strain for the daytime but that's just my preference; however, I do agree with mixing strains to make the oil but mostly because I never typically have enough of a single strain to make the oil with :)
 
It is all about what the application is for. There are many variables in stages of illness. Do you have to work, can you work, bed ridden, weight issues, addictions on meds, mental attitude. So many more issues come into play. I personally do not like couch lock all day. I lean a tad on the up side. Towards the evening I can tapper down with a small booster of indica for increased appetite for dinner, then another small booster 2 hours before bed. The magic with the oil is however your system works you can custom tailor your meds. I only had 2 strains for a year (except for Master Kush for 30 days for nighttime) from my first grow. Blue Dream and Harlequin. I had 2 plants of Lemon Haze but won't count that. I had to get up early and work my arse off so I could sleep at night (and with the help of smoking herb/oil). It takes time to build up to other strains. If you try to many out it will confuse you. It takes approx. 3-5 days for the old to exit your system and the new to enter. Patience is key for a true read. Having a high CBD strain mixed in a wellness dose is like adding ice cream to hot apple pie. For cancer CBD as a supplement booster is nothing short of amazing. Cannabis concentrated oil extract must be part of the 'Magical Mystery Tour". Simply amazing in all it does for medicinal purposes in so many aspects.
 
420 Motoco,

Something pulled at me today to get on 420 and do some reading and I am so glad I did. My father has prostate cancer, after having his prostate removed 3 years ago it came back. He finished 7 weeks of radiation about a month ago. He will get a PSA test a week after the holiday. A friend of mine recommended RSO so I did so without much study I made a batch.

I was concerned about dosing and was originally going to give it to him through a smoothie. I made a batch simply using 91% ISO I bought at a drug store, let it steep outside like a tea for a few days, then used the rice cooker method to burn off the alcohol(outside of course). I put 1/4 of a teaspoon in a smoothie and tried it myself. Yes I got high but wonderd if dear ole dad would be too loaded. I am thinking to myself how in the hell am I supposed to get him to a gram a day! Then I read this and now I am on a whole new mission.


I have spent the better part of the day reading this thread and the dosage thread as well. Thanks for all you do!!!

A couple of questions if I could. 1) I have not decarbed what I have yet. Can I still do this? 2) Is the 91% ISO a deal breaker?

Peace,

Any2
 
Hi Any2cards,

Glad you checked out the tutorials and studied. If you can put your concentrate in a smoothie I'm concerned. It shouldn't come off the spoon. Its not to late for a decarb and strongly recommend it to make sure all the iso is burned off. 91% has more water in it than say 99.8 % so the decarb will take somewhat longer. Sounds more like 'green dragon' you made only with iso. Do a decarb about 240 degree's. It might take a tad longer, be patient and when the oil stops moving (smooth on the surface, no bubbles) then its complete. Next time try Spirytus polish vodka (same thing as Everclear but 96 proof instead of 95 proof). Three quick rinses gets the job done and makes an excellent concentrate. If you make a boo boo its food grade and is safe if swallowed. Keep reading the post on the tutorials again and you will pick up a lot of do's and don'ts, strains and the whole nine yards. Any questions, ask away, here to help. Good think you didn't give it to pops yet. Once decarboxylated it will pass through the brain properly when dosed correctly. Keep up the knowledge to heal your pops correctly. :Namaste:
ps...91 iso is not a deal breaker, you pulled out everything you could leaving it soak that long :) decarb and it will be fine, next batch will be much better. Peace

420 Motoco

Any2cards said:
420 Motoco,

Something pulled at me today to get on 420 and do some reading and I am so glad I did. My father has prostate cancer, after having his prostate removed 3 years ago it came back. He finished 7 weeks of radiation about a month ago. He will get a PSA test a week after the holiday. A friend of mine recommended RSO so I did so without much study I made a batch.

I was concerned about dosing and was originally going to give it to him through a smoothie. I made a batch simply using 91% ISO I bought at a drug store, let it steep outside like a tea for a few days, then used the rice cooker method to burn off the alcohol(outside of course). I put 1/4 of a teaspoon in a smoothie and tried it myself. Yes I got high but wonderd if dear ole dad would be too loaded. I am thinking to myself how in the hell am I supposed to get him to a gram a day! Then I read this and now I am on a whole new mission.


I have spent the better part of the day reading this thread and the dosage thread as well. Thanks for all you do!!!

A couple of questions if I could. 1) I have not decarbed what I have yet. Can I still do this? 2) Is the 91% ISO a deal breaker?

Peace,

Any2
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Thanks cajuncelt. I understand where you coming from Bro. I would do the same Bro. Remember when we crossed paths in the forums? I wanted to run out and be your caretaker. I sincerely care for you Brother, of course all that are ill. Just been following your journey. I wish you could get the med package you need. It eats away at me Bro. Just how I'm built. You need to stay on the forums (this one) so I can continue to follow your progress. Love you Bro!
 
Hi budnoob2,

Mixed bag you got going there! I'm curious, are all using the same strain? Did you guys have a smooth ride at the start-euphoria, etc,? How long have you been dosing the oil correctly? Besides your illnesses, do you or any one of you notice anything different the oil helps? Sorry for all the questions, just taking notes. I really appreciate your input yesterday. Thank you Sir!

budnoob2 said:
Cancer, MS and Epilepsy between the 3 of us.
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Haha, bumpy ride to say the least - 1st attempt was a while back just winging it based upon RSO instructions and we could barely function so it was night time only and only on weekends did we bump things up a notch with the exception of the one not having to work. After that I forayed into making edibles for the most part and never looked back at the oil for about 6 months or so which is when I discovered these threads you created. We never had a "trusted" source but rather a "trusted" middle man who could never seem to tell us what strain but assured us it was good - which it was, predominately indica but couldn't tell the strain. Only started learning the characteristics of specific strains fairly recently too, prior to 420 all I could tell you is I had Columbia gold back in the day or MK Ultra, etc. Have been dosing correctly with unknown indica and sativa strains since late april this year and we are already noticing significant improvement for pain, inflammation, lethargy, seizure count, tumor shrinkage and blood pressure as well as overall feeling better in general. It's like the difference between night and day using tacking method vs. just using edibles or oil without tacking to us. We haven't had a non-stop supply so we have to build up tolerance to a degree each time we run out then get more, hence growing our own now. We've also used it to treat rashes and minor burns by warming with hair dryer and mixing with a little coconut oil to apply on skin.
 
Hi budnoob2,

Thank you so much for the intel! Many do not realize it but a post like yours is read around the world and helps people immensely. It instills confidence to them. It also shares with the readers what you have noticed the concentrate does healing many different things while curing the main important issue at hand. Strains are very important as you are finding out. It takes time for you and your friends to build up growing knowledge, harvesting at peak THC, mid-term, full term for your specific needs. I just made some Blackberry Kush 80/20 Indica dominate. I've never been keen with any sativa in the mix for nighttime meds. This strain grown full term surpases Master Kush (95% Indica) and turns the lights out. In fact so much so my system became unbalanced and went to the Indica side. I do not like the feel of couch lock during the day. In fact, the opposite. I like to feel motivated during the day and also your mental state/wellness feeling is much improved. Mental attitude in my opinion is a huge aid in healing. Once getting your strains down and tweaking them to how you like to feel during the day and baby sleep at night is the key to the kingdom. You already know that getting different strains in dictates a whole different ball game. No fun going to work on Indica, lol. That Blackberry would keep me nailed down somewhere. Had to end up taking 1/2 of what I normally do for night to get my system turned around. I just could not get motivated. Also a point on heavy indica-there is a fine line between feeling euphoric and the inherit down that Indica does so well. Makes a whole new meaning of muscle relaxation.

So now those who work can dose properly and do their thing? I remember when I first dosed in the a.m. and had a Dr.s appointment. Felt a little apprehensive driving there and thought to myself-get used to the feeling, healing myself is more important. Never had apprehension again. Here is what is important budnoob; when the wife and I first started using the oil and learning its magic and took notes for a year and a half we noticed a lot of people who didn't want to become euphoric did. We knew some people who wouldn't follow instructions and kept getting high and threw their oil away. We thought to ourselves this is not good. How many people will he tell that it is the same ole crap, get stoned (really stoned on the oil) if that is what your looking for and doesn't do crap medically? A safe healing process has to be learned. Hence the 'tacking' method (which I stumbled upon trying to help a friend with Parkinson's who had severe saliva issues kept getting high (had to work like two of you, and could not maintain a daytime dosing regimen). Getting folks to administer the oil correctly was just as important to us as taking the oil any old way. Every person we have helped we make sure the learn to dose correctly before they go home. Since that time not one person has gotten euphoric. This is why I try to give so much detail-things like always eat before you take the oil, snack, hydrate, everything I can think of to make the journey easy. Right now I have a stage four breast cancer since starting the oil hasn't missed a beat at work/life. By not thinking safety, as you know, you won't overdose but you can head slam and seriously get injured or worse. I often wonder how many people have been turned off by the concentrated oil by digesting only? I feel like it makes the acceptance of concentrated oil to move backwards instead of forward. I'm going to do a little research for some strain's that can be correct for all three of you. Of course it is only a guideline. I'm doing a decarb right now adjusting my daytime for a tad more up because the Blackberry is so overpowering. When adjusting your meds one has to have patience as it can take a week for the old to move out and the new to move in. Find what you guys really like and try to stick with it. A great feeling of wellness loves consistency, just ask your body. Again that you for your share, much appreciated by all!

420 Motoco





budnoob2 said:
Haha, bumpy ride to say the least - 1st attempt was a while back just winging it based upon RSO instructions and we could barely function so it was night time only and only on weekends did we bump things up a notch with the exception of the one not having to work. After that I forayed into making edibles for the most part and never looked back at the oil for about 6 months or so which is when I discovered these threads you created. We never had a "trusted" source but rather a "trusted" middle man who could never seem to tell us what strain but assured us it was good - which it was, predominately indica but couldn't tell the strain. Only started learning the characteristics of specific strains fairly recently too, prior to 420 all I could tell you is I had Columbia gold back in the day or MK Ultra, etc. Have been dosing correctly with unknown indica and sativa strains since late april this year and we are already noticing significant improvement for pain, inflammation, lethargy, seizure count, tumor shrinkage and blood pressure as well as overall feeling better in general. It's like the difference between night and day using tacking method vs. just using edibles or oil without tacking to us. We haven't had a non-stop supply so we have to build up tolerance to a degree each time we run out then get more, hence growing our own now. We've also used it to treat rashes and minor burns by warming with hair dryer and mixing with a little coconut oil to apply on skin.
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budnoob2 said:
Cancer, MS and Epilepsy between the 3 of us.
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Compassionate super ray at ya man. I just feel we are gonna get through this. Damn glad to meet ya! I wish we could all meet for a weekend somewhere. A "Cure Camp" if you will. Moto & me cranking out oil, the 3 of us doing demos, me cooking-y'all helping (I'm Cajun....you WANT me to cook lol). Be cool to swap out clones, have a Closet Growers Med Cup, Ha.
 
420 Motoco said:
Thanks cajuncelt. I understand where you coming from Bro. I would do the same Bro. Remember when we crossed paths in the forums? I wanted to run out and be your caretaker. I sincerely care for you Brother, of course all that are ill. Just been following your journey. I wish you could get the med package you need. It eats away at me Bro. Just how I'm built. You need to stay on the forums (this one) so I can continue to follow your progress. Love you Bro!
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And my wife wonders why I get on here...
I'll be on the growers threads (as I grow lol) for a LONG time. My passion is growing. But, I'll stick around here for sure. Do ya mind if I put a link to here in my sig?
HEY. just noticed it my annual anniversary. Pineapple Chunk for everyone :thanks:
 
Hahahaha! That is the spirit Brother! The cookout sounds like it would be a blast and then some. Please put a link on your sig Brother. Happy anniversary to you and your better half :). Positive attitudes and good times ahead Brother. I'm meeting so many great people at 420 Magazine, truly a blessing.

Got a patient with brain cancer 'terminal' and hooking up with him in the a.m. so getting a dosing regimen together. Be on latter in the day. T/C
 
Love me some cajun food :) I was in LA once with a co-worker that had grown up there - he took me to this little place that looked like a shack out of a 3rd world country but the food was amazing! Wish I could remember where that was exactly so I could go back. Hopefully some day soon there will no longer be a need for closet growers anywhere and every Province and State in the world will be able to have annual cups. Thanks for the Pineapple Chunk cajun, here's to having our own MMJ cup someday in the not to distant future :peace:
 
420 Motoco said:
Hahahaha! That is the spirit Brother! The cookout sounds like it would be a blast and then some. Please put a link on your sig Brother. Happy anniversary to you and your better half :). Positive attitudes and good times ahead Brother. I'm meeting so many great people at 420 Magazine, truly a blessing.

Got a patient with brain cancer 'terminal' and hooking up with him in the a.m. so getting a dosing regimen together. Be on latter in the day. T/C
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I have a question on making oil, hoping you could say yey or ney. :)

I have quite a bit of tincture made, I am now in need of the oil.

Can you convert a tincture to oil for the gum application somehow, or am I stuck with the tincture as is? Not that I won't use the tincture, but I will be making the oil shortly.

This area is all new to me, so pardon if that sounds like an odd question. :) I've got some heavy learning to do. LOL

:thanks:
 
Hi Cannafan,

Going a tad off topic first, you are an outstanding Moderator and thank you for the ton of work you do!

Depends on what your tincture is mixed with. If alcohol, yes and already decarbed. If not decarbed, decarb. You will be a quick study. Just a note; if you don't have a harvest coming soon and your in a legal state I would purchase 3/4 oz. of high end sativa hybrid and 1/4 oz of high CBD strain, mix and cook. Should produce around 4 grams (about a 4 month supply), used as a PM/wellness it will cover the spectrum for daytime use. I could go on with a list of cures/fixes, you will find out. Based off your smarts, the concentrate will become second nature in short time. Hope this helps. Your very welcome!
 
:thanks: 420 Motoco, that makes me feel very good. :)

Okay, my tincture is made with Everclear. (that stuff is expensive!) I used White Widow and Master Kush buds for it and made it in the Magic Butter Machine.

I am in a legal state but growing my own.

I will be harvesting within a week or so:

DinaFem Fruit Auto:

Type: ruderalis/indica/sativa
THC: Medium (6% - 12%)
CBD: High

Dinafem Royal Haze:

I could not find any decent details on this strain yet, but here's what I found as a short description. (freebie seeds)

The presence of THCV, a compound that makes the stimulant effect of THC stronger, and the absence of CBD are key factors to the length of the effect. The effect is true sativa and it produces like crazy. (So far I'm not impressed with how much it is producing)

I also have several Master Kush x White Widow plants of my own cross breeding (1st attempt). I have not tried it, it isn't quite ready for harvest.

Thanks for the reply, I am taking notes and will be reading this thread regularly I'm sure.

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Hi Cannafan,

Nice, you already got a high CBD strain-best results is full term. Lowers the THC but gains in CBD. So apparently there is no intel on this strain (DinaFem Royal Haze. Use a 60x pocket micro scope (about 12 bucks if you don't have one) and follow the trichomes as an indicator when to harvest . The one I like for ease of readability is only 40x, for me this one is more easy to use than say a mini-carlson (about 16.00-also they make a 100x for the same price. I haven't tried one because for me a 100x is too much).

Master Kush is a fav of mine for nighttime meds. White Widow is a great strain also, so crossed I would think it would be excellent. I would recommend to take your cbd strain and go full term for max cbd's (check with the growers on the flowering time if you don't know, but it seems most high cbd strains are 12 weeks flower time). I'm not sure on the Dinafem Royal Haze (I'll try to do some research on that one also). I would assume the Master Kush x White Widow is going to be your high THC strain? Here is the % your looking for.
CBD strain. 5-10 % CBD-5-10 % THC (any thing higher is a bonus-full term)
THC strain. 20 % + (higher the better) main strain for daily dosing regimen
Indica. highest % indica you can get for sleep. Not concerned with THC, grow full term for max CBD and max couch lock of the inherit down that Indica offers.

Hope this helps.


Cannafan said:
:thanks: 420 Motoco, that makes me feel very good. :)

Okay, my tincture is made with Everclear. (that stuff is expensive!) I used White Widow and Master Kush buds for it and made it in the Magic Butter Machine.

I am in a legal state but growing my own.

I will be harvesting within a week or so:

DinaFem Fruit Auto:

Type: ruderalis/indica/sativa
THC: Medium (6% - 12%)
CBD: High

Dinafem Royal Haze:

I could not find any decent details on this strain yet, but here's what I found as a short description. (freebie seeds)

The presence of THCV, a compound that makes the stimulant effect of THC stronger, and the absence of CBD are key factors to the length of the effect. The effect is true sativa and it produces like crazy. (So far I'm not impressed with how much it is producing)

I also have several Master Kush x White Widow plants of my own cross breeding (1st attempt). I have not tried it, it isn't quite ready for harvest.

Thanks for the reply, I am taking notes and will be reading this thread regularly I'm sure.

:circle-of-love:
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Hi Brother,

I wanted to ask, I was interested in a jewelers loupe ( a 40x). I would think the ease of use would be excellent (thoughts?). I have a 60x100 times Carson also (wish they had a single AAA instead of the button batteries).

Thank you



KingJohnC said:
I own a 30x Jewelers loupe, a 60x-100x Carson Optical MicroMax LED Microscope and a a 25X-200X Magnifier USB Digital Microscope.

Here is a link for the Carson Optical MicroMax LED Microscope

https://www.growitbest.com carson optical micromax microscope
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