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Thank you, Baron. Very gracious of you.
Homer's Legal 4-Plant Max Perpetual Minimalist Garden In Ontario
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Congratulations on the photo of the month. 
Congrats Homer on Photo of the Month! Nicely done!!
Homer...nice job on photo of the month.
Hey Homer! Congrats on the PotM win. I’m sure this is just one of many for you!
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Congratulations on the photo of the month.
Thanks, guys; much appreciated. I feel lucky because there were a lot of nice pics out there.
Great job on the PotM, Homer. The first of many I would think. 
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Gonna have to get that "minimalist" title change. With the mega and racking up wins wnd prizes, i think you moved well out of minimalist.
Congrats man. Your garden has come a long way. I remember reading through a lot of this one several months ago. Thanks for putting yourself out there and doing a journal.
Congrats man. Your garden has come a long way. I remember reading through a lot of this one several months ago. Thanks for putting yourself out there and doing a journal.
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To recap, I have been curious how efficient the often recommended five-minute soak in the freezer method is for extracting resin from cannabis. So I have one sample that I soaked for five minutes in the freezer at 2.8°F, the second I soaked for one hour at 75°, the third I soaked for one day at 75°F and the final one I have not included because it is not finished evaporating I soaked for one week at 75°F. From the results I have though I don’t think the fourth sample will vary from the second and third so it’s really probably moot.
My cannabis test samples were one-half ounce of Northern Lights that have been curing for about four months and was slightly under 60% moisture content that was then decarbed at 235° for two hours and each test sample was soaked in 4 ounces isopropyl alcohol.
The five-minute freezer soak recovered 2.05 g of resin or 14% of the cannabis by weight which was frankly more than I expected. The one hour soak at 75°F gave 2.27 g or 16.2% which is about 10.7% more yield than from the five-minute soak at 2.8°F. So there is much less difference than I thought there would be so people cold-soaking for less time to have the preferred Golden extract really aren’t losing that much but taking mine orally I think I will be soaking longer but I think I will do it in the freezer because I think the difference is probably owed to the duration and not the temperature so that way I will have less chlorophyll may be.
The one day soak result is kind of mystifying; I assumed there would be slightly more or the same extraction as the one hour soak at the same temperature but it was 2.8% less. I think the natural conclusion is I mixed them up but with my careful labeling, I am 99.99% sure these are the correct results so my only explanation is that there must have been a little variation in the bud. Anybody that wants to insist Homer screwed up I won’t argue.
So in conclusion the five-minute soak at 2.8°F seems pretty darn good and you won’t lose much if you stick with that to avoid chlorophyll but taking mine orally I’m going to experiment with the freezer method and longer soak times. I didn’t run my alcohol extract through a coffee filter either but I honestly cannot see any difference in color intensity or shade so I really don’t think these longer soaks aren't giving much more chlorophyll. Your mileage may vary.
One thing I forgot to mention was those percentages are kind of arbitrary because it is quite dependent on the moisture content of the bud. After I decarbed the 14 g test samples they only weighed 11 g because the moisture had been baked out of them so using the dry weight the first sample instead of 14.6% would have been 18.6% in the second sample instead of 16.2% would have been 20.6%. I don't know what moisture of bud is usually used when these numbers are quoted but I wouldn't be surprised if they went by dry weights just to be more impressive.
My cannabis test samples were one-half ounce of Northern Lights that have been curing for about four months and was slightly under 60% moisture content that was then decarbed at 235° for two hours and each test sample was soaked in 4 ounces isopropyl alcohol.
The five-minute freezer soak recovered 2.05 g of resin or 14% of the cannabis by weight which was frankly more than I expected. The one hour soak at 75°F gave 2.27 g or 16.2% which is about 10.7% more yield than from the five-minute soak at 2.8°F. So there is much less difference than I thought there would be so people cold-soaking for less time to have the preferred Golden extract really aren’t losing that much but taking mine orally I think I will be soaking longer but I think I will do it in the freezer because I think the difference is probably owed to the duration and not the temperature so that way I will have less chlorophyll may be.
The one day soak result is kind of mystifying; I assumed there would be slightly more or the same extraction as the one hour soak at the same temperature but it was 2.8% less. I think the natural conclusion is I mixed them up but with my careful labeling, I am 99.99% sure these are the correct results so my only explanation is that there must have been a little variation in the bud. Anybody that wants to insist Homer screwed up I won’t argue.
So in conclusion the five-minute soak at 2.8°F seems pretty darn good and you won’t lose much if you stick with that to avoid chlorophyll but taking mine orally I’m going to experiment with the freezer method and longer soak times. I didn’t run my alcohol extract through a coffee filter either but I honestly cannot see any difference in color intensity or shade so I really don’t think these longer soaks aren't giving much more chlorophyll. Your mileage may vary.
One thing I forgot to mention was those percentages are kind of arbitrary because it is quite dependent on the moisture content of the bud. After I decarbed the 14 g test samples they only weighed 11 g because the moisture had been baked out of them so using the dry weight the first sample instead of 14.6% would have been 18.6% in the second sample instead of 16.2% would have been 20.6%. I don't know what moisture of bud is usually used when these numbers are quoted but I wouldn't be surprised if they went by dry weights just to be more impressive.
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Great job on the PotM, Homer. The first of many I would think.
Thank you, bluenoserjoe. I can only hope, LOL.
Gonna have to get that "minimalist" title change. With the mega and racking up wins wnd prizes, i think you moved well out of minimalist.
Congrats man. Your garden has come a long way. I remember reading through a lot of this one several months ago. Thanks for putting yourself out there and doing a journal.
Thank you, Botanical Bondage. A few tokens of acknowledgement will not change my minimalist approach, my friend. I still enjoy growing weed the cheapest easiest way possible. I'm sure my success is short-lived but my ways will endure. Glad to do my Journal and I enjoyed quite a bit.
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You can send me that nextlight mega then.
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Since it was a prize I don't think that it tarnishes my minimalist status; agreed to disagree.
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Im just yankin yer crankSince it was a prize I don't think that it tarnishes my minimalist status; agreed to disagree.
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Glad to hear it because I could never part with my MegaLight.
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I think we have to call them minmalist roots. Haha
Nice job on the extraction comparison. They results are pretty close. Pretty much what I would of expected from my oil making days. The cold extraction is the cleanest and the longer they sit and the warmer it is the more impurities it picks up. the cold rinse You could evaporate that iso with a little heat and have some tasty oil to smoke. If you did that with the others it would not be as tasty. Great job Homer!
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Thanks, oldsmokey. Yes, I do agree with you that the shorter/colder soak would most likely be the purest but because I consume my resin orally instead of smoking it the waxes and chlorophyll are not really pertinent to me since I can’t taste them.
I only filtered with an 80 µm filter instead of coffee filters also but surprisingly the cold sample didn’t seem any lighter in color than the longer soaks. I’m sure there is a difference but not nearly as much as I expected. I think my next experiment will be to do four samples all with the freezer method with varying times five minutes and longer and coffee filtering.
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The more I see of my Gorilla Glue the more I like this strain. Besides being a good healthy vibrant easily trained Indica shaped plant miraculously I don't seem to have any allergic reaction to it. When I was growing my Northern lights especially but most strains less so I had varying degrees of allergic reaction but I don't even notice the Gorilla Glue. It could be just a happy coincidence with outdoor pollen being low but I doubt it.
Also, I was researching the three strains that gorilla glue is derived from and for two are 60% Sativa and the last one is 70% which is odd because it has such an Indica shape but I was glad to read that because I have tons of Northern Lights so some Sativa at this point would be welcome.
Also, I was researching the three strains that gorilla glue is derived from and for two are 60% Sativa and the last one is 70% which is odd because it has such an Indica shape but I was glad to read that because I have tons of Northern Lights so some Sativa at this point would be welcome.
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My Bruce Banner had such huge inter-nodal distances on the lower main branch when it was young and reading it could be up to 2 m tall indoors I was afraid this thing was going to be a real challenge to keep short but miraculously the four secondary branches have pretty short internodal distances so it looks like it will hopefully have a nice squat structure. That's a relief! Growing cannabis really is like a box of chocolates; you never know what you will get.
I photographed Bruce in monochrome because using blurples in veg doesn't photograph so well when I try to fill in the lower branches with LED lights because they are such different temperatures. I really should get a veg light with white LEDs like with my MegaLight because with that it is so simple to photograph with it. Below is what I am talking about.
I photographed Bruce in monochrome because using blurples in veg doesn't photograph so well when I try to fill in the lower branches with LED lights because they are such different temperatures. I really should get a veg light with white LEDs like with my MegaLight because with that it is so simple to photograph with it. Below is what I am talking about.
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Last week while trying out a new straightening method at the end of heat treating during the tempering stage my knife developed a minor flaw. It may not be evident to the untrained eye but being a consummate professional I won't be finishing it because of my high standards. 
