Growchy's Purple Series - Purpletually Purple

heres the m2 pics lol!
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From what I got from Ethos post the R1 stands for reversed 1. He made it seem different from s1 in that with an s1 you will typically take 2 clones from a mother plant and reverse one and hit the other with the pollen. With an R1 you grow out seeds until you find two that are very similar and carry the traits you are looking for. you then reverse one of them and hit the other with the pollen. He made it seem like by doing this it is really no different than breeding a male and female other than the fact that you only have X chromosomes with no Y.
 
Yeah I was kind of pissed I had to look at those amazing pictures twice..... bahahaha no it's cool brother, very lovely looking lady you've got there!

I see what you mean, it's a good way to breed for fem seeds without possibly losing genetics and weakening the strain. That will def be something I try to remember to do in my own breeding programs. I'm super excited to pollinate this Grape Kush with the fem NukeHead pollen. I'm def going to add those to the list of purple strains I'm growing in this journal. I just hope it's purple lol I may have to do a separate journal for all the crosses we make here.
 
GrowchyzGardenOfGreen said:
Yeah I was kind of pissed I had to look at those amazing pictures twice..... bahahaha no it’s cool brother, very lovely looking lady you’ve got there!

I see what you mean, it’s a good way to breed for fem seeds without possibly losing genetics and weakening the strain. That will def be something I try to remember to do in my own breeding programs. I’m super excited to pollinate this Grape Kush with the fem NukeHead pollen. I’m def going to add those to the list of purple strains I’m growing in this journal. I just hope it’s purple lol I may have to do a separate journal for all the crosses we make here.
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Growchy Grows Grapeheads lol. That will be a nice way to kick off another journal. I have seriously considered keeping one of these males I get and collecting the pollen to hit things with at a later date but I just dont have a spot to do it. I was able to get Annunaki's last pack of Purple Persuasion and ended up with a decent male out of the two seeds I popped. i would not mind making an F2 version. I would like a better male than what I had. I also think my female is the one green pheno out of the 4 that show up. Maybe later on I will be able to make it happen.
 
TheGreenYeti said:
From what I got from Ethos post the R1 stands for reversed 1. He made it seem different from s1 in that with an s1 you will typically take 2 clones from a mother plant and reverse one and hit the other with the pollen. With an R1 you grow out seeds until you find two that are very similar and carry the traits you are looking for. you then reverse one of them and hit the other with the pollen. He made it seem like by doing this it is really no different than breeding a male and female other than the fact that you only have X chromosomes with no Y.
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I wonder the difference in offspring by doing this vs doing a BX4. I am going to have to do some additional research on it.
 
Van Stank said:
I wonder the difference in offspring by doing this vs doing a BX4. I am going to have to do some additional research on it.
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I am not sure what the difference will be but it seemed like he thought you would have a better chance of guessing what the offspring would end up like and would have a better chance of making a truly stable strain. He mentioned that with males you never know what they are going to add to the breeding, you are just guessing at best. If you can get two nearly identical females you will have much more success with breeding for the traits you are looking for so long as both parents already have them.
 
TheGreenYeti said:
I am not sure what the difference will be but it seemed like he thought you would have a better chance of guessing what the offspring would end up like and would have a better chance of making a truly stable strain. He mentioned that with males you never know what they are going to add to the breeding, you are just guessing at best. If you can get two nearly identical females you will have much more success with breeding for the traits you are looking for so long as both parents already have them.
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I don't disagree with that. I just have the mindset that nothing is better than using male and female chromosomes together. I agree that he can probably control the results easier with his method, but I am skeptical that it has more potential than male to female breeding. The biggest issue I see with breeders that use males and females is that they don't stabilize enough to refine what the offspring will produce.
 
The most valuable plants out there are males that breeders keep locked down. Males can pass on traits to their female offspring that their mothers rarely pass on.
 
TheGreenYeti said:
I am not sure what the difference will be but it seemed like he thought you would have a better chance of guessing what the offspring would end up like and would have a better chance of making a truly stable strain. He mentioned that with males you never know what they are going to add to the breeding, you are just guessing at best. If you can get two nearly identical females you will have much more success with breeding for the traits you are looking for so long as both parents already have them.
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I was aware that they did this in breeding an IBL but I guess it's a little different when you reverse one to pollinate the other. So it could be considered an Fwhatever feminized, just not selfed, or R1 to signify the first time it was hit with reversed fem pollen. The difference is the sex, as in reg or fem. now I know! Thanks!
 
GrowchyzGardenOfGreen said:
I was aware that they did this in breeding an IBL but I guess it’s a little different when you reverse one to pollinate the other. So it could be considered an Fwhatever feminized, just not selfed, or R1 to signify the first time it was hit with reversed fem pollen. The difference is the sex, as in reg or fem. now I know! Thanks!
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You're welcome bud. It was the first time I had come across it when I read his break down. He feels it is the best way to breed. I see the benefits of having a male do the work, but Ethos' thought process seems solid. I feel at this point there are a lot of breeders that are doing things well and them experimenting with different breeding practices will only benefit us in the end.
 
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Instead of passing half the chromies down when selfed, you're adding half the chromies from a different plant and this can ensure more of the intended genes make it through. I can see it working better and worse, but when you're pheno hunting the final product, you get an idea of the level of success it had. I will most definitely try this. I'm doing it with different IbLs actually, reversing the Nuke and pollinating the GK. A male would be better, but we will see what we come out with this way. Straight to fem seeds, I like it .
 
GrowchyzGardenOfGreen said:
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Instead of passing half the chromies down when selfed, you’re adding half the chromies from a different plant and this can ensure more of the intended genes make it through. I can see it working better and worse, but when you’re pheno hunting the final product, you get an idea of the level of success it had. I will most definitely try this. I’m doing it with different IbLs actually, reversing the Nuke and pollinating the GK. A male would be better, but we will see what we come out with this way. Straight to fem seeds, I like it .
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sounds interesting to me going to be a good show ill be around to watch your progress good luck with your venture,I'm going to be trying my hand in making some seeds at some point here in the not to distant future!
 
That's like the Bedroom Cookies are GSC xtrm x Afghan, both females. The seeds I got initially were first generation so this second generation coming up will be very interesting. I think I'll have to out cross at some point. Not sure if I should use a male from another strain or a female.
 
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