How I perform low stress training on my plants: Lots of pics!

Greetings all! I've had members ask about how I do my LST (low stress training) on my plants so I thought I would do a pictorial on it. My pics are of two different plants but don't let that confuse you. It's just easier to demonstrate that way.

Let's discuss the theory behind LST for a minute. Cannabis plants grow up to the sun. They have a top (apical) cola and side branching. Most of the growth hormones (auxins) go to that apical cola, which is why an untrained plant often has a beautiful huge bud on top and then progressively smaller buds as you head toward the soil. Topping a plant tells the plant that there is no longer an apical cola (damage alert!!!) so it needs to send the auxins to other branches to assure its chances to pass on its genetics. You then end up with two tops from that one.

That's great for photo plants which you can grow as big as you want them to be before you flip them, but autos are on an internal clock. Now many growers top their autos and get great results. I don't. I try to stress autos as little as possible so I do LST.

LST is a method for tricking the plant into thinking it no longer has an apical cola without actually removing it. The method involves pulling the top down flat so that it's not higher than the rest of the plant. The plant still thinks it's lost its apical cola and begins to send the growth hormones to the rest of the branches, but there is no recovery time as there is with topping because nothing has been cut.

As each of the lower branches grows in response, it gets tied down toward the outside of the pot, allowing light and air to get to the rest of the plant, and forcing the plant to continue to evenly spread the auxins.

Let's look at some pics!

I used to start bending the plant when it was much younger. Now I wait until the stem will be close to even with the top edge of the pot after it's bent. This was my Blueberry Auto from last summer.

You can see that I used a rock to hold the stem in place as I bent it. It's important that the base of the stem be upright so you don't put stress on the stem/root connection. Now I use a rock as well as a tie holding the stem in the opposite direction to the bend. This is my current Blue Treacle:

Let's watch the progress of the Blueberry Auto as it goes from the first pic to full buddage!

You can see how I have begun to take the side branching and lay it out flat as well - away from any other growth - using the sticks and twist ties. Flattening each branch forces the plant to spread the auxins equally:

Once the branches outgrow the internal size of the pot, I tie the branches to the edge:

Once they get this far into flower there is no more to be done except watch them grow! I do not untie them until I harvest the plant.

Here is the Blueberry getting close to the end. Can you spot the apical cola? This produced over 4 ounces of dried buds. Not too shabby!

Now let's look at an auto I have currently going into the earliest stages of flower. This one is a Blue Treacle, shown in the second pic with the white wire holding the stem in place opposite the bend. Here is a top view:

And here it is from the side. You can see how flat the top is:

This plant thinks there is no apical cola and is trying its damnedest to develop a new one. Not going to let that happen! I want each cola to be the same size in the end, similar to the last Blueberry pic.

Time for a closer look at the restraints!




My main stem no longer has any room for me to get a pipe cleaner in between the bud sites. No matter! I just grabbed a top fan and tied that down!

And here you can see some of the exposed lower sites that get full light and are close to the same height as the rest of the stem...more hormones!

That's the way I do it. Post questions or comments! :cool:

I'll update this thread when the buds develop and we can see if they're as even as the Blueberry was!
Hi Shed, my two photoperiod plants are 4 weeks old. I have tied down the apical and am spreading the branches out laterally in their 5 L / 1 Gal pots. The apical on both plants is growing very short internodes and bud sites are literally on top of one another. What should I do if anything please? Also, how long do you think I need to wait before up-potting them? I ask this with the root ball in mind. I only just up-potted on 21 June, 2 weeks ago. They seem to be getting too big for their pots but I am concerned that the roots don't agree.
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I've been using some plastic benders the last few grows and they seem to do a good job.

 
Hi Shed, my two photoperiod plants are 4 weeks old. I have tied down the apical and am spreading the branches out laterally in their 5 L / 1 Gal pots. The apical on both plants is growing very short internodes and bud sites are literally on top of one another. What should I do if anything please? Also, how long do you think I need to wait before up-potting them? I ask this with the root ball in mind. I only just up-potted on 21 June, 2 weeks ago. They seem to be getting too big for their pots but I am concerned that the roots don't agree.
Once you upcan you'll have more room to spread things out, but I don't recommend you transplant until the plant tells you it's ready by how quickly it's drinking.
I've been using some plastic benders the last few grows and they seem to do a good job.
Thanks Hash Hound, and great shape on that plant!
 
Once you upcan you'll have more room to spread things out, but I don't recommend you transplant until the plant tells you it's ready by how quickly it's drinking.
Thank you Shed. I am worried about the internodes on the mains. There is no space between them. It's like they are stunted or something. Is that possible, or will they stretch out in time?
 
I find that that is genetic more than anything. Sometimes you get a phenotype that looks like a head of lettuce!
they both do a bit lol! thanks ok
 
When it comes to cleaning the girls up before flower,
How far up the main trunk do you go?
I guess what I’m asking is, the lower immature branches are easy but what about up top if they’re lagging behind?
That kind of trimming wouldn't have been covered in this thread, but your timing is good since I just trimmed up my two summer grow plants this week (around 90 days above ground).

Purple Urkle before:

After:

Trainwreck from @Weed Seeds Express before:

After:

I usually take everything off the bottom third, and above that I take the weak or short branches but leave the adjoining fans. it takes longer to do but the plant will use those fans later in flower so it's best to keep them around.

Top branches that are lagging might stay until post-stretch to see how they turned out.

As a disclaimer, my pre-flip (and post stretch) thinning isn't to produce the highest yields, just the least amount of larf. I'm not short on meds and I hate trimming larf! I'd rather have big top flowers and very little underneath.

By the way, you've got some big beauties going... :welldone:
 
Understood re: lower 1/3, and leaving healthy fans for useable storage.
Also understood in regards to watching and waiting on the uppers trying to catch up.

I oopsey-cropped 2 that I started early and were already over 2 feet, so they are pretty fugly and why I decided to ask you.

I appreciate your input and will wait for the newer stems up top and see what they do once entering flower, which isn’t that far away but lots of time to ponder 😁

Thank you
 
Greetings all! I've had members ask about how I do my LST (low stress training) on my plants so I thought I would do a pictorial on it. My pics are of two different plants but don't let that confuse you. It's just easier to demonstrate that way.

Let's discuss the theory behind LST for a minute. Cannabis plants grow up to the sun. They have a top (apical) cola and side branching. Most of the growth hormones (auxins) go to that apical cola, which is why an untrained plant often has a beautiful huge bud on top and then progressively smaller buds as you head toward the soil. Topping a plant tells the plant that there is no longer an apical cola (damage alert!!!) so it needs to send the auxins to other branches to assure its chances to pass on its genetics. You then end up with two tops from that one.

That's great for photo plants which you can grow as big as you want them to be before you flip them, but autos are on an internal clock. Now many growers top their autos and get great results. I don't. I try to stress autos as little as possible so I do LST.

LST is a method for tricking the plant into thinking it no longer has an apical cola without actually removing it. The method involves pulling the top down flat so that it's not higher than the rest of the plant. The plant still thinks it's lost its apical cola and begins to send the growth hormones to the rest of the branches, but there is no recovery time as there is with topping because nothing has been cut.

As each of the lower branches grows in response, it gets tied down toward the outside of the pot, allowing light and air to get to the rest of the plant, and forcing the plant to continue to evenly spread the auxins.

Let's look at some pics!

I used to start bending the plant when it was much younger. Now I wait until the stem will be close to even with the top edge of the pot after it's bent. This was my Blueberry Auto from last summer.

You can see that I used a rock to hold the stem in place as I bent it. It's important that the base of the stem be upright so you don't put stress on the stem/root connection. Now I use a rock as well as a tie holding the stem in the opposite direction to the bend. This is my current Blue Treacle:

Let's watch the progress of the Blueberry Auto as it goes from the first pic to full buddage!

You can see how I have begun to take the side branching and lay it out flat as well - away from any other growth - using the sticks and twist ties. Flattening each branch forces the plant to spread the auxins equally:

Once the branches outgrow the internal size of the pot, I tie the branches to the edge:

Once they get this far into flower there is no more to be done except watch them grow! I do not untie them until I harvest the plant.

Here is the Blueberry getting close to the end. Can you spot the apical cola? This produced over 4 ounces of dried buds. Not too shabby!

Now let's look at an auto I have currently going into the earliest stages of flower. This one is a Blue Treacle, shown in the second pic with the white wire holding the stem in place opposite the bend. Here is a top view:

And here it is from the side. You can see how flat the top is:

This plant thinks there is no apical cola and is trying its damnedest to develop a new one. Not going to let that happen! I want each cola to be the same size in the end, similar to the last Blueberry pic.

Time for a closer look at the restraints!




My main stem no longer has any room for me to get a pipe cleaner in between the bud sites. No matter! I just grabbed a top fan and tied that down!

And here you can see some of the exposed lower sites that get full light and are close to the same height as the rest of the stem...more hormones!

That's the way I do it. Post questions or comments! :cool:

I'll update this thread when the buds develop and we can see if they're as even as the Blueberry was!
Cool I think I get it. Good teachers make it easy to understand.
 
Greetings all! I've had members ask about how I do my LST (low stress training) on my plants so I thought I would do a pictorial on it. My pics are of two different plants but don't let that confuse you. It's just easier to demonstrate that way.

Let's discuss the theory behind LST for a minute. Cannabis plants grow up to the sun. They have a top (apical) cola and side branching. Most of the growth hormones (auxins) go to that apical cola, which is why an untrained plant often has a beautiful huge bud on top and then progressively smaller buds as you head toward the soil. Topping a plant tells the plant that there is no longer an apical cola (damage alert!!!) so it needs to send the auxins to other branches to assure its chances to pass on its genetics. You then end up with two tops from that one.

That's great for photo plants which you can grow as big as you want them to be before you flip them, but autos are on an internal clock. Now many growers top their autos and get great results. I don't. I try to stress autos as little as possible so I do LST.

LST is a method for tricking the plant into thinking it no longer has an apical cola without actually removing it. The method involves pulling the top down flat so that it's not higher than the rest of the plant. The plant still thinks it's lost its apical cola and begins to send the growth hormones to the rest of the branches, but there is no recovery time as there is with topping because nothing has been cut.

As each of the lower branches grows in response, it gets tied down toward the outside of the pot, allowing light and air to get to the rest of the plant, and forcing the plant to continue to evenly spread the auxins.

Let's look at some pics!

I used to start bending the plant when it was much younger. Now I wait until the stem will be close to even with the top edge of the pot after it's bent. This was my Blueberry Auto from last summer.

You can see that I used a rock to hold the stem in place as I bent it. It's important that the base of the stem be upright so you don't put stress on the stem/root connection. Now I use a rock as well as a tie holding the stem in the opposite direction to the bend. This is my current Blue Treacle:

Let's watch the progress of the Blueberry Auto as it goes from the first pic to full buddage!

You can see how I have begun to take the side branching and lay it out flat as well - away from any other growth - using the sticks and twist ties. Flattening each branch forces the plant to spread the auxins equally:

Once the branches outgrow the internal size of the pot, I tie the branches to the edge:

Once they get this far into flower there is no more to be done except watch them grow! I do not untie them until I harvest the plant.

Here is the Blueberry getting close to the end. Can you spot the apical cola? This produced over 4 ounces of dried buds. Not too shabby!

Now let's look at an auto I have currently going into the earliest stages of flower. This one is a Blue Treacle, shown in the second pic with the white wire holding the stem in place opposite the bend. Here is a top view:

And here it is from the side. You can see how flat the top is:

This plant thinks there is no apical cola and is trying its damnedest to develop a new one. Not going to let that happen! I want each cola to be the same size in the end, similar to the last Blueberry pic.

Time for a closer look at the restraints!




My main stem no longer has any room for me to get a pipe cleaner in between the bud sites. No matter! I just grabbed a top fan and tied that down!

And here you can see some of the exposed lower sites that get full light and are close to the same height as the rest of the stem...more hormones!

That's the way I do it. Post questions or comments! :cool:

I'll update this thread when the buds develop and we can see if they're as even as the Blueberry was!
Awesome write up, exactly how I do mine, I start once they hit the 5th node though, but in the end that’s how I want mine to look. Had a few explede, new tops rise up daily when ya put in the work on them these are all my autos in my current run 4 different strains right around 35 days old half are showing preflowers a few I have up to 27 tops on at least 7-8 tie backs on each one minimum

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Awesome write up, exactly how I do mine, I start once they hit the 5th node though, but in the end that’s how I want mine to look. Had a few explede, new tops rise up daily when ya put in the work on them these are all my autos in my current run 4 different strains right around 35 days old half are showing preflowers a few I have up to 27 tops on at least 7-8 tie backs on each one minimum
Looking great Mikedin!
 
Awesome write up, exactly how I do mine, I start once they hit the 5th node though, but in the end that’s how I want mine to look. Had a few explede, new tops rise up daily when ya put in the work on them these are all my autos in my current run 4 different strains right around 35 days old half are showing preflowers a few I have up to 27 tops on at least 7-8 tie backs on each one minimum

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Beautiful girls Mike!!

NTH
 
I’m pretty new to this. How did I do? Any feedback will be much appreciated. I felt like I was hurting her! I’ve done LST before but last time I waited too long. They seemed to be the right size this time.
Hi Will! You did pretty well for a newbie, but I do have a few suggestions.

The main suggestion is to move that green support wire above the first true leaf. That will move the bend higher (which means you will probably need to add some slack to the metal U to prevent breakage. Ideally you want to be pulling the top-most growth down rather than where that U is now.

If you look at the current green wire placement you can see that you will never be able to get the top of the plant lower than the lower nodes, which is the goal of LST. By raising the wire above the first node, the bend will actually start above the second node, which will give you room to slowly get the top even or below it.

You can kinda see what I did like that here.

I hope that's clear! Out of curiosity, is this a photo or an auto?
 
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