As was pointed out - yours is one of the few that I consider a successful LED grow. So please, sf, don't think I'm picking on you. Quite the contrary. Gonna use your numbers because I respect them.
The rest of this post is not directed to sf, but to everyone. I think what's got me concerned are the two things Doc and ledtester pointed out. So I'm gonna do a little math using basic circumstances. And I'll use sf's numbers for comparison. A little bigger. A 6 plant medical grow. (No offense, sf, but what you smoke in a month would last me about a week). We'll assume the medium, pots, and nutes and all other costs not related to the lights are the same:
This is from the HGL site, describing the 126 Penetrator:
Maximum Coverage Area of 24" x 36" @ 12" above your canopy, with a Recommended Lighting Area of 18" x 30"
I have a couple of different ways to light that area - that's even a little smaller than my smallest, but pretty damn close - but for flowering, for a very good yield one could use a 600HPS. A ducted 600 + a fan would be about the cost of the one 126 Penetrator. Which sells for $475 from their site. So that seems to me to be a fair starting point for a comparison.
Then we have all the things we all know about that makes the LED more efficient over time - lower electricity for the lamp, lower heat, less AC, etc... all that equates to : the electricity bills would be much lower for the LED setup. For me I would likely save about $50 a month. And every Year you'd have to spend $ on another bulb for HID theoretically.
BUT at the end of 8 weeks at even just .5 g/w the HID will deliver at least 300g dried almost guaranteed. And that is a VERY conservative grow. If SS did it he would get 450+ from that area almost guaranteed. McBudz is getting a POUND a month from two 6x6 areas.
6 harvests a year (1 every 8 weeks perpetual) = 1800g/yr
Now lets use $15/g as a number for a value for that smoke. If I had to go to a dispensary and buy it. Again - conservative I believe for good smoke.
Using our conservative .5 g/w: 1800g x $15 = $27K worth of meds. / yr.
Factor in the cost of the replacement bulb: $100
And the difference in the electricity / month: 12 x $50 = $600
Value of HID Meds $26,300
Now we do the same with the LEDs:
Using sfhaze's numbers of a solid 1.0 g/w. If someone can show me higher we'll use that. But I'm using a best-case scenario for the LEDs and an avg for the HIDs so seems fair.
Using that 126 Penetrator that equates to 126g of meds per grow in the same area.
6 Grows/ Yr = 6 x 126g = 1008g of Meds/yr = $15,120
We don't subtract anything cause the LEDs are more efficient.
Value of LED Meds: $15,120
$26,300
- $15,120
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$11,180 More meds from the HID.
And this is assuming that the site is not over hyping the square footage coverable by the LED light. A 600 could actually easily cover more than that area, I leave it to you led folks to let us know whether you think their 126 really could cover 2'x3' well.
So, as far as I'm concerned, as far as g/w - in order for the LED to really provide the same amount of meds for the same price - it would need to be slamming out a CONSISTENT 2g/w AT LEAST! If you matched best case scenario against best case - the LED would need to crank out over 3g/w to compete.
SS - I hope you don't mind my putting all this stuff about HIDs in your beautiful thread. I guess I have just sorta written off the final conclusion as far as a comparison of HSS vs HGL this time around. There's really no doubt about which light performed better. So I was trying to extrapolate from your very well documented numbers and grow to a broader comparison. As I am going to be spending some serious $ on new lights in the near future, and I'm such the technogeek - I have really been hoping that LEDs would be my answer. Your grow has really helped me nail down the numbers for myself as well as I could possibly have hoped without actually having the LEDs to test.
EDIT: I was just re-reading their site - and they compare their 345 to a 600 in terms of watts but the growing area is only 30"x30". I guess because of their flat design it gets funky figuring out optimal # of plants. So running those numbers they come out about the same as a 600HPS (again assuming you use .5 for HPS and 1.0 for LED ) but the cost of the initial light offsets any power savings or bulb the first year.
The numbers on their site simply don't make sense.
126 : Maximum Coverage Area of 24" x 36" @ 12" above your canopy, with a Recommended Lighting Area of 18" x 30"
345: Maximum Coverage Area of 36" x 36" @ 12" above your canopy, with a Recommended Lighting Area of 30" x 30"
almost 3x the wattage and only 30% more sf
Its like they decided what the numbers needed to be, then used those numbers for advertising.