Hempy Headquarters

[SweetSue]

Well...my little hempies are limping along. I'm running them with Osmocote + doing the feeding. My attempt at boosting them a little resulted in some burned leaves or it could be a light burn of sorts. Our cool weather just arrived and I ran the LED on full spectrum on a couple days recently taking them into higher temps. Oh well. Smaller crop but my pots are really small to begin with.

Blue Dreams Flip + 50

and a comparison shot of 1 gallon hempy and soil

Ok, to my eye that soil plant is definately outperforming, but not by all that much. The proof is in the comparison in euphoric effect though, is it not? They sure are lovely Jim. Smaller crop caused by stress usually results in more potent essential oils as the plant does what she can to try to survive the threat. You may be pleasantly surprised at their offerings.

 

[Lazarus13]

Make sure that the coco you have is pre-buffered. I used cheapo compressed bricks of it that i use in my flower beds to add some aeration and moisture retention to the poopy soil at our apt complex. I rinsed it well but did not know that it needed anything else. I know that some of the better varieties are already treated. Apparently coco holds on to Ca and Mg because of a low cation exchange or some sciency stuff like that. I have since learned it needs to be saturated with calmag and 1/4 strength nutes. At least thats what i ve read. It's hard to overwater and can be fed everyday with no ill effects, in my experience, but i water every 2-3 days to save on nutes.
If there are any specific questions you have about it i will do my best to answer from my trial experience but if you want good info pm ledrf. Hes a coco pro as well as some other on here.
That being said, i am definitely liking perlite better. No problems so far with my GSC. I may try coco again since i have a butt ton in bags from another hempy that failed. The leaves got that crispy burn from Mg and Ca deficiency and stunted at like 5 inches tall. Im pissed cuz it was my only lsd auto from fast buds and i really wanted to grow that. Its such a pretty color and heard its wow smoke.

 

[Radogast]

I went with a coco perlite mix for root development. A lot of journals I read before I started didn't have a root system I admired. Just some spaghetti strings reaching to the res. Sure maybe that's all the plant "needs" and the results were by no means disappointing, but why settle when the limits can be pushed? I also don't grow by seedlings in hempy for the purpose of root development. I guess the way I see it is the more dense and horizontal I can get my root mass the more tendrils that's can grow into the res.

Granted I have no evidence of this and won't until my grow is complete. Nor do I have a pure perlite grow to compare to. But I can say this. Mixing in coco really lowers the cost of the set up. I know... haha. Hempy isn't expensive, but my 3 gallons aren't filled with 1 12 dollar bag of perlite alone and for 15 bucks I got a 20 or 30 gallon container of coco

Earlier this month, I paid $35 for a 4 cubic ft, (29 gallon) bag delivered by the rainforest folks to my front door. 2 years ago I paid about the same price at a store for larger bags (almost 6 feet tall). I would never pay the prices I see for the small bags.

 

[Blazinjones]

high hempy folks hope the grows are doing great i just had a question since im using remo nutes and they say they can be used for soil and hydro i was wanting to try some of it in soil and see if it works better then my mgo nutes i use for some of my soil girls but what im wondering is since soil and hydro ph levels are so different could i mix up a batch for my hempy girls ph it to 5.5 then with the rest just use my ph up and set it to like 7.0 isnt that what soil ph should be set to?? and use that to feed my soil girl i wana try the remo nutes with or will i need to make a seperate batch for the soil girl??

 

[TheMadDabber]

high hempy folks hope the grows are doing great i just had a question since im using remo nutes and they say they can be used for soil and hydro i was wanting to try some of it in soil and see if it works better then my mgo nutes i use for some of my soil girls but what im wondering is since soil and hydro ph levels are so different could i mix up a batch for my hempy girls ph it to 5.5 then with the rest just use my ph up and set it to like 7.0 isnt that what soil ph should be set to?? and use that to feed my soil girl i wana try the remo nutes with or will i need to make a seperate batch for the soil girl??

Hey Jones. I believe 6.5 is ideal for soil but between 6 and 7 in general

 

[Lazarus13]

Does anyone check their runoff from perlite hempys? Is it important? I put my nutrient mix in at like 5.8 and it ends up coming out at around 6.1-6.2. Not certain if this is pertinent or if I'm worrying over a useless number. Using ANs 3 part pH perfect and some GO CalMg i had, btw. I can't afford for this grow to go south. My last dwc got some root issues and came in disappointingly low in weight. Im out of smokable material and have been keeping my pain and anxiety in check with Green Dragon. I miss smoking though. .

 

[Blazinjones]

Hey Jones. I believe 6.5 is ideal for soil but between 6 and 7 in general

Thnx dabber im new to using nutes lol ive been using a los mix for soil growing up untill i started to give hempy a try now I gotta ph everything lol i can definitely say after i use up these nutes ill be switching up 2 a nute tht doesn't require u to adjust the ph at all. So would I be fine in using the same nute mix I do for my hempy girls but just adjust the ph again after i feed my hempy girls but b4 my soil girls??

 

[Tead]

I went with a coco perlite mix for root development. A lot of journals I read before I started didn't have a root system I admired. Just some spaghetti strings reaching to the res. Sure maybe that's all the plant "needs" and the results were by no means disappointing, but why settle when the limits can be pushed? I also don't grow by seedlings in hempy for the purpose of root development. I guess the way I see it is the more dense and horizontal I can get my root mass the more tendrils that's can grow into the res.

Granted I have no evidence of this and won't until my grow is complete. Nor do I have a pure perlite grow to compare to. But I can say this. Mixing in coco really lowers the cost of the set up. I know... haha. Hempy isn't expensive, but my 3 gallons aren't filled with 1 12 dollar bag of perlite alone and for 15 bucks I got a 20 or 30 gallon container of coco

I just had to jump in and say I like the way you think Dabber. That was part of my thinking when I started looking for pots that are lower and wider. I figured if I could get everything to spread out horizontally there's more roots heading for the reservoir. It makes it easier to get those bushes I seem to be fond of growing.

Just for the record... I'm seeing some pretty damn stunning roots in skinny hempy pots.

I dunno... I guess you could call it spaghetti, but that's some damn nice pasta in my world.

Does anyone check their runoff from perlite hempys? Is it important? I put my nutrient mix in at like 5.8 and it ends up coming out at around 6.1-6.2. Not certain if this is pertinent or if I'm worrying over a useless number. Using ANs 3 part pH perfect and some GO CalMg i had, btw. I can't afford for this grow to go south. My last dwc got some root issues and came in disappointingly low in weight. Im out of smokable material and have been keeping my pain and anxiety in check with Green Dragon. I miss smoking though. .

A bit of hempy wisdom experienced by many....
Chasing runoff numbers in passive hydro and especially hempy seems mostly a dysfunctional distraction. I know it seems like a wise thing, but it never seems to help anything.
I know... it makes little sense. I can only offer the words of experience here rather than anything based in logic.

For the record... I rarely even check my PH when mixing anymore. I give the same mix every time in Osmo, so there's no real need. I check it every couple of weeks just to verify, but I've yet to find I'm out of range.

 

[TheMadDabber]

Hey tead. This are some good looking roots! They just needs some Bolognese . But in all seriousness I wouldn't call those speghetti roots... I like your pvc! I wonder if it is what is helping your root mass? The log narrow shape is probably very effective for hempy . Just remeber all my claims are unsubstantiated, and more of me just thinking out loud. ...
I've just noticed roots grow down once In hempy and not out. That's why ideas advocating for getting them to spread horizontally first. But your pvc hempy totally negates that phenomenon because of its shape . Thabks for sharing! Hope your having. Wonderful weekend

✌

 

[Blazinjones]

hey guys every1s setups seem 2 b lookn pretty good and dam tead those are some nice roots u got there nice job oh yeah thanx again sue for letting me know to increase my cal-mag now that i have increased it to 5ml to a gallon of water and now look at my d.c. she is starting to get some green coming back to her so i think she will be alot better off now here she is notice the green starting to seep back into the leaves

and look what i got at the store today only a buck so i grabbed two of them to uppot two of my hempy clones lol love the little skeletons on them the second pic is to show how high i put the hole is that a good height i think i member sue saying she did like 2 inches maybe im wrong but i jus feel like i member hearing 2inches from soe where lol

and then here is my first clone uppotted. So far it was the only one ready to move out of the 2liter and i think she prolly could have went alil longer in there but still i figured i mite as well get my kali mist re-veg clone going on her way so i moved her to the bigger pot first here she is

 

[SweetSue]

Well done Jones. The chemovar is a hearty one, so I've no doubt she'll pull through.

Love the dancing skeletons. I place my holes around the 2" mark on all containers except the solo cup hempies. I put them lower. The trick is to find the depth that suits you and the pot you're using. Smaller reservoirs translates into more frequent watering, and placing the hole higher runs the risk of problems in the roots.

When you water you want the stream to exit the pot like it's peeing. Lol! I always see Calvin of Calvin and Hobbs in my mind when I do that. That active stream exiting the pot is what washes out any stale nutrient water still in the reservoir and keeps everything fresh and healthy in the root zone.

It sounds like you're having fun with hempy Jones. I'm glad you caught the hempy fever.

 

[Blazinjones]

oh yeah i caught it bad lol or is it good well since i wana keep the positive vibe going around here as much as possible we will jus call it good lol but yea i got 15 plants now going in just hempy i do notice the stems do seem to be on the thinner side wud maybe uppin the protekt which has silica in it be helpful or maybe getting some plain silica and just use that idk if they even have that i just assume they would since u can damn near find anything and everything nowadays if u just look alil lol but yea people let me know how ur stems seem to be doing in hempy is it maybe my setup or maybe just the strain idk but they seem to me anyway that if they had any kind of bud action it would just drop it to the floor lol but yea im definitely glad i gave hempy a try i love it its funand gives me sumthn to do for the days i dont have any garden work to do i get bored on those days haha

 

[SweetSue]

oh yeah i caught it bad lol or is it good well since i wana keep the positive vibe going around here as much as possible we will jus call it good lol but yea i got 15 plants now going in just hempy i do notice the stems do seem to be on the thinner side wud maybe uppin the protekt which has silica in it be helpful or maybe getting some plain silica and just use that idk if they even have that i just assume they would since u can damn near find anything and everything nowadays if u just look alil lol but yea people let me know how ur stems seem to be doing in hempy is it maybe my setup or maybe just the strain idk but they seem to me anyway that if they had any kind of bud action it would just drop it to the floor lol but yea im definitely glad i gave hempy a try i love it its funand gives me sumthn to do for the days i dont have any garden work to do i get bored on those days haha

Because we're feeding them aggressively at every watering there is a noticable tendency for whispy stems Jones. A few of mine in soil did the same thing, so I think it's more about proper training than anything else, although that ProTek might be a good idea.

I've been training with some focused topping, working for tighter nodes, which seems to be resulting in the firmer branches. We're all novices here except Tead. Maybe he'll stop and comment on his methods. When I get whispy branches I wire them to each other to stay upright, with varying success, I must add. I have a soil girl that went limp on my last night with her own whispy branches. That's my next garden chore today.

A hard hempy lesson

When I cleaned my perlite last time I neglected to be thorough enough in cleaning the bleach out, and last night I noticed the garden dying right in front of my eyes.

It took me a few minutes to realize what I was looking at, but then I went to work to salvage what I could. I'd planted four in that polluted perlite, the youngest being the newest CBD CRitical Cure clone, the base meds for both myself and my daughter. Thankfully she has the tiniest roots, so she was minimally impacted. She's since been transplanted into a clean pot with fresh perlite.

I have no doubt she'll bounce back without a hitch.

The other three weren't so lucky.

Carn 4.4 and Malawi 1.1 were residents in the sponsored grow tent. They're history.

They did each have a singular cutting that was useful. What luck, eh?

Carn 4.5 wasn't so lucky.

What a shame, huh? *sigh*. The positive slant is significant, and on many levels. I was overextended, and we all knew it, but my passion is so infectious we all hope for the best. The canna gods have seen to it that my gardening workload is more appropriate to my changing lifestyle. Lol!

It's notable to me that this happened at an moment of unprecedented abundance, both in the medicine reserves and in upcoming harvests. This won't impact me or my daughter in any negative way. It gets to go down as a learning experience and nothing else.

For or a woman who spent most of her life reacting to conflict with too much emotion, it felt empowering to discover I was finally able to move past the temptation to be disappointed and focus on more positive outcomes. Like the fact that this happened to me instead of one of you.

I managed to save the genetics of both, although in the back of my mind is this voice asking "Why girl?" I want to try my own Malawi, and if Chem Dawg can knock me out at the end of my energetic days I for sure want to keep it around. It's interesting that both of these chemovars have had a more than challenging time getting established in my garden.

Whoa! The breakfast brownie just kicked in full force! Almost lifted me off the floor.

Where was I? Lol! Damn! Those brownies are the best.

Oh yeah... the wrap up. I'll chop the ones I killed and get them out of the apartment today. Tead and I are discussing ways to clean without bleach, as well as ways to safely use bleach. I'll put together some guidelines and get them posted ASAP.

I'm thankful it was me that suffered this, and that it happened this early into the community experience. We can tackle this one head-on from the start and no one else need feel this pain. Yeah..... It hurts. Not the ego, but the knowledge that I hurt them when all they were trying to do was thrive for me. Ah well..... Live and learn.

 

[TheMadDabber]

I'm so sorry to hear this sue! And sending good vibes your way. It's awesome how you were able to see the silver lining in your hiccup. Mistakes are inevitable. Someone once told me if it's not a blessin' it's a lesson. And it's evident you are applying your this didn't happen to me, it happened for me principal

Please let us know what technique you devise for the future. Maybe h202? I have no clue to be honest, but I have no doubt you will see through this opportunity to develop a new and better way to reuse perlite.

Ok and BJ, blaze, Mr jones. That is a tough question to answer. I have 2 plants in hempy same strain, excuse me, "chemovar" (sue? I do that right) and one is a slow spindly lanky grower and one is the incredible hulk of cannabis plants. But I think tead was on to some great stuff with his pvc container. I'm beginning to think perlite hempy does its best in smaller containers. Just stick with it bud some times you gotta have faith

Hope everyone had an awesome weekend! I'll pop back by with pics in a little

✌

Dabber

 

[Tead]

They did each have a singular cutting that was useful. What luck, eh?

Perhaps one of the thinnest silver linings I've witnessed.

I'm beginning to think perlite hempy does its best in smaller containers.

Never really pondered that idea. Interesting.

 

[SweetSue]

Perhaps one of the thinnest silver linings I've witnessed.

I wake up every morning with a joyful whoop of "I'm ready to play!" This is the result of that mindset.

Never really pondered that idea. Interesting.

I've pondered this myself. The smaller containers create a different structure. The larger pots get longer limbs, but not necessarily better buds or that much greater yields, for all the space they take up, with the exception of the Thin Mint I just harvested. Maybe it's the way I grow, but I'm thinking of focusing on using smaller pots for a while. In my garden that would be the vinegar bottle size and the smaller black trash cans. Those plants have consistently been sturdy and easy to manage.

I'd like to try the next Thin Mint in one of the smaller trash cans to see what yield I'd get. The original I damaged so early on she never reached her potential.

 

[SweetSue]

All cleaned up

Thanks guys. My nature it to find the teachable moment. I just found powdery mildew in my Spa. Apparently, the universe is using me to do a series of teaching modules on how not to grow cannabis. Lol!

The hempy disaster is behind me. All that's left is to scrub the pots.

I decided it wasn't worth playing with that polluted perlite. I have another small bag from some I was cleaning last night that I can practice on to find and document cleaning technique, but the rest I can clean with H2O2. Anyone have any thoughts on how to dilute it for this job?

Gotta take care of some domestic issues and get some food into me. Later.

 

[TheMadDabber]

Oh it was more of an arbitrary through the h202.... but shoot certianly should work and be less harmful. Back in the day I would spray mildew or mold (Idk which but certianly one of the two) that grew on my clones starter cubes with straight from the bottle h202. Now, knowing what I do, I wouldn't do it again but I noticed no I'll effects....

My initial thought on this one sue is to dilute 3 parts water to 1 part water and do more of a "bath". Submerging all of the perlite. Set aside and let dry. Then proceed to treat it like I do fresh out of the bag. Perlite float. And serious flush through. Maybe even repeat the second step to be sure any harmful stiff is washed away. (But I've used that h202 ratio as feed with no I'll effects on a living plant, and I feel the second wash would be redundant and unnecesssary).

Blaze. Here are my 2 girls sprouted 1 day apart....


Lady hulk

Her sis.... not so much

BUT again I think its more of the fact that the latter girl has grown poorly from the get go.....

 

[Lazarus13]

Sue, i "wash" my hydroton from my dwc buckets with enzymatic pond cleaner i get from the pet store for like $5. Itll do like 500+ gallons of water, so it lasts me a good while. I soak them for a week or so with air stones and its always done the trick. My plan was to do the same with my perlite and see how it goes.

 

[SweetSue]

Tead mentioned cooking, which sounds like the best idea yet. Think I'll try that first.

Sorry you have one doing poorly. Crazy how bothersome that can be, isn't it?