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How to grow in Coco: Feed schedule
Leroy Brown
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Hi cult. What do you think of house and garden coco a and b base nutes mate? Other options are a few local brands or canna but i dont want to use canna after reading your opinion on it. Also ive been using great white a few yeara but cant get carboload here. Is there anything else i can use?
Hey cult a friend of ours is seeing a def two weeks in coco
I think your guess would be a better educated guess then mine . Mind taking a look to ease buddy’s stresses
Thanks pal
Cultivator Disciple - Coco - Barney's Blue Cheese
I think your guess would be a better educated guess then mine . Mind taking a look to ease buddy’s stresses
Thanks pal
Cultivator Disciple - Coco - Barney's Blue Cheese
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Yeah h&g isnt bad. Def better than canna. Carboload is just a fancy bottle with sugar water in. Buy a jar of black molasses for couple quid and mix a tablespoon with cup of warm water then add to nute mix once a week or 2 weeks. Just give the goodies in the rhizosphere a boost.
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Everyone my new Podcast will broadcast on Sunday and be available on itunes, soundcloud and youtube. It will be called 'igrowcoco' please feel free to listen in. And check me out in instagram too cultivator420. Peace.
Derbybud
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Do you have a time on Sunday?
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not yet mate but I will post on fri on Saturday here.
What’s the coco topic?
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You will have to tune in to find out.
Lol ok fair enough!
SLHLover
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nice one! looking forward to checking out your podcast
Leroy Brown
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Thanks heaps for the reply mate. Looking forward to the podcast
See what I can do brotha
SLHLover
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Hi Cultivator
I have been following your feed schedule (except with GHE nutes) and am now on day 49 flowering of 10 week strains. I can't get plagron/buddha (week 8 of your schedule) etc here so will be using GHE's Ripen + Cal-mag for 7-10 days then flushing for a further 7-12 days. The EC on your feed schedule for week 8 adds up to 4.1 ec. I usually give ripen for 10 days at approx 2.0-2.2 ec (and that starts to burn them but it's ok as it's near the end). I am very nervous at bumping up the ec soo high. Do you have any words of reassurance for me?
Should I also be using the ripen and the GHE Bloom feed (equivalent of Ionic Coco Bloom minus the N. It has a NPK 0-5-4) or just the ripen + cal-mag for the week before flush?
P.S. As you may know, GHE do a 3 part grow, micro, bloom, feed. For the last 3 weeks I have not given the grow part as the plant seems to have more than enough N. The leaves were very very dark (almost to the point of N toxicity - without the clawing) and that's why I decided to stop. The plants look great now but am I making a mistake in cutting out the grow part? I notice ionic coco bloom has NPK 1.5-1.4-3.1 so am wondering if I should still be putting the grow feed in with the nutes...even though the leaves are still a deep, deep green after 2 weeks of not giving it any N...
I have been following your feed schedule (except with GHE nutes) and am now on day 49 flowering of 10 week strains. I can't get plagron/buddha (week 8 of your schedule) etc here so will be using GHE's Ripen + Cal-mag for 7-10 days then flushing for a further 7-12 days. The EC on your feed schedule for week 8 adds up to 4.1 ec. I usually give ripen for 10 days at approx 2.0-2.2 ec (and that starts to burn them but it's ok as it's near the end). I am very nervous at bumping up the ec soo high. Do you have any words of reassurance for me?
Should I also be using the ripen and the GHE Bloom feed (equivalent of Ionic Coco Bloom minus the N. It has a NPK 0-5-4) or just the ripen + cal-mag for the week before flush?
P.S. As you may know, GHE do a 3 part grow, micro, bloom, feed. For the last 3 weeks I have not given the grow part as the plant seems to have more than enough N. The leaves were very very dark (almost to the point of N toxicity - without the clawing) and that's why I decided to stop. The plants look great now but am I making a mistake in cutting out the grow part? I notice ionic coco bloom has NPK 1.5-1.4-3.1 so am wondering if I should still be putting the grow feed in with the nutes...even though the leaves are still a deep, deep green after 2 weeks of not giving it any N...
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From your question it seems you are reading my schedule wrong. My feeds rarely go above 2.0-2.2ec. the values I give are increments that the feeds go up so example would be....
ionic bloom 1.5ec
p/k 1.7ec
metaboost 1.9ec
so in other words the final ec will be 1.9ec and not all those values added up together if that makes sense?
Im wondering if you have been feeding wrong all the way through? Although P and K are in higher demand in flower the plants still need some N. Think of it like a human diet. The 3 macro nutrients are fat, protein, carbohydrate. You should never have a diet that eliminates 1 of those elements completely as you will def get sick. The same goes for plant macro nutrients or NPK, you should never remove 1 completely. You also shouldn't be adding calmag at the end of flower. Theres different thoughts on this but id stop using calmag end week 2 or 3 of flower for def under hps light and I would only use very small amounts in flower under LED. The calmag is likely what has the plants such a dark green.
When you are learning its far far better to keep feed as basic as possible. Use a 1 or 2 part base nutrient until you are comfortable. Its so much easier and to be honest even though I use 3part for veg I feed in equal amounts. Just try keep it to a base nute and pk even if you are struggling. Light and air flow are way more important than nutes so focus on getting that nailed. A perfect room will produce great flowers with basic feed but a room that isn't optimal won't produce good flowers no matter what feed you give, if that makes sense?
ionic bloom 1.5ec
p/k 1.7ec
metaboost 1.9ec
so in other words the final ec will be 1.9ec and not all those values added up together if that makes sense?
Im wondering if you have been feeding wrong all the way through? Although P and K are in higher demand in flower the plants still need some N. Think of it like a human diet. The 3 macro nutrients are fat, protein, carbohydrate. You should never have a diet that eliminates 1 of those elements completely as you will def get sick. The same goes for plant macro nutrients or NPK, you should never remove 1 completely. You also shouldn't be adding calmag at the end of flower. Theres different thoughts on this but id stop using calmag end week 2 or 3 of flower for def under hps light and I would only use very small amounts in flower under LED. The calmag is likely what has the plants such a dark green.
When you are learning its far far better to keep feed as basic as possible. Use a 1 or 2 part base nutrient until you are comfortable. Its so much easier and to be honest even though I use 3part for veg I feed in equal amounts. Just try keep it to a base nute and pk even if you are struggling. Light and air flow are way more important than nutes so focus on getting that nailed. A perfect room will produce great flowers with basic feed but a room that isn't optimal won't produce good flowers no matter what feed you give, if that makes sense?
That’s exactly what I tell people, environment is #1 and light is #2 and nutrients are #3 in terms of importance.
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id put light at number 1 but either way light and environment are mega important. so you can skimp on nutes but buy best equipment you can afford.
My lights are really overkill that’s why environment is my big concern. That tends to be trickier for me to dial in.
Cultivator Disciple
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Hi Cult ! Can you check your PM please. By the way what did you think of the book ? Remember that I didnt scan the pages with advertisements and there are about 20 of them. That's super important because that's going to be a big revenue as well.
SLHLover
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Doh! I was feeding wrong all the way through. Feel like a right pratt now...am I the only one who misunderstood this? Having said that, even with the v high EC the plants seem to be thriving (apart from the very dark leaves, the girls are displaying great bud development with lots of trichs). I will now feed as you meant it (i.e. not values for each product but the total EC).
I grow with LEDs and notice the plants need a lot of Cal-Mag. I also used to give Cal-Mag only up until the stretch was finished but according to your schedule you seem to be using it until week 8 (or have I misunderstood this too?). Please could you clarify this:
WEEK 8
CalMag 0.3ec (150ppm)
Ionic Coco Bloom 1.8ec (900ppm)
Plagron Green Sensation 2.0ec (1000ppm) (can use Buddhas tree PK and metaboost as in week 6)
Thanking you for sharing your invaluable advice and experience - not to mention the time you dedicate to helping people out.