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So true...I spent this past weekend watching my bobber not move.
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So true...I spent this past weekend watching my bobber not move.
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I appear to have it capped at a max of 85F in there now after rearranging lights and the duct fan. This is good enough for today, but I need to get it down more. So I was looking around to see where those two vents are in the basement...as it turns out there is only one, but it would be a straight (but long) shot from there to the bloom room if I wanted to buy some more ducting and go that route.
But, instead I'm going with the solution that has been right under (well, above) my nose this whole time. Since my basement is unfinished and has no ceilings, all over there are exposed ducts running to the main floor vents. Two of those vents go to my kitchen that's right above the bloom room, and one of them has a joint right there in the room where my ladies are suffering. It means I'll have to do with less AC than usual in the kitchen, but that doesn't concern me in the slightest...I really don't need two vents there. It also means I am going to need to keep the AC running more, but that's okay because it's a bill looming in the distance I can pretend doesn't exist instead of an immediate expense that will drain my bank account today.
So, I'll be disassembling a duct joint shortly.
But, instead I'm going with the solution that has been right under (well, above) my nose this whole time. Since my basement is unfinished and has no ceilings, all over there are exposed ducts running to the main floor vents. Two of those vents go to my kitchen that's right above the bloom room, and one of them has a joint right there in the room where my ladies are suffering. It means I'll have to do with less AC than usual in the kitchen, but that doesn't concern me in the slightest...I really don't need two vents there. It also means I am going to need to keep the AC running more, but that's okay because it's a bill looming in the distance I can pretend doesn't exist instead of an immediate expense that will drain my bank account today.
So, I'll be disassembling a duct joint shortly.
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I appear to have it capped at a max of 85F in there now after rearranging lights and the duct fan. This is good enough for today, but I need to get it down more. So I was looking around to see where those two vents are in the basement...as it turns out there is only one, but it would be a straight (but long) shot from there to the bloom room if I wanted to buy some more ducting and go that route.
But, instead I'm going with the solution that has been right under (well, above) my nose this whole time. Since my basement is unfinished and has no ceilings, all over there are exposed ducts running to the main floor vents. Two of those vents go to my kitchen that's right above the bloom room, and one of them has a joint right there in the room where my ladies are suffering. It means I'll have to do with less AC than usual in the kitchen, but that doesn't concern me in the slightest...I really don't need two vents there. It also means I am going to need to keep the AC running more, but that's okay because it's a bill looming in the distance I can pretend doesn't exist instead of an immediate expense that will drain my bank account today.
So, I'll be disassembling a duct joint shortly.
Great find GG! Also, if your feeling real handy, home depot has those fittings where it is a fork but a right angle, T fitting I think they are called that way you can get some kitchen AC too! Soon to be a cool grow room, gj GG
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Good tip, thanks! I could definitely manage putting that together. I hadn't even thought about anything past disconnecting it yet. It'll be a good idea to set it up before winter at least...winters here are more brutal than summers and I am going to want both kitchen vents working then.
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GG! Glad that things are looking up for you. I will not pretend to know what's really going on with your plants, but looking at the picture that you posted last night but, it does look more like a deficiency of some sort to me than light or heat damage.
This photo is the example of manganese deficiency from Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial
In the problem solver they say the following: "...On the top of the leaves, brown spots can appear. While the severe areas of the leaves turn brown and wither. Parts Affected by a Manganese deficiency are: Young leaves."
They also describe ways to resolve a manganese def. but Please don't take my word for it! I'm more of a newbie than you are! But, I thought it was worth tossing in my 2 cents worth. Feel free to toss it right out again!
This photo is the example of manganese deficiency from Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial
In the problem solver they say the following: "...On the top of the leaves, brown spots can appear. While the severe areas of the leaves turn brown and wither. Parts Affected by a Manganese deficiency are: Young leaves."
They also describe ways to resolve a manganese def. but Please don't take my word for it! I'm more of a newbie than you are! But, I thought it was worth tossing in my 2 cents worth. Feel free to toss it right out again!
Leaves are curing rather more up than down. Cal-mag would not be a bad way to trouble shoot it and see if she gets better. There are plenty other fixes. Anyhow I am going to PM the Dropbox account info. Just be sure to scan it before you copy any files. They are all PDF files so DL PDF reader 9 from adobe if you dont have it and your good to go.
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it does look more like a deficiency of some sort to me than light or heat damage.
This photo is the example of manganese deficiency from Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial
Thanks GMH. I've looked through that page so many times, and according to it I've got an everything deficiency...just about every pic shows something I have somewhere on my plants. It's confusing.
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Told ya, your golden now! Grats
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Thanks...I'm super stoked about having a properly air cooled grow room now. Can't wait for 9:00am to get here so I can see what the overnight temps look like. I've got my thermostat set at a constant 74 upstairs but it's programmable so if I need to change it based on light times or whatever, I can. Also, I set the HVAC fan setting to "on" rather than "auto", which keeps air flowing through the vents at all times, not just when the AC is running. It's really helping the humidity drop too, so my dehumidifier doesn't have to work as hard.
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Same thing I do just keep it running and eventually your grow area is close to thermostat temp be interested to see what it was over night!
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You have the opposite problem I have have. I live in a semi arid area, and unless it's raining, the RH stays below 25 percent. I have my girls in my walk in closet, which also houses my hot water heater. I know that puts out some moisture, and I also have a bowl of water in there just in case it get's too dry. Along with my LAME assed aqua globes. I just don't want the girls to get all wilty because they are too dry.
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The temps still got a bit too high last night, but I got a bigger overnight drop. I think the high was 86 and the low was 72. I made some more adjustments today, so we'll see how tonight goes. It was 80 when I checked a couple hours ago. I'd like to get the AC vent closer to the plants so that I maybe don't need to keep the rest of my house in the low 70s, but I'm still trying to figure out if it's possible to get the the part I disconnected (that goes up to the kitchen) out of the way without completely removing it. Generally though, I'm pleased.
I was surprised that the ladies were thirsty again already today; this is the first time they've ever needed to be watered after only two days. I've been using GH Bloom at half the recommended strength (about 1.5 tsp/gal), and last time I started adding 1TBSP molasses/gal, and today I picked up some Cal-Mag Plus (the "Plus" is iron...it was the only cal-mag supplement the grow store had) and added it at the lowest listed recommendation. I've got some GH Micro that I haven't been using, and it occurred to me that perhaps I should, but I'm not doing anything until I see how they react to the cal-mag.
I've had to trim off a lot of damaged/dying/useless leaves, although there is plenty of ugly shit still on the plants. One word you would never use to describe these plants is "bushy", which is going to change with their babies that are vegging next door.
But, there are also some beautiful buds starting to swell up, and some are starting to get just a bit of that crystal goodness. I bent the hell out of the canopy today...it's working better than tying things at this point. Using these plants to support one another is going to come back and bite me in the ass when it's time to flush them. The tops are so interconnected that it would be a nightmare to get the plants untangled and out of the room...not to mention getting them back in and rearranged. But, in doing this I've got the whole canopy well lit (10-12" from HPS with 8 CFLs helping out on the sides) and my flowers fairly evenly distributed across a sea that has only gentle waves.
So about those little girls vegging next door...the ones I transplanted yesterday are quite happy! They are shooting up already; I'm going to need to read up on topping before too long. I am going to do another 4 tomorrow and leave the two idiots in their beer cups awhile longer. I only need the 8 plants for my next set anyway. I'm going to need to switch back to my larger rack with this transplant. I'll also be turning the 3 single-bulb fixtures I have in there now to 2-bulb fixtures. I wanted to make 2 3-bulb fixtures, but Home Depot didn't have the thingies. I'll have 6 23W CFLs covering 3 sq ft, which I think is good for now. I'm sure that getting temps regulated with the change in space and lights will be another learning adventure.
I have no idea why my "good" camera takes crappier pictures (the close-ups at least) than what I normally use (BlackBerry), but here ya go:
I was surprised that the ladies were thirsty again already today; this is the first time they've ever needed to be watered after only two days. I've been using GH Bloom at half the recommended strength (about 1.5 tsp/gal), and last time I started adding 1TBSP molasses/gal, and today I picked up some Cal-Mag Plus (the "Plus" is iron...it was the only cal-mag supplement the grow store had) and added it at the lowest listed recommendation. I've got some GH Micro that I haven't been using, and it occurred to me that perhaps I should, but I'm not doing anything until I see how they react to the cal-mag.
I've had to trim off a lot of damaged/dying/useless leaves, although there is plenty of ugly shit still on the plants. One word you would never use to describe these plants is "bushy", which is going to change with their babies that are vegging next door.
But, there are also some beautiful buds starting to swell up, and some are starting to get just a bit of that crystal goodness. I bent the hell out of the canopy today...it's working better than tying things at this point. Using these plants to support one another is going to come back and bite me in the ass when it's time to flush them. The tops are so interconnected that it would be a nightmare to get the plants untangled and out of the room...not to mention getting them back in and rearranged. But, in doing this I've got the whole canopy well lit (10-12" from HPS with 8 CFLs helping out on the sides) and my flowers fairly evenly distributed across a sea that has only gentle waves.
So about those little girls vegging next door...the ones I transplanted yesterday are quite happy! They are shooting up already; I'm going to need to read up on topping before too long. I am going to do another 4 tomorrow and leave the two idiots in their beer cups awhile longer. I only need the 8 plants for my next set anyway. I'm going to need to switch back to my larger rack with this transplant. I'll also be turning the 3 single-bulb fixtures I have in there now to 2-bulb fixtures. I wanted to make 2 3-bulb fixtures, but Home Depot didn't have the thingies. I'll have 6 23W CFLs covering 3 sq ft, which I think is good for now. I'm sure that getting temps regulated with the change in space and lights will be another learning adventure.
I have no idea why my "good" camera takes crappier pictures (the close-ups at least) than what I normally use (BlackBerry), but here ya go:
GrownManHollr
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Hey GG!
Sounds like you're doing the right things to me. I know the CalMag+ helped my little organisms.
Love seeing that bud action!
Sounds like you're doing the right things to me. I know the CalMag+ helped my little organisms.
Love seeing that bud action!
SanibelGreen
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That Calmag will help, just gonna keep need more water, and did you check out that T bracket? with that you could run the duct anywhere you want!
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Not yet; maybe I'll hit up Home Depot again today if I have time after transplanting and getting the veg rack/lights re-done. The problem is that there is almost no room to squeeze anything in where I removed the clamp to disconnect. Apparently, people install ducting intending it to be permanent. ;-)
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Here are the little ones under the new lights. Not sure how I'm going to cover the rack yet. I transplanted 4 more and FIMed the ones I transplanted two days ago. These pics are pre-FIM, though...I'll try to snag some post-FIM shots later.
The big ladies are happy today, and being left alone.
The big ladies are happy today, and being left alone.
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