HedoneSpirit's First Pre To Post Indoor Grow Journal: 600W & Veg Bulb

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

Right so I've tied down some branches. I wish I started early, now noted.
My PK with growing stem injuries, caused by my inexperienced looks goods and healthy. There is a chance I may loose some main branchs...

My CK with out such injuries is a little more concerning. With scars in a few to a lot of leave (see pics). I would describe the plant as also looking withered compared to the perky PK

Any opinions would be appreciated.

It's hard to tell what it is. Searching online I still can't work out if it's heat/humidity, general mutation stress, pests or nutes. Or multiple.. The pH and CF is good. The temps did go down to 15 Celsius one night.

 

[BluePhoric]

I dont know much about Hydro...

Are the roots healthy on both plants or does CK have a less healthy looking roots ?

I would not worry about the "scarred" leaves.

CK is darker than PK. Too much nutrients for her ?

BP

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

I dont know much about Hydro...

Are the roots healthy on both plants or does CK have a less healthy looking roots ?

I would not worry about the "scarred" leaves.

CK is darker than PK. Too much nutrients for her ?

BP

The roots of the CK are browner by comparison but I think that's due to developing more quicker.

I'm going to leave them for now as I've been tampering too much. I'll just adjust pH levels untill then. If in a week (or before) it's worsening I'll try reducing conc. I should add the PK does show the same scars but only a couple and the plant as a whole looks really healthy to me.

Could it be the cramp bunching of leafs? I noticed where they touch moisture pools. It may time to engage my second fan

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

The CK being darker I feel may be too high of nutrients as is growing slower than the PK with the same amount. When I adjust the pH I'll dilute the CF by 1 measurement.

Thank you BP!

Tha

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

So a day later, the plants have sprung back. In taking they're still healthy.
Resilient little bastards

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

Week 5 Wednesday

Both still growing well. Still surprised that the PK isn't showing the fact I snapped 2/3 main stems

The CK hasn't worsened yet apart from one dry and crispy fan leaf.... Don't know what that is about.
Here is the CKs worse looking leaf.

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

Looking at a diagnosis I'm putting my money on pH fluctuations. I keep my pH within 5.5 and 6.5 but I does rise to the limit within a couple of days. I'm not sure what in doing wrong.

The dark green of my CK may be nitrogen toxicity. I will test this by giving it 25% less, next feed.

 

[BluePhoric]

Looking at a diagnosis I'm putting my money on pH fluctuations. I keep my pH within 5.5 and 6.5 but I does rise to the limit within a couple of days. I'm not sure what in doing wrong.

The dark green of my CK may be nitrogen toxicity. I will test this by giving it 25% less, next feed.

Hey HS,

Is there any problem propagating (getting worse and affecting other leaves) on the plant ?

I agree with you that one plant is darker than the other. Personally, I LIKE dark green foliage. If there is no other sign of nute toxicity (clawed leaves, burnt tips, spotting...), do not worry too much about excess of nutes. But there's no problem in giving a little less nutes either if it makes you sleep better.

As for CK's dry crispy leaf (only one ?) do not worry if it's just one leaf, it could be anything. If it's not worsening and if not propagating to other leaves, it could be nothing.

What should make you worry, is if you see a bad TENDENCY affecting overall plant or propagating. One yellow spot appearing here or there for no reason is nothing to worry I.M.O.

PH : In hydro you check your PH everyday. The PH should not vary more than 1,0 per 24 hours (or +- 0.5 per 12 hours). If it takes several days before you need to re-adjust PH, it's probably ok, but I'm no pro in Hydro. You should read more on that matter.

BP

 

[BluePhoric]

Possible causes for 1 less healthy leaf...
-Sometimes, when leaves are touching each other and sweating (getting wet) because of too high humidity and lack of airflow... one leaf can get damaged after a while.
-Another reason could be dropping water (or nutes) on said leaf.

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

It's been about over a week since I've noticed the marks. Affecting about a few between them. Now there is probably 25% scared area.

I agree with you about the darker coloured plant. It's growing well. I'm sure there's a few veritable that I need to home in.
What I'm about to say may be a bit 'sudo science'. Since my humidity is always in the lower side the plant needs to attain water via the roots. I'm putting in a guess that the salts are also being transported. This is why I think It could be over loaded with nutes. I need to fact check this.

In the last couple of weeks I've found three. I've personally have taken that this is probably the plant defoliating its self from being too cramp

I need to find some good sources to learn more.

I'm going to start noting my pH so I can get a clearer Idea of its dance.

Thanks for your feedback.

Kind regards. HD

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

Week 5 Thursday morning.

Doing well

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

Ok suspicions met. I believe this is a sing for nute burn

I'll give it a dilution or a new solution.

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

Week 5 Friday

 

[BluePhoric]

Ok suspicions met. I believe this is a sing for nute burn
I'll give it a dilution or a new solution.

Could it be environmental ? Temp/Humidity/Wind/Heat ?

 

[Mr NiceGuy420]

Could it be environmental ? Temp/Humidity/Wind/Heat ?

I agreen all ppdsible. Hey, a great place to read, read and read some more.... especially wiyh deficiencies is growweedeasy.com... incase you havnt heard of. I am NOT a hydro specialist by any meand but recognised your plant issue fron a picture on "grow weed easy.com". Loojs similar to ph fluctuatiin exanples and root rot examples. If i were you i would consider cleaning and changing my reservoir tank with properly ph'd water and nutrition. One thing i fo kbiw abiut hydro is that your reservoir sucess = plant sucess. I hope this helps.

Check these two out on that website then test both (or whichever you think makes sense) on ur plants to see if it corrects??

 

[Mr NiceGuy420]

Whatever it is it's not advance. So nip it in the butt! Good luck mate!

 

[Mr NiceGuy420]

In my experiences, nute burn effect tips only more typically ( unless its advanced nute burn... which urs is not). .. and you would see it over many more leaves. Just a thought

 

[BluePhoric]

Did you mention the roots on CK were turning brown, compared to PK ? That could indicate root rot...

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

Did you mention the roots on CK were turning brown, compared to PK ? That could indicate root rot...

I think the roots are doing well, I'll snap a picture later.

I'll check the temp and RH hi/lo see what's happening. I'm sure the temp is ok but the humidity does, sometimes, rise 30% (70%) at night.

 

[Phalangeal_Worrior]

I agreen all ppdsible. Hey, a great place to read, read and read some more.... especially wiyh deficiencies is growweedeasy.com... incase you havnt heard of. I am NOT a hydro specialist by any meand but recognised your plant issue fron a picture on "grow weed easy.com". Loojs similar to ph fluctuatiin exanples and root rot examples. If i were you i would consider cleaning and changing my reservoir tank with properly ph'd water and nutrition. One thing i fo kbiw abiut hydro is that your reservoir sucess = plant sucess. I hope this helps.

Check these two out on that website then test both (or whichever you think makes sense) on ur plants to see if it corrects??

Ah yes I was using this site and another. The picture for pH fluctuations comes in gold but I'm testing the pH and the rise is as expected.
Maybe a possible cause is me bringing the pH from 6.3 back down to 5.5 all at once.

With the plant with the burning tips that recently formed. I was originally concerned that is was showing signs of N2 toxicity (dark droopy leave).

Summing it up I think there are a few factors that could be adjusted. Not to mention some pure amateur stalk snapping 8)